This page began as a reference only to the "Games for Windows" magazine. I took the liberty of adding a lot to it about the entire "Games for Windows" Microsoft campaign. Feel free to edit this page as you wish!
Also, please format to Wikipedia standards as you see fit. And anyone with more info about "Games for Windows" out there...please add whatever you can. I tried to add a logo but got a "protected page" error. I hope this page is now a bit more informative about the info I have gathered in the last few days. -Scotty -- Scottymoze 04:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I've got an image up onto the article. -Hugh784
As Microsoft is hinting at a full-on-categorization for this campaign, would it be wise to add a Games for Windows status column to new PC games?
The requirements mentioned on this page, such as compatibility with xbox 360 controller and x64 compatibility, I think are simply rumors Paul Thurrott heard (anonymously) about the future of the Games for Windows logo requirements (under Vista, maybe?). This page does not mention that these are speculation and fails to mention most of the current official requirements found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c/Games_for_Microsoft_Windows_Logo_for_Applications.asp Perhaps this page should have two sections: current requirements and future requirements for Games for Windows labelling? Ombre42 10:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Here's a screenshot I took from my Vista thing: [1] However, Wikipedia's upload tool is being downright retarded and giving me a "." is not a supported filetype error. So, here it is. Upload it, whatever, it's all good. -- Mgrinshpon 17:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents/Images_and_media -- SkyWalker 18:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I saw a dead link for the Windows Vista Games explorer on the requirements list. Rather than start a new article which would most likely end as a stub anyway, I have added a section with a picture on the Games explorer. I have also redirected Windows Vista Games Explorer to that section-- Wiki Fanatic | Talk 04:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
The games listed in the article only be for released titles, leaving the unreleased/speculative games for the gfw category. Also, Dungeon Siege II, Night Watch and Neverwinter Nights 2 does not bare the logo. Freelancer, Train simulator and Rallisport Challenge are older than the initiative itself (unless there is info). Any info regarding these, or any other games about the gfw status would be appreciated so the list can be cleaned up. - sciss0rz 00:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
There's a reliable method to do this (go to HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GameUX\$computer_ID\, edit a game that works into a game that doesn't, remove WMGameID, then open the game you replaced to get it to add to GE again), though I'm not sure how/where to add it. This I can confirm gets around everything other than the recommended WM Performance score, and none of the games I have installed have that, so I can't test it. (I assume this could replace the 'dragging to GE' tip)
There is a program available in Beta that adds games to the Explorer Window with the ability to add custom BoxArt, etc. It looks like it's nearly finished, the only thing it doesn't do is add the old game back to the explorer and it doesn't edit existing boxart at the moment. There is also a great guide that shows how to do it manually too. Try it out here.
Ryan R (M_3628905) 01:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Should the title of the article be in italics. I'm not really too sure. Sdornan 14:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
This is a very strange turn of phrase in the Windows Vista Game Explorer section, "Compatibility generally depends on the age or popularity of the games with newer games having better compatibility. For example, Starcraft is fully compatible despite being nearly a decade older than Windows Vista." How is Starcraft, a 10 year old game, being fully compatible with the explorer an example of newer games having better compatibility? This was probably meant to be something about the popularity of the game, but it needs rephrasing and/or clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TV4Fun ( talk • contribs) 22:14, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
Don't you think details about these two account types is required? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.191.150 ( talk) 09:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It's been a long time since I first tried to get this page going. I can't thank everyone enough for the great work and the great page this has become, full of great info (which is the point of Wikipedia, for those of us that might have lost sight of that). I haven't contributed nearly as much as I was when I tried to get this page going...mostly due to exclusionists on here really, really turning me off...but to see a page like this take shape is truly what Wikipedia is all about. Thanks again, and please everyone have a great 2008 and beyond. Happy editing!! (And sorry to post a forum-ish edit here, but I had to say thanks.)-- Scottymoze ( talk) 03:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This article needs to be merged here. It is not notable enough to have a separate article.-- SkyWalker ( talk) 16:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I have read and reviewed the Games for Windows about page and have come to the conclusion that the Xbox 360 controller compatibility under "Platform Standards" is flawed.
The controller compatibility is vague. In fact many games for Windows only support the Xbox 360 controller or another controller, not both at the same time. For example, Shadowrun and Quantum of Solace only support the Xbox 360 controller, which is contradictory to the Games for Windows site. This is a direct result of many games being ports from Xbox 360 games.
The Xbox 360 Controller being compatible with PC games appears to be merely an added bonus and novelty item to many games, and at this point it may be deserving of a different section. For example, a section of possible features: Tray and Play, Online Play, and Xbox 360 controller. This would accomodate all three features because they have not been used in many games (Live - 12 games, Tray & Play - 1 game).
Another option would be to just plain remove the Controller support. While it wouldn't have any impact on the history of PC games, since they are notorious for not supporting joysticks and joypads, it wouldn't be appropriate since it is one of the major points of the "Games for Windows" line-up.
Regardless, as an encyclopedia there needs to be more research done than just assume that what people say is correct. That's what researchers do, they look up information and verify the facts. And the fact is that in the 3 years that the "Games for Windows" line-up has been out very few games have taken advantage of all the features or lived up to the many desires that Microsoft has for the games. Sadly most authoritative figures will only establish that controllers are supported while not specifying if it only relates to the the Xbox 360 controller or other gamepads as well. 65.3.192.141 ( talk) 18:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I just wrote up a bunch of material in the "Features removed in Windows 7" article discussion regarding this issue so I will be brief here. Games Explorer operates very differently when comparing Vista and Windows 7. Vista allowed a user to edit shortcuts in Games Explorer - Windows 7 for the most part does not depending on how the shortcut was made (Games for Windows installation - Legacy game detected by windows legacy.dll - user dragged in shortcut). VGEE (ie: Vista Games Explorer Editor) is not fully operational in Windows 7(I can't speak as to how it works with Vista, but I assume from the product name that it may not have these issues in Vista). From my personal experience using it in Windows 7 64bit: 1. Error message every time I open it but I can continue dispite the message (something to do with Debugging log). 2. Cannot select any "Games for Windows" title or the standard microsoft titles included in Windows for changes (for example: cannot select "flight simulator x" or "Chess"). 3. You cannot enter command line switches after the program name (such as <path>\bf2.exe +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modPath mods/xpack +ignoreAsserts 1) - however if you force the issue, type it anyway, and save, you WILL corrupt the games explorer registry. If you copy a working shortcut into games explorer with command line switches like above, then use VGEE to add box art, etc. you will lose the command line settings on saving. I am sure that the issues I have experienced relate to the removal of editing ability that was dropped in Windows 7 that the programmer probably used in Vista. I am hoping that the programmer can get this working in Windows 7 since the only other solutions to editing in Games Explorer for Windows 7 are learning to use the GDF maker in the DirectX SDK or by major registry hacking. Better still, I just wish Microsoft would just return Windows 7 Games Explorer back to Vista functionality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.31.184.166 ( talk) 22:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
currently the article gives the impression no significant amount of gamers have any problems or grievances with GFW. GFW is not loved by all gamers, can someone put in a small paragraph about criticism. the article on Steam has a section on criticism so this obviously needs one too. I'd better not do it because i hate GFW and would find it hard to stay neutral in my writing! Olivier Doorenbos ( talk) 16:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I got several messages about the website's URL being changed, so I thought I should clarify. Gamesforwindows.com is being moved over to Xbox.com. As of yet, nothing is being renamed or rebranded. Look here for a source. As of right now, Gamesforwindows.com is still up and running, but it will likely be taken down within the week, just like the forums were after the new ones launched. VividNinjaScar ( talk) 00:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
The Games for Windows website started merging with XBOX.com on July 11, 2011 (the day that I changed the website in the article to the new Games for Windows Marketplace section on XBOX.com). The website in this article currently links to the Games for Windows Marketplace. How ever, a little while after I changed the website to that, Microsoft posted a new Games for Windows page on XBOX.com that is more of an introduction to Games for Windows (and the website includes a link for the marketplace). Do you think it is better to keep the website that links to the Games for Windows Marketplace or change it to the introduction page for Games for Windows? Darkquest21 ( talk) 04:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, you seem to have had no source; but it was a correct guess. So, we don't need to do anything. Oh, I never though you are personal attacking. You are cool.
Still, I think we should keep with the old URL. It is easier to remember: "Games For Windows dot Com" instead of "Marketplace dot xbox dot com slash ee en u es slash PC". Fleet Command ( talk) 08:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
To chime in here, I feel that using the shortened gamesforwindows.com would be just fine. While only an essay, the MoS for Computing states that "If the target website provider has provided shorter alternative URLs to the webpage, use them" and I think in this case, that applies. It's easier to remember for the reader, and links to the same place. I see no real reason for not using it. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 10:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
As one of the three mediators from this MedCab I would like to point out that if a general consensus was agreed by mediation process based on advice given by 3 different editors (in regards to changing the URL to a more appropriate one) in relation to the main subject of the article; then that URL should be used. The article itself is based on the subject Games for Windows and not XBox, to which Marketplace for Xbox link. In using the Xbox link, you are in theory misleading the readers in to thinking Xbox and Games for Windows are one and the same; which is not the case. Both owned by Microsoft, but separate gaming systems. If disagreement continues, then I suggest that MedCab be reopened, or perhaps escalate it further by requesting further discussion at WP:RFC. Wesley Mouse ( talk) 19:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
I, Wesley Mouse, formally offer my services as mediator in the reopening of your previous dispute, which still appears to be unresolved and may have had MedCab closed prematurely. Would interested parties please indicate whether or not they accept this suggestion, by signing below this comment. Wesley Mouse ( talk) 17:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
The MedCab has now been reopened here. Would interested parties (especially parties involved in this dispute) please indicate whether or not they accept my mediation here. And as MedCab has been reopened, I kindly request that all parties refrain from altering the URL on the main article, until a conclusion has been reached. Wesley Mouse ( talk) 17:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
There has been an announcement that Xbox Live is coming to windows under the name Xbox Live for Windows. No doubt this will replace Games for Windows and Games for Windows - Live. What should we do about the articles? Here is the link: http://majornelson.com/2011/09/13/xbox-live-and-windows-8/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by VividNinjaScar ( talk • contribs) 21:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
SimCity 4 and SimCity 4 Rush Hour occasionally; very often, crash on startup, requiring you to Task Manager shut them down, and then restart the game. However, if you shut down the game, then shut down GFW/GE, then go to restart the game, you get the SAME crash. I finally had to disable GE, and no problems since LReyome254 ( talk) 19:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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This page began as a reference only to the "Games for Windows" magazine. I took the liberty of adding a lot to it about the entire "Games for Windows" Microsoft campaign. Feel free to edit this page as you wish!
Also, please format to Wikipedia standards as you see fit. And anyone with more info about "Games for Windows" out there...please add whatever you can. I tried to add a logo but got a "protected page" error. I hope this page is now a bit more informative about the info I have gathered in the last few days. -Scotty -- Scottymoze 04:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I've got an image up onto the article. -Hugh784
As Microsoft is hinting at a full-on-categorization for this campaign, would it be wise to add a Games for Windows status column to new PC games?
The requirements mentioned on this page, such as compatibility with xbox 360 controller and x64 compatibility, I think are simply rumors Paul Thurrott heard (anonymously) about the future of the Games for Windows logo requirements (under Vista, maybe?). This page does not mention that these are speculation and fails to mention most of the current official requirements found at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c/Games_for_Microsoft_Windows_Logo_for_Applications.asp Perhaps this page should have two sections: current requirements and future requirements for Games for Windows labelling? Ombre42 10:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Here's a screenshot I took from my Vista thing: [1] However, Wikipedia's upload tool is being downright retarded and giving me a "." is not a supported filetype error. So, here it is. Upload it, whatever, it's all good. -- Mgrinshpon 17:54, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents/Images_and_media -- SkyWalker 18:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I saw a dead link for the Windows Vista Games explorer on the requirements list. Rather than start a new article which would most likely end as a stub anyway, I have added a section with a picture on the Games explorer. I have also redirected Windows Vista Games Explorer to that section-- Wiki Fanatic | Talk 04:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
The games listed in the article only be for released titles, leaving the unreleased/speculative games for the gfw category. Also, Dungeon Siege II, Night Watch and Neverwinter Nights 2 does not bare the logo. Freelancer, Train simulator and Rallisport Challenge are older than the initiative itself (unless there is info). Any info regarding these, or any other games about the gfw status would be appreciated so the list can be cleaned up. - sciss0rz 00:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
There's a reliable method to do this (go to HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\GameUX\$computer_ID\, edit a game that works into a game that doesn't, remove WMGameID, then open the game you replaced to get it to add to GE again), though I'm not sure how/where to add it. This I can confirm gets around everything other than the recommended WM Performance score, and none of the games I have installed have that, so I can't test it. (I assume this could replace the 'dragging to GE' tip)
There is a program available in Beta that adds games to the Explorer Window with the ability to add custom BoxArt, etc. It looks like it's nearly finished, the only thing it doesn't do is add the old game back to the explorer and it doesn't edit existing boxart at the moment. There is also a great guide that shows how to do it manually too. Try it out here.
Ryan R (M_3628905) 01:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Should the title of the article be in italics. I'm not really too sure. Sdornan 14:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
This is a very strange turn of phrase in the Windows Vista Game Explorer section, "Compatibility generally depends on the age or popularity of the games with newer games having better compatibility. For example, Starcraft is fully compatible despite being nearly a decade older than Windows Vista." How is Starcraft, a 10 year old game, being fully compatible with the explorer an example of newer games having better compatibility? This was probably meant to be something about the popularity of the game, but it needs rephrasing and/or clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TV4Fun ( talk • contribs) 22:14, August 29, 2007 (UTC)
Don't you think details about these two account types is required? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.191.150 ( talk) 09:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
It's been a long time since I first tried to get this page going. I can't thank everyone enough for the great work and the great page this has become, full of great info (which is the point of Wikipedia, for those of us that might have lost sight of that). I haven't contributed nearly as much as I was when I tried to get this page going...mostly due to exclusionists on here really, really turning me off...but to see a page like this take shape is truly what Wikipedia is all about. Thanks again, and please everyone have a great 2008 and beyond. Happy editing!! (And sorry to post a forum-ish edit here, but I had to say thanks.)-- Scottymoze ( talk) 03:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This article needs to be merged here. It is not notable enough to have a separate article.-- SkyWalker ( talk) 16:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I have read and reviewed the Games for Windows about page and have come to the conclusion that the Xbox 360 controller compatibility under "Platform Standards" is flawed.
The controller compatibility is vague. In fact many games for Windows only support the Xbox 360 controller or another controller, not both at the same time. For example, Shadowrun and Quantum of Solace only support the Xbox 360 controller, which is contradictory to the Games for Windows site. This is a direct result of many games being ports from Xbox 360 games.
The Xbox 360 Controller being compatible with PC games appears to be merely an added bonus and novelty item to many games, and at this point it may be deserving of a different section. For example, a section of possible features: Tray and Play, Online Play, and Xbox 360 controller. This would accomodate all three features because they have not been used in many games (Live - 12 games, Tray & Play - 1 game).
Another option would be to just plain remove the Controller support. While it wouldn't have any impact on the history of PC games, since they are notorious for not supporting joysticks and joypads, it wouldn't be appropriate since it is one of the major points of the "Games for Windows" line-up.
Regardless, as an encyclopedia there needs to be more research done than just assume that what people say is correct. That's what researchers do, they look up information and verify the facts. And the fact is that in the 3 years that the "Games for Windows" line-up has been out very few games have taken advantage of all the features or lived up to the many desires that Microsoft has for the games. Sadly most authoritative figures will only establish that controllers are supported while not specifying if it only relates to the the Xbox 360 controller or other gamepads as well. 65.3.192.141 ( talk) 18:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I just wrote up a bunch of material in the "Features removed in Windows 7" article discussion regarding this issue so I will be brief here. Games Explorer operates very differently when comparing Vista and Windows 7. Vista allowed a user to edit shortcuts in Games Explorer - Windows 7 for the most part does not depending on how the shortcut was made (Games for Windows installation - Legacy game detected by windows legacy.dll - user dragged in shortcut). VGEE (ie: Vista Games Explorer Editor) is not fully operational in Windows 7(I can't speak as to how it works with Vista, but I assume from the product name that it may not have these issues in Vista). From my personal experience using it in Windows 7 64bit: 1. Error message every time I open it but I can continue dispite the message (something to do with Debugging log). 2. Cannot select any "Games for Windows" title or the standard microsoft titles included in Windows for changes (for example: cannot select "flight simulator x" or "Chess"). 3. You cannot enter command line switches after the program name (such as <path>\bf2.exe +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modPath mods/xpack +ignoreAsserts 1) - however if you force the issue, type it anyway, and save, you WILL corrupt the games explorer registry. If you copy a working shortcut into games explorer with command line switches like above, then use VGEE to add box art, etc. you will lose the command line settings on saving. I am sure that the issues I have experienced relate to the removal of editing ability that was dropped in Windows 7 that the programmer probably used in Vista. I am hoping that the programmer can get this working in Windows 7 since the only other solutions to editing in Games Explorer for Windows 7 are learning to use the GDF maker in the DirectX SDK or by major registry hacking. Better still, I just wish Microsoft would just return Windows 7 Games Explorer back to Vista functionality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.31.184.166 ( talk) 22:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
currently the article gives the impression no significant amount of gamers have any problems or grievances with GFW. GFW is not loved by all gamers, can someone put in a small paragraph about criticism. the article on Steam has a section on criticism so this obviously needs one too. I'd better not do it because i hate GFW and would find it hard to stay neutral in my writing! Olivier Doorenbos ( talk) 16:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I got several messages about the website's URL being changed, so I thought I should clarify. Gamesforwindows.com is being moved over to Xbox.com. As of yet, nothing is being renamed or rebranded. Look here for a source. As of right now, Gamesforwindows.com is still up and running, but it will likely be taken down within the week, just like the forums were after the new ones launched. VividNinjaScar ( talk) 00:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
The Games for Windows website started merging with XBOX.com on July 11, 2011 (the day that I changed the website in the article to the new Games for Windows Marketplace section on XBOX.com). The website in this article currently links to the Games for Windows Marketplace. How ever, a little while after I changed the website to that, Microsoft posted a new Games for Windows page on XBOX.com that is more of an introduction to Games for Windows (and the website includes a link for the marketplace). Do you think it is better to keep the website that links to the Games for Windows Marketplace or change it to the introduction page for Games for Windows? Darkquest21 ( talk) 04:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, you seem to have had no source; but it was a correct guess. So, we don't need to do anything. Oh, I never though you are personal attacking. You are cool.
Still, I think we should keep with the old URL. It is easier to remember: "Games For Windows dot Com" instead of "Marketplace dot xbox dot com slash ee en u es slash PC". Fleet Command ( talk) 08:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
To chime in here, I feel that using the shortened gamesforwindows.com would be just fine. While only an essay, the MoS for Computing states that "If the target website provider has provided shorter alternative URLs to the webpage, use them" and I think in this case, that applies. It's easier to remember for the reader, and links to the same place. I see no real reason for not using it. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 10:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
As one of the three mediators from this MedCab I would like to point out that if a general consensus was agreed by mediation process based on advice given by 3 different editors (in regards to changing the URL to a more appropriate one) in relation to the main subject of the article; then that URL should be used. The article itself is based on the subject Games for Windows and not XBox, to which Marketplace for Xbox link. In using the Xbox link, you are in theory misleading the readers in to thinking Xbox and Games for Windows are one and the same; which is not the case. Both owned by Microsoft, but separate gaming systems. If disagreement continues, then I suggest that MedCab be reopened, or perhaps escalate it further by requesting further discussion at WP:RFC. Wesley Mouse ( talk) 19:39, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
I, Wesley Mouse, formally offer my services as mediator in the reopening of your previous dispute, which still appears to be unresolved and may have had MedCab closed prematurely. Would interested parties please indicate whether or not they accept this suggestion, by signing below this comment. Wesley Mouse ( talk) 17:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
The MedCab has now been reopened here. Would interested parties (especially parties involved in this dispute) please indicate whether or not they accept my mediation here. And as MedCab has been reopened, I kindly request that all parties refrain from altering the URL on the main article, until a conclusion has been reached. Wesley Mouse ( talk) 17:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
There has been an announcement that Xbox Live is coming to windows under the name Xbox Live for Windows. No doubt this will replace Games for Windows and Games for Windows - Live. What should we do about the articles? Here is the link: http://majornelson.com/2011/09/13/xbox-live-and-windows-8/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by VividNinjaScar ( talk • contribs) 21:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
SimCity 4 and SimCity 4 Rush Hour occasionally; very often, crash on startup, requiring you to Task Manager shut them down, and then restart the game. However, if you shut down the game, then shut down GFW/GE, then go to restart the game, you get the SAME crash. I finally had to disable GE, and no problems since LReyome254 ( talk) 19:48, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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