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Many of the people discussing this on the Article for deletion page made the assumption that Furcadia is specifically for furries. In my experience, this is definitely not the case. Most of the people I know on Furcadia are not part of the fur fandom. It's certainly attractive to some furries but to assume that it's a furry-only game is incorrect. Should this be mentioned in the article?-- Teiladnam 16:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
See also this discussion on the Furry Fandom template. User:kotra just added something to the article about how Furcadia relates to the fandom, although I'm not sure if it's relevant enough to stay in the article.-- Teiladnam 04:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The "Dreams" section seems to be a good candidate for splitting into its own article, as similar to DragonSpeak. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yamake ( talk • contribs) 11:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
are there no primates or reptiles? that's too bad.-- Sonjaaa ( talk) 15:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Naga reptiles are to be added in the first month of Jan 2010, as part of the 'String' update. Also, reptile patches have been made that you may use in user-created maps or 'dreams' Shaki.moshrocker ( talk) 06:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, not quite GA standard yet. Some notes for improvement;
If you have questions/comments, leave a note on my talk page. If you found this review helpful, please consider reviewing another nominee. Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide ( party) 05:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I thought this might be interesting to people. Furcadia was briefly mentioned in a college newspaper: [1]
Conner's chosen character is a snow leopard (an animal he has always felt close to) named Satoshi, which he developed from a furry role-playing game called Furcadia.
Probably nothing of use there for citation purposes, but it's something. - kotra ( talk) 13:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, any chance you could upload the screenshots to commons so we could use them on Polish Wikipedia too? Plushy ( talk) 19:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the section about erotic content again. There are currently no sources to indicate either that it's true or that it's significant. Furthermore, although this isn't exactly a biographic article, it does link to the game's creator's page and we have to be careful to source potentially controversial content. Risking an incomplete article is far better than risking a false one in such cases. Olaf Davis ( talk) 13:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
(←unindent) First draft, largely lifted from existing content in Furcadia and Twp's User:Twp/Furcadia#Adult Content section. The second paragraph is proving difficult to source, but I'm checking out this paper, which explores Furcadia in-depth. So far, it seems to be mostly about behavior, not content, but I'll keep reading.... - kotra ( talk) 01:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Although an assessment hasn't been requested, I noticed in passing that this article was rated B-class despite a number of obvious issues, so I've dropped the rating to Start and hope some of these suggestions might prove helpful for anyone who wants a go at improving the article further:
Thanks to the editors who have worked on this article and built what's here today. If anyone wishes to discuss the article or its rating please leave me a note here or on my talk. Someone another 23:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree. Thanks for the revision. There are a group of people that may be adding content, fixing things and such in the up-coming months, just as a heads up. Although I don't agree with advertising, there are still some citations that can be added as well as various other details to clarify without creating splinter articles or adding to the page length too badly. There was discussion of adding a separate Digomarket splinter page but I for one don't agree with this. I think the current method is sufficient. ʍɪ ₭Ꭵṯṭʏ 15:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
It might be a good idea to say something about the "Second Dreaming" funding drive that not only met its initial target, but ultimately raised over $100,000 for development. GreenReaper ( talk) 12:51, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
As discussed on WPVG Talk, our articles on Dragon's Eye Productions and DragonSpires are lacking reliable, non-trivial, independent references. (We've got reliable but not non-trivial, non-trivial but not independent, etc.) As it stands, both articles would likely fail an AfD as they don't meet WP:N.
That being said, I suggest that we partially merge content to this article, specifically into the Development section. The reliable-but-trivial sources we do have support some basic facts about Dragon's Eye Productions, DragonSpires, and the claim that production on DragonSpires was halted in order to focus on Furcadia, but not much more than that. (Like I said, the reliable sources are terrible.) This would beef up the Development section, plus it would reference a few uncited claims that are already being made in this article. Ideas? Woodroar ( talk) 05:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
The Development section is sorely out of date in terms of the staff working on Furcadia. Not least of the updates needed is the death of former staff member Ryhn. Many new staff have also been added recently. Updating the new staff is easy, but I'm unsure if the death of/memorial to Ryhn is notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned.
Additionally, although it looks like it's been removed, a subheading (or simply a short paragraph) for the Beekin volunteer program should be appropriate here - depending on their roles, volunteers can serve as in-game technical support, access and update the game's website, or create art for the game itself (e.g., paid avatars sold by DEP). Most current staff members are former volunteers.
Finally, the iOS client is not currently available in the App market due to conflicts with Apple's TOS. This may be worth mentioning in case anyone tries to find it. 0kitsuta0 ( talk) 08:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I am Kashi Commodore, one of the Dev Team for Furcadia. I would suggest that you do indeed correct the staff mentions listed in this article. I can confirm that Fox/Sanct no longer works directly for Furcadia, and the credits page is indeed up-to-date. However, I would say I don't feel mentioning every staff member is notable enough for this entry and would advise merely mentioning those who add to the value of this article. Indeed, a mention of the volunteer system is probably far more relevant than the staff, as the use and structure of the Beekins is somewhat unique and one of the first examples of such a programme in the industry. If you mention the iOS client, you may wish to note that the client will be re-released (after some redevelopment) as part of the fundraiser goals. I do not know if that counts as encyclopedic.
I have not (and won't) edit the article myself but thought my input here may be of some value. Shaki.moshrocker ( talk) 07:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Simply put, this section is unnecessary, written defensively, and has no citation for the demographic claims. DEP and Infire have conducted optional demographic surveys of players in the past, but the results do not seem to have been published. All relevant, cited information can be pushed into Development.
If a point needs to be made about the developers' intentions for the game, a sentence can be added referring to its stated reason for using animal avatars in the iOS FAQ. Thoughts? 0kitsuta0 ( talk) 10:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I think we brought a large number of new people into the Furry Fandom in the 1990s, and nobody realizes that. [...] We had a lot of our regulars come to our table and our room parties and tell us their Furcadia names. Some people found Furcadia through the fandom, but a LOT found the fandom through Furcadia too.
We knew that the furry fandom was too small a market to make a living from. All our previous games were aimed at a larger audience, so this one was too. We also knew that a significant percentage of our players would come from the furry fandom, and that's fine too - we enjoy furry conventions, furry websites etc. ourselves. But we don't want people to think it's only for that fandom, or that furry fandom's what it's all about.
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Before making edits to this article, I'd like to find some consensus here on the Talk page. Can Furcadia really be considered a MMORPG? I don't think it qualifies as such. It has no game mechanics of its own, let alone RPG mechanics.
It seems more like a platform, where social games can be interacted with, rather than an actual game in its own right.
I find it fits this category much more accurately:
and if you want to push the "gaming" aspect of it, then this one:
Please give me your thoughts and reasons as to why (or why not) should the article perpetuate the idea this is a MMORPG.
Thank you Raven-14 ( talk) 15:13, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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Many of the people discussing this on the Article for deletion page made the assumption that Furcadia is specifically for furries. In my experience, this is definitely not the case. Most of the people I know on Furcadia are not part of the fur fandom. It's certainly attractive to some furries but to assume that it's a furry-only game is incorrect. Should this be mentioned in the article?-- Teiladnam 16:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
See also this discussion on the Furry Fandom template. User:kotra just added something to the article about how Furcadia relates to the fandom, although I'm not sure if it's relevant enough to stay in the article.-- Teiladnam 04:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The "Dreams" section seems to be a good candidate for splitting into its own article, as similar to DragonSpeak. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yamake ( talk • contribs) 11:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
are there no primates or reptiles? that's too bad.-- Sonjaaa ( talk) 15:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Naga reptiles are to be added in the first month of Jan 2010, as part of the 'String' update. Also, reptile patches have been made that you may use in user-created maps or 'dreams' Shaki.moshrocker ( talk) 06:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, not quite GA standard yet. Some notes for improvement;
If you have questions/comments, leave a note on my talk page. If you found this review helpful, please consider reviewing another nominee. Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide ( party) 05:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I thought this might be interesting to people. Furcadia was briefly mentioned in a college newspaper: [1]
Conner's chosen character is a snow leopard (an animal he has always felt close to) named Satoshi, which he developed from a furry role-playing game called Furcadia.
Probably nothing of use there for citation purposes, but it's something. - kotra ( talk) 13:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, any chance you could upload the screenshots to commons so we could use them on Polish Wikipedia too? Plushy ( talk) 19:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
I've removed the section about erotic content again. There are currently no sources to indicate either that it's true or that it's significant. Furthermore, although this isn't exactly a biographic article, it does link to the game's creator's page and we have to be careful to source potentially controversial content. Risking an incomplete article is far better than risking a false one in such cases. Olaf Davis ( talk) 13:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
(←unindent) First draft, largely lifted from existing content in Furcadia and Twp's User:Twp/Furcadia#Adult Content section. The second paragraph is proving difficult to source, but I'm checking out this paper, which explores Furcadia in-depth. So far, it seems to be mostly about behavior, not content, but I'll keep reading.... - kotra ( talk) 01:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Although an assessment hasn't been requested, I noticed in passing that this article was rated B-class despite a number of obvious issues, so I've dropped the rating to Start and hope some of these suggestions might prove helpful for anyone who wants a go at improving the article further:
Thanks to the editors who have worked on this article and built what's here today. If anyone wishes to discuss the article or its rating please leave me a note here or on my talk. Someone another 23:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I agree. Thanks for the revision. There are a group of people that may be adding content, fixing things and such in the up-coming months, just as a heads up. Although I don't agree with advertising, there are still some citations that can be added as well as various other details to clarify without creating splinter articles or adding to the page length too badly. There was discussion of adding a separate Digomarket splinter page but I for one don't agree with this. I think the current method is sufficient. ʍɪ ₭Ꭵṯṭʏ 15:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
It might be a good idea to say something about the "Second Dreaming" funding drive that not only met its initial target, but ultimately raised over $100,000 for development. GreenReaper ( talk) 12:51, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
As discussed on WPVG Talk, our articles on Dragon's Eye Productions and DragonSpires are lacking reliable, non-trivial, independent references. (We've got reliable but not non-trivial, non-trivial but not independent, etc.) As it stands, both articles would likely fail an AfD as they don't meet WP:N.
That being said, I suggest that we partially merge content to this article, specifically into the Development section. The reliable-but-trivial sources we do have support some basic facts about Dragon's Eye Productions, DragonSpires, and the claim that production on DragonSpires was halted in order to focus on Furcadia, but not much more than that. (Like I said, the reliable sources are terrible.) This would beef up the Development section, plus it would reference a few uncited claims that are already being made in this article. Ideas? Woodroar ( talk) 05:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
The Development section is sorely out of date in terms of the staff working on Furcadia. Not least of the updates needed is the death of former staff member Ryhn. Many new staff have also been added recently. Updating the new staff is easy, but I'm unsure if the death of/memorial to Ryhn is notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned.
Additionally, although it looks like it's been removed, a subheading (or simply a short paragraph) for the Beekin volunteer program should be appropriate here - depending on their roles, volunteers can serve as in-game technical support, access and update the game's website, or create art for the game itself (e.g., paid avatars sold by DEP). Most current staff members are former volunteers.
Finally, the iOS client is not currently available in the App market due to conflicts with Apple's TOS. This may be worth mentioning in case anyone tries to find it. 0kitsuta0 ( talk) 08:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I am Kashi Commodore, one of the Dev Team for Furcadia. I would suggest that you do indeed correct the staff mentions listed in this article. I can confirm that Fox/Sanct no longer works directly for Furcadia, and the credits page is indeed up-to-date. However, I would say I don't feel mentioning every staff member is notable enough for this entry and would advise merely mentioning those who add to the value of this article. Indeed, a mention of the volunteer system is probably far more relevant than the staff, as the use and structure of the Beekins is somewhat unique and one of the first examples of such a programme in the industry. If you mention the iOS client, you may wish to note that the client will be re-released (after some redevelopment) as part of the fundraiser goals. I do not know if that counts as encyclopedic.
I have not (and won't) edit the article myself but thought my input here may be of some value. Shaki.moshrocker ( talk) 07:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
Simply put, this section is unnecessary, written defensively, and has no citation for the demographic claims. DEP and Infire have conducted optional demographic surveys of players in the past, but the results do not seem to have been published. All relevant, cited information can be pushed into Development.
If a point needs to be made about the developers' intentions for the game, a sentence can be added referring to its stated reason for using animal avatars in the iOS FAQ. Thoughts? 0kitsuta0 ( talk) 10:26, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
I think we brought a large number of new people into the Furry Fandom in the 1990s, and nobody realizes that. [...] We had a lot of our regulars come to our table and our room parties and tell us their Furcadia names. Some people found Furcadia through the fandom, but a LOT found the fandom through Furcadia too.
We knew that the furry fandom was too small a market to make a living from. All our previous games were aimed at a larger audience, so this one was too. We also knew that a significant percentage of our players would come from the furry fandom, and that's fine too - we enjoy furry conventions, furry websites etc. ourselves. But we don't want people to think it's only for that fandom, or that furry fandom's what it's all about.
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Before making edits to this article, I'd like to find some consensus here on the Talk page. Can Furcadia really be considered a MMORPG? I don't think it qualifies as such. It has no game mechanics of its own, let alone RPG mechanics.
It seems more like a platform, where social games can be interacted with, rather than an actual game in its own right.
I find it fits this category much more accurately:
and if you want to push the "gaming" aspect of it, then this one:
Please give me your thoughts and reasons as to why (or why not) should the article perpetuate the idea this is a MMORPG.
Thank you Raven-14 ( talk) 15:13, 1 November 2018 (UTC)