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Do we really need to list every rock and grain of sand removed (and how much each bit of that debris weighed) while clearing the tunnel? The Canaanite Water Tunnel section has a full paragraph listing how much dirt, how much rock was removed (all of this is debris, not archæologically significant items) while excavating the tunnel, as well as bothering to mention how much that dirt weighed and how the dirt was bagged. If your hobbies are watching paint dry and weighing dirt pulled from the ground, maybe this paragraph is right up your alley, but I don't see how this adds anything for the average reader (nor even for the more in-depth readers). — al-Shimoni ( talk) 18:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
What does that mean? What about Jerusalem, Jericho, etc? There is no source and as it stands this is meaningless. Zero talk 12:42, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
The term Hebrew Bible is NPOV between Christian belief in the Old Testament and Jewish belief in the Torah. It is the recognised academic term for use when referring to this document on its own, when one is not including what Christians call the New Testament. see the wikipedia entry the Bible and History, where this document is referred to as the HB. Hope this helps.
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I've been trying to reword the lead to conform with our NPOV policy and WP:LEAD. I've added a more specific location, removed 'Land of Israel' as a phrase that in most of our articles is pov and confusing to most readers. Added some stuff about it becoming a major city, etc. I don't see why we should have a paragraph listing major biblical discoveries in the lead, why are these being made more prominent than the Bronze Age discoveries? Dougweller ( talk) 11:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
The article is a bit light on sources. I'm particularly interested in where this comes from: "Verification of the identification of this site with Biblical Gezer comes from Hebrew inscriptions found engraved on rocks several hundred meters from the tel. These inscriptions from the 1st century BCE read "boundary of Gezer"." Hebrew in the 1st century BC? What's the source for this? PiCo ( talk) 23:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Later: It's from the Jewish Virtual Library. This isn't a reliable source. They might be right, but it sounds wrong, and a more academic source is needed. PiCo ( talk) 23:52, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
"The Excavation of Ancient Gezer" by E. W. G. Masterman in "The Biblical World" Vol. 21, No. 6 (Jun., 1903) seems helpful w.r.t. all the "citation needed"s. AlgorithMan ( talk) 19:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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Alaexis I said it was unreliable. And per WP:ONUS you need consensus for the restoration of challenged material. Ill revert you later if you dont do the correct thing and self-revert absent a consensus for inclusion. nableezy - 15:35, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
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Do we really need to list every rock and grain of sand removed (and how much each bit of that debris weighed) while clearing the tunnel? The Canaanite Water Tunnel section has a full paragraph listing how much dirt, how much rock was removed (all of this is debris, not archæologically significant items) while excavating the tunnel, as well as bothering to mention how much that dirt weighed and how the dirt was bagged. If your hobbies are watching paint dry and weighing dirt pulled from the ground, maybe this paragraph is right up your alley, but I don't see how this adds anything for the average reader (nor even for the more in-depth readers). — al-Shimoni ( talk) 18:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
What does that mean? What about Jerusalem, Jericho, etc? There is no source and as it stands this is meaningless. Zero talk 12:42, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
The term Hebrew Bible is NPOV between Christian belief in the Old Testament and Jewish belief in the Torah. It is the recognised academic term for use when referring to this document on its own, when one is not including what Christians call the New Testament. see the wikipedia entry the Bible and History, where this document is referred to as the HB. Hope this helps.
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I've been trying to reword the lead to conform with our NPOV policy and WP:LEAD. I've added a more specific location, removed 'Land of Israel' as a phrase that in most of our articles is pov and confusing to most readers. Added some stuff about it becoming a major city, etc. I don't see why we should have a paragraph listing major biblical discoveries in the lead, why are these being made more prominent than the Bronze Age discoveries? Dougweller ( talk) 11:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
The article is a bit light on sources. I'm particularly interested in where this comes from: "Verification of the identification of this site with Biblical Gezer comes from Hebrew inscriptions found engraved on rocks several hundred meters from the tel. These inscriptions from the 1st century BCE read "boundary of Gezer"." Hebrew in the 1st century BC? What's the source for this? PiCo ( talk) 23:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Later: It's from the Jewish Virtual Library. This isn't a reliable source. They might be right, but it sounds wrong, and a more academic source is needed. PiCo ( talk) 23:52, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
"The Excavation of Ancient Gezer" by E. W. G. Masterman in "The Biblical World" Vol. 21, No. 6 (Jun., 1903) seems helpful w.r.t. all the "citation needed"s. AlgorithMan ( talk) 19:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
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Alaexis I said it was unreliable. And per WP:ONUS you need consensus for the restoration of challenged material. Ill revert you later if you dont do the correct thing and self-revert absent a consensus for inclusion. nableezy - 15:35, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
@ Richard Nevell:, in March of this year, I worked extensively to improve this article, but for reasons unbeknownst to me - perhaps even because of the vicissitudes of work on other topics, I downright forgot to submit a DYK on this article. Is it possible for me to receive a waiver to submit a belated DYK on this article, even though 3 months have now passed? Davidbena ( talk) 22:36, 16 June 2024 (UTC)