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The lead mentions twice that 30 million people are expected to die from famine, and this number is also in the infobox. However, neither of the sources for the first instance mentions anything about 30 million, and the source for the second instance doesn't say 30 million deaths are expected; the only mention of 30 million is the following passage: "He said in the video briefing that WFP is providing food to nearly 100 million people on any given day, including “about 30 million people who literally depend on us to stay alive.” Beasley, who is recovering from COVID-19, said if those 30 million people can’t be reached, “our analysis shows that 300,000 people could starve to death every single day over a three-month period” — and that doesn’t include increased starvation due to the coronavirus." This implies that if World Food Programme is unable to provide for the 30 million people who desperately need their help, an estimated 27,000,000 could starve to death. That certainly is a terrifying prospect, but there's no indication WFP will suddenly go from 100% support to 0% support to cause this to actually occur, and even if it would, a possible 27 million is very different from, I quote the current lead, "it is almost certain that at least 30 million will die". Is there any source that actually says 30 million deaths are expected, or does this need to be adjusted? I'll tag the lines with citation needed tags for now. VDZ ( talk) 23:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The United States in not in famine conditions and is not cited in the Global Report on Food Crises and therefore should be added to the list in that section. As it is not experiencing famines in any area it should not be listed in the in lead. As it is not listed in the cited source - the Oxfam report - it should not be added to the infobox. ArcMachaon ( talk) 22:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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Great Food Crisis. The discussion will occur at
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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 21:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
COVID-19 pandemic–related famines → Famines related to the COVID-19 pandemic – WP:CONSISTENT with Misinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
That photo of the malnourished child -- are we sure it belongs in this article? It's from 2007. I'd argue it's not helpful to readers trying to understand this food crisis. —valereee ( talk) 15:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:46, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Famines related to the COVID-19 pandemic → 2019-20 famines – because these are multifactorial famines the article even says that repetitively. Investigatory ( talk) 11:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs ( talk) 13:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
In my view the problem with the article title is that it speaks of famines (at the time when it was created, it was based on warnings that there might be famines in the near future), and reliable sources say that there hasn't been one to date, (New York Times), or that it's been narrowly avoided so far (World Food Programme). At the same time it's clear that there are many people suffering hunger and that much remains to be done to counter the threat of famine. Any suggestions for a better title? -- Andreas JN 466 17:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Given this is a discussion of a global issue, and most of the areas marked as being at risk of famine are near to or below the equator, it might be a good idea to remove the reference to a hemisphere-specific season replace with 'early 2020'. 203.214.76.86 ( talk) 13:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Crimea is a part of Ukraine but this above mentioned map implies that Crimea is a part of Russia, which is objectively wrong and against international law. I suggest changing this so that Crimea is marked as a part of Ukraine 131.246.71.132 ( talk) 18:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Should we rename this article "Food insecurity during the COVID-19 pandemic"? Fourmidable ( talk) 13:42, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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The lead mentions twice that 30 million people are expected to die from famine, and this number is also in the infobox. However, neither of the sources for the first instance mentions anything about 30 million, and the source for the second instance doesn't say 30 million deaths are expected; the only mention of 30 million is the following passage: "He said in the video briefing that WFP is providing food to nearly 100 million people on any given day, including “about 30 million people who literally depend on us to stay alive.” Beasley, who is recovering from COVID-19, said if those 30 million people can’t be reached, “our analysis shows that 300,000 people could starve to death every single day over a three-month period” — and that doesn’t include increased starvation due to the coronavirus." This implies that if World Food Programme is unable to provide for the 30 million people who desperately need their help, an estimated 27,000,000 could starve to death. That certainly is a terrifying prospect, but there's no indication WFP will suddenly go from 100% support to 0% support to cause this to actually occur, and even if it would, a possible 27 million is very different from, I quote the current lead, "it is almost certain that at least 30 million will die". Is there any source that actually says 30 million deaths are expected, or does this need to be adjusted? I'll tag the lines with citation needed tags for now. VDZ ( talk) 23:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The United States in not in famine conditions and is not cited in the Global Report on Food Crises and therefore should be added to the list in that section. As it is not experiencing famines in any area it should not be listed in the in lead. As it is not listed in the cited source - the Oxfam report - it should not be added to the infobox. ArcMachaon ( talk) 22:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect
Great Food Crisis. The discussion will occur at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 30#Great Food Crisis until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
Steel1943 (
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00:48, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 21:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
COVID-19 pandemic–related famines → Famines related to the COVID-19 pandemic – WP:CONSISTENT with Misinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 05:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
That photo of the malnourished child -- are we sure it belongs in this article? It's from 2007. I'd argue it's not helpful to readers trying to understand this food crisis. —valereee ( talk) 15:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved ( non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs ( talk) 15:46, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Famines related to the COVID-19 pandemic → 2019-20 famines – because these are multifactorial famines the article even says that repetitively. Investigatory ( talk) 11:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BegbertBiggs ( talk) 13:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
In my view the problem with the article title is that it speaks of famines (at the time when it was created, it was based on warnings that there might be famines in the near future), and reliable sources say that there hasn't been one to date, (New York Times), or that it's been narrowly avoided so far (World Food Programme). At the same time it's clear that there are many people suffering hunger and that much remains to be done to counter the threat of famine. Any suggestions for a better title? -- Andreas JN 466 17:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Given this is a discussion of a global issue, and most of the areas marked as being at risk of famine are near to or below the equator, it might be a good idea to remove the reference to a hemisphere-specific season replace with 'early 2020'. 203.214.76.86 ( talk) 13:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Crimea is a part of Ukraine but this above mentioned map implies that Crimea is a part of Russia, which is objectively wrong and against international law. I suggest changing this so that Crimea is marked as a part of Ukraine 131.246.71.132 ( talk) 18:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Should we rename this article "Food insecurity during the COVID-19 pandemic"? Fourmidable ( talk) 13:42, 7 July 2023 (UTC)