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The article notes: "He also recalled reading an article that listed all the happenings in Yishun — murders, cat killings and policemen attacked with a stun gun — and thought it was, perhaps, the most dangerous place in Singapore." The article later notes, "He also described Yishun as a cosy town that is home to “nice people and cute cats”."
Created by Cunard ( talk). Self-nominated at 07:02, 29 June 2021 (UTC).
The article notes: "Others who have investigated Yishun's 'weird and sometimes dangerous' reputation, like Japanese YouTuber Ghib Ojisan have come to less exciting conclusions. 'I discovered that it is just a nice neighbourhood,' said Ojisan, who started making videos about Yishun last year."
The article notes: "It’s a minor mystery that Singapore-based Japanese vlogger Ghib Ojisan recently tried to find out for himself while wandering the empty walkways of People's Park Centre to look for a barbershop. ... It’s an odd and unknown request for the hairdresser, but Ojisan was insistent about his preferred cut, even as the situation grew real awkward."
reopening for now, since the article is at AFD. See
WT:DYK. —
Amakuru (
talk) 15:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
I am reverting this 18 July 2021 edit from HiloIOK (which was reinstated by Ekuftle here) per the policy WP:BLPSOURCES, which says:
Wikipedia's sourcing policy, Verifiability, says that all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation; material not meeting this standard may be removed. This policy extends that principle, adding that contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion. This applies whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable and whether it is in a biography or in some other article.
The edits introduce incorrect information and information not supported by reliable sources:
His video received a large amount of media attention and led to a large increase in YouTube subscribers from outside Japan, which had until then been his primary audience.to
His video received a large amount of media attention and led to a large increase in YouTube subscribers from outside Japan, which had until then been his primary audience who were enthusiasts about Singapore.No reliable sources say that his YouTube subscribers before he received a large amount of attention had previously been "enthusiasts about Singapore". Instead, this article from Kyodo News's NNA Japan supports the previous text; it says, "It became a hot topic on the net news, and the number of viewers in Singapore, Malaysia, and the United States increased at a stretch. Currently, the number of subscribers is over 150,000. As the number of overseas viewers increased, the percentage of Japanese people fell to about 30%." It is a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability to make this change.
Despite Singapore's high cost of living, he remained in the country for two months to see her.was changed to
Despite his tight budget and Singapore being a relatively affluent place for a backpacking style of travel, he remained in the country for two months to be with her.The sentence is sourced to this article, which says: "And turns out, Ghib Ojisan met his wife, a Singaporean girl, back then when he was doing a travel vlog here. He then went on to stay here for two months, even though backpacking in Singapore was pretty expensive." Even though the article says he was backpacking, the article does not say that he had "tight budget", so it violates Wikipedia:No original research to add that.
The couple chose to remain in Singapore.was changed to
When deciding between either living in Japan or Singapore, the couple chose to remain in Singapore after weighing in both the pros and cons of both countries.The sentence is sourced to this article, which does not say that they were deciding between Japan and Singapore. The article does not say they were "weighing in both the pros and cons of both countries" so it is a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability to add this.
Cunard ( talk) 19:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
"Ojisan" is Japanese for "uncle", and "Ghib Ojisan" (Uncle Ghib) is clearly a pen name. If their real name is unknown, the article should refer to them as "Ghib". Jpatokal ( talk) 09:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by
Schwede66 (
talk) 07:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
The article notes: "He also recalled reading an article that listed all the happenings in Yishun — murders, cat killings and policemen attacked with a stun gun — and thought it was, perhaps, the most dangerous place in Singapore." The article later notes, "He also described Yishun as a cosy town that is home to “nice people and cute cats”."
Created by Cunard ( talk). Self-nominated at 07:02, 29 June 2021 (UTC).
The article notes: "Others who have investigated Yishun's 'weird and sometimes dangerous' reputation, like Japanese YouTuber Ghib Ojisan have come to less exciting conclusions. 'I discovered that it is just a nice neighbourhood,' said Ojisan, who started making videos about Yishun last year."
The article notes: "It’s a minor mystery that Singapore-based Japanese vlogger Ghib Ojisan recently tried to find out for himself while wandering the empty walkways of People's Park Centre to look for a barbershop. ... It’s an odd and unknown request for the hairdresser, but Ojisan was insistent about his preferred cut, even as the situation grew real awkward."
reopening for now, since the article is at AFD. See
WT:DYK. —
Amakuru (
talk) 15:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
I am reverting this 18 July 2021 edit from HiloIOK (which was reinstated by Ekuftle here) per the policy WP:BLPSOURCES, which says:
Wikipedia's sourcing policy, Verifiability, says that all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation; material not meeting this standard may be removed. This policy extends that principle, adding that contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately and without discussion. This applies whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable and whether it is in a biography or in some other article.
The edits introduce incorrect information and information not supported by reliable sources:
His video received a large amount of media attention and led to a large increase in YouTube subscribers from outside Japan, which had until then been his primary audience.to
His video received a large amount of media attention and led to a large increase in YouTube subscribers from outside Japan, which had until then been his primary audience who were enthusiasts about Singapore.No reliable sources say that his YouTube subscribers before he received a large amount of attention had previously been "enthusiasts about Singapore". Instead, this article from Kyodo News's NNA Japan supports the previous text; it says, "It became a hot topic on the net news, and the number of viewers in Singapore, Malaysia, and the United States increased at a stretch. Currently, the number of subscribers is over 150,000. As the number of overseas viewers increased, the percentage of Japanese people fell to about 30%." It is a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability to make this change.
Despite Singapore's high cost of living, he remained in the country for two months to see her.was changed to
Despite his tight budget and Singapore being a relatively affluent place for a backpacking style of travel, he remained in the country for two months to be with her.The sentence is sourced to this article, which says: "And turns out, Ghib Ojisan met his wife, a Singaporean girl, back then when he was doing a travel vlog here. He then went on to stay here for two months, even though backpacking in Singapore was pretty expensive." Even though the article says he was backpacking, the article does not say that he had "tight budget", so it violates Wikipedia:No original research to add that.
The couple chose to remain in Singapore.was changed to
When deciding between either living in Japan or Singapore, the couple chose to remain in Singapore after weighing in both the pros and cons of both countries.The sentence is sourced to this article, which does not say that they were deciding between Japan and Singapore. The article does not say they were "weighing in both the pros and cons of both countries" so it is a violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability to add this.
Cunard ( talk) 19:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
"Ojisan" is Japanese for "uncle", and "Ghib Ojisan" (Uncle Ghib) is clearly a pen name. If their real name is unknown, the article should refer to them as "Ghib". Jpatokal ( talk) 09:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC)