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What exactly is the issue with the sources on this page? It's been cited, but I'm not certain what exactly is being questioned? Roryhinnen 17:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
The references are too few (they should be given for paragraphs, not sections) and improperly located, see WP:CITE and WP:V.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
As with some other articles, I find myself wondering exactly what references or sources are desired in this case. Aside from the statement about being one of the "most popular" games (which might require a source for verification), essentially the rest of the article is a description of the game rules. Where is the analysis of the rules? I don't see any. There's no opinions offered about the rules themselves, how good/bad, exciting, novel they are, etc. So again I ask (barring the initial claim of popularity) what sources are required/desired? (I know nothing about this game, but the way.) Craw-daddy 22:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I inserted the {{primarysources}} tag into this article since it really needs third party references to demonstrate its notability. While I'm sure that those references exist, I don't know where they are and thought that those more familiar with the game would be better at locating them. I would imagine that at some point in the future another editor is going to push hard for a clear demonstration of notability, as this article has none to show this right now. At that point a response of "no it doesn't" to the statement "need independent sources" isn't going to satisfy them. I'm not planning to be that editor who pushes for this, but I thought you should be warned that right now this article fails the requirements for third party sources to satisfy WP:N. Cheers --Craw-daddy | T | 07:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
From WP:N: A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The phrase "independent of the subject" is the important part here. The only references are to the rulebooks, which are fine when you discuss the rules, but for notability they don't satisfy that requirement. What is desired is to find reviews that talk about the game, awards won, etc, etc to show notability. --Craw-daddy | T | 07:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Where actually do you have the information from, that the NSL falls under a "national-socialist core government"? According to Tufffley himself:
"One important note concerning the NSL: according to our background, they are NOT "Nazis in Space", so no swastika markings! Think in terms of noble Austro-Hungarian and Prussian aristocracy - use WWI/modern German crosses if you wish, though we prefer stylised eagle symbols." from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3565/ft-painting-faq.html#New%20Swabian%20League%20(NSL) (retrieved 11.11.07) 85.127.177.237 01:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see a section that contrasts FT2.5 with other popular starship games, most notably Battlefleet Gothic. The games emphasize very different aspects of play. BFG, for example, places emphasis on the ships crew quality and leadership, while FT2.5 focuses on ship design. BFG feels very "naval" in its orientation, while FT2.5's vector movement system leads to a unique maneuver pattern all its own. On the other hand, both systems employ a balance of capital ships and small attack craft, with both used to provide power projection. 131.96.91.19 ( talk) 17:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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updated to include the revisions in FB1 and 2.
What exactly is the issue with the sources on this page? It's been cited, but I'm not certain what exactly is being questioned? Roryhinnen 17:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
The references are too few (they should be given for paragraphs, not sections) and improperly located, see WP:CITE and WP:V.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
As with some other articles, I find myself wondering exactly what references or sources are desired in this case. Aside from the statement about being one of the "most popular" games (which might require a source for verification), essentially the rest of the article is a description of the game rules. Where is the analysis of the rules? I don't see any. There's no opinions offered about the rules themselves, how good/bad, exciting, novel they are, etc. So again I ask (barring the initial claim of popularity) what sources are required/desired? (I know nothing about this game, but the way.) Craw-daddy 22:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I inserted the {{primarysources}} tag into this article since it really needs third party references to demonstrate its notability. While I'm sure that those references exist, I don't know where they are and thought that those more familiar with the game would be better at locating them. I would imagine that at some point in the future another editor is going to push hard for a clear demonstration of notability, as this article has none to show this right now. At that point a response of "no it doesn't" to the statement "need independent sources" isn't going to satisfy them. I'm not planning to be that editor who pushes for this, but I thought you should be warned that right now this article fails the requirements for third party sources to satisfy WP:N. Cheers --Craw-daddy | T | 07:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
From WP:N: A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The phrase "independent of the subject" is the important part here. The only references are to the rulebooks, which are fine when you discuss the rules, but for notability they don't satisfy that requirement. What is desired is to find reviews that talk about the game, awards won, etc, etc to show notability. --Craw-daddy | T | 07:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Where actually do you have the information from, that the NSL falls under a "national-socialist core government"? According to Tufffley himself:
"One important note concerning the NSL: according to our background, they are NOT "Nazis in Space", so no swastika markings! Think in terms of noble Austro-Hungarian and Prussian aristocracy - use WWI/modern German crosses if you wish, though we prefer stylised eagle symbols." from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3565/ft-painting-faq.html#New%20Swabian%20League%20(NSL) (retrieved 11.11.07) 85.127.177.237 01:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see a section that contrasts FT2.5 with other popular starship games, most notably Battlefleet Gothic. The games emphasize very different aspects of play. BFG, for example, places emphasis on the ships crew quality and leadership, while FT2.5 focuses on ship design. BFG feels very "naval" in its orientation, while FT2.5's vector movement system leads to a unique maneuver pattern all its own. On the other hand, both systems employ a balance of capital ships and small attack craft, with both used to provide power projection. 131.96.91.19 ( talk) 17:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)