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So already an arguable definition! "Apex" is probably most often used to mean the clipping point, as this definition currently dscribes - but it is also sometimes used to mean the actual apex of the trajectory. -- Ian Dalziel ( talk) 12:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
A good definition of this term would be handy. For the moment good wording is escaping me. -- Falcadore ( talk) 03:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I brought this up some time ago at the parade lap talk page, but forgot about it so since there's a few sets of eyes here at the moment I'll ask again. In F1 at least, the parade lap is (formally) referred to as the formation lap, and only informally by some fans as the parade lap. The official parade lap in F1 involves the drivers going around the track on the back of a float in the morning before the race. Just wanted to get an opinion on the usage in other forms of motorsport (particularly NASCAR/IRL) and if there's any objections to changing it to the proper name with perhaps a "see Formation Lap" under the parade heading. AlexJ ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Now my focus is primarily on F1 articles, so I won't be able to contribute is a way that's comprehensive in motor-sporting perspective. But I'd still like to make suggestions as to what should be added to the list, again mostly from F1 jargon. To start off, " KERS" and "practice session". I'll try and come back to make more suggestions. Leave Sleaves 22:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that steward would be a good idea, and possibly Clerk of the Course and Race Director (if the latter isn't F1-specific).-- Diniz (talk) 14:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, good idea this page. Well done on getting it started. However, there isn't much point in defining specialist terminology in terms of more specialist terminology. You need to guard against this . If you describe "shutting the door" as being when a driver "takes an early apex" that needs you then to explain the term "takes an early apex". Try keeping definitions simple and in plain English. Otherwise, keep up the good work, and don't forget to cite your definitions... otherwise this is OR. Pyrop e 15:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
This page is taking shape pretty well! One thing I've noticed is that we have a bit of a mix of US / British English. We should probably try to stick to one or the other for consistency, and it should obviously be British English. Hahaha, no, I'm kidding... personally I have no real preference either way and hopefully we can sort it out easily enough :o) Bretonbanquet ( talk) 16:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I started it with US English, writing about "tires". It probably doesn't really matter, but I'm happy to swallow my pride do as the Americans do. Aptery gial 23:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.f1technical.net/glossary/ -- Sporti ( talk) 07:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to remove spare car. Firstly, because its inaccurate. Spare cars are not always prepared in the event of the prime car is damaged. Sometimes the set-up is different and they are trying different things. Secondly, its too obvious. It's not terminology at all. Spare car does not need further explanation beyond the original meaning of the two words and does not gain additional context in a motorsport environment. T car however I would support. -- Falcadore ( talk) 22:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Spare car should stay - I quickly added a definition for use on the 1995 European Grand Prix article. It needs to be adjusted, I agree, but it definitely shouldn't go. There isn't an article on it... so a short explanation should fit in here. D.M.N. ( talk) 16:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
official is the same as steward, not marshal - in my experience, having held some positions, official is a catch-all term covering marshals (senior, flag, fire, crowd & recovery), stewards, scruitineers (techinical inspectors), timekeepers, and P/A announcers/commentators. Stewards, specifically administrate/adjudicate/arbitrate issues specifically involved in the rules governing the racing and the racers. -- Falcadore ( talk) 03:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Fastest Lap- too obvious or worthy of inclusion? - The fastest time in which a lap was completed by a driver during a race. Sometimes rewarded with bonus championship points. Petera93 ( talk) 17:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Again I feel the need to bring up certain entries on this article that shouldn't be there. I am not disputing whether these entries are used in motorsport, just that they are terminology. The purpose of this page is to list anything word or groups of words that do not have obvious meaning and need to be explained to better understand their use. Plain languuage words really do not belong here because their meaning does not need additional explanation. Some examples:
Thoughts? -- Falcadore ( talk) 07:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
G-force accelerator accelerometer horsepower break horsepower cadence braking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.65.94 ( talk) 10:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC) torque dyno tachometer shiftlight headers straight exhaust
Thanks
Cdvrooster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdvrooster ( talk • contribs) 03:00, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Front wheels of a dragster which they are very narrow (pizza cutter look) compared to what would normally be installed. Very obvious on alcohol burners but most common on door slammers since it looks strange under a bodyshell. 115.70.80.179 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Why "See also cross-channel ferry." - and the link isn't even general, but to one ship in particular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.149.182.190 ( talk) 15:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Does "deg" (short for "tyre degradation") deserve a mention here? -- Adamanttt ( talk) 15:19, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
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So already an arguable definition! "Apex" is probably most often used to mean the clipping point, as this definition currently dscribes - but it is also sometimes used to mean the actual apex of the trajectory. -- Ian Dalziel ( talk) 12:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
A good definition of this term would be handy. For the moment good wording is escaping me. -- Falcadore ( talk) 03:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I brought this up some time ago at the parade lap talk page, but forgot about it so since there's a few sets of eyes here at the moment I'll ask again. In F1 at least, the parade lap is (formally) referred to as the formation lap, and only informally by some fans as the parade lap. The official parade lap in F1 involves the drivers going around the track on the back of a float in the morning before the race. Just wanted to get an opinion on the usage in other forms of motorsport (particularly NASCAR/IRL) and if there's any objections to changing it to the proper name with perhaps a "see Formation Lap" under the parade heading. AlexJ ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Now my focus is primarily on F1 articles, so I won't be able to contribute is a way that's comprehensive in motor-sporting perspective. But I'd still like to make suggestions as to what should be added to the list, again mostly from F1 jargon. To start off, " KERS" and "practice session". I'll try and come back to make more suggestions. Leave Sleaves 22:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that steward would be a good idea, and possibly Clerk of the Course and Race Director (if the latter isn't F1-specific).-- Diniz (talk) 14:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, good idea this page. Well done on getting it started. However, there isn't much point in defining specialist terminology in terms of more specialist terminology. You need to guard against this . If you describe "shutting the door" as being when a driver "takes an early apex" that needs you then to explain the term "takes an early apex". Try keeping definitions simple and in plain English. Otherwise, keep up the good work, and don't forget to cite your definitions... otherwise this is OR. Pyrop e 15:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
This page is taking shape pretty well! One thing I've noticed is that we have a bit of a mix of US / British English. We should probably try to stick to one or the other for consistency, and it should obviously be British English. Hahaha, no, I'm kidding... personally I have no real preference either way and hopefully we can sort it out easily enough :o) Bretonbanquet ( talk) 16:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I started it with US English, writing about "tires". It probably doesn't really matter, but I'm happy to swallow my pride do as the Americans do. Aptery gial 23:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
http://www.f1technical.net/glossary/ -- Sporti ( talk) 07:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to remove spare car. Firstly, because its inaccurate. Spare cars are not always prepared in the event of the prime car is damaged. Sometimes the set-up is different and they are trying different things. Secondly, its too obvious. It's not terminology at all. Spare car does not need further explanation beyond the original meaning of the two words and does not gain additional context in a motorsport environment. T car however I would support. -- Falcadore ( talk) 22:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Spare car should stay - I quickly added a definition for use on the 1995 European Grand Prix article. It needs to be adjusted, I agree, but it definitely shouldn't go. There isn't an article on it... so a short explanation should fit in here. D.M.N. ( talk) 16:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
official is the same as steward, not marshal - in my experience, having held some positions, official is a catch-all term covering marshals (senior, flag, fire, crowd & recovery), stewards, scruitineers (techinical inspectors), timekeepers, and P/A announcers/commentators. Stewards, specifically administrate/adjudicate/arbitrate issues specifically involved in the rules governing the racing and the racers. -- Falcadore ( talk) 03:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Fastest Lap- too obvious or worthy of inclusion? - The fastest time in which a lap was completed by a driver during a race. Sometimes rewarded with bonus championship points. Petera93 ( talk) 17:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Again I feel the need to bring up certain entries on this article that shouldn't be there. I am not disputing whether these entries are used in motorsport, just that they are terminology. The purpose of this page is to list anything word or groups of words that do not have obvious meaning and need to be explained to better understand their use. Plain languuage words really do not belong here because their meaning does not need additional explanation. Some examples:
Thoughts? -- Falcadore ( talk) 07:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
G-force accelerator accelerometer horsepower break horsepower cadence braking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.65.94 ( talk) 10:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC) torque dyno tachometer shiftlight headers straight exhaust
Thanks
Cdvrooster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdvrooster ( talk • contribs) 03:00, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Front wheels of a dragster which they are very narrow (pizza cutter look) compared to what would normally be installed. Very obvious on alcohol burners but most common on door slammers since it looks strange under a bodyshell. 115.70.80.179 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Why "See also cross-channel ferry." - and the link isn't even general, but to one ship in particular. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.149.182.190 ( talk) 15:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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Does "deg" (short for "tyre degradation") deserve a mention here? -- Adamanttt ( talk) 15:19, 15 October 2019 (UTC)