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Added some information on the origins of fish sauce in SEA, sorry for no sources, I'll have to look through a bunch of my SEA'n history books, but I'll see what I can do Tmbentley ( talk) 04:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Why must you search for nuoc mam misspelled as "nouc mam" to find this page? Should we change the spelling of every non-english word on wikipedia??
I think Garum shouldn't redirect here but ought to have its own independent page discussing solely the roman sauce, its manufacture, use and trade. Salvadorjo 02:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I think its good to see the link made between garum and South East Asian fish sauces, but agree a separate page on Garum and Colatura (the modern version of Garum still made in Cetera on the Amalfi Coast south of Naples) would be good.
I've translated the Spanish article on Garum into English and changed the redirect into an article. See what you think! Erudy 17:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
dysmorodrepanis wrote:
The difference between garum and liquamen is not entirely clear. Pretty much all our textual sources say that they are the same thing, but archaeological evidence implies they were originally different. Food scholar Sally Grainger is working on an article on this subject [1] that will argue that liquamen was essentially any fish sauce, but garum was made specifically from blood and intestines of especially desirable fish. WHile mackerel was definitely considered a desirable fish, and whereas one might expect blood-based fish sauce to be especially thick, I don't think this is entirely certain. Furthermore, until Grainger officially publishes her article, we can't use it. Did you have another source? -- Iustinus 01:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure who is responsible, but I want to express my sincere gratitude to all of the editors that make this article a great one. You seem to have captured the essence of this extraordinary condiment; one that I could not live without. Cheers to all of you. Morton devonshire 00:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
It might be worth mentioning that "hoisin sauce" is sometimes translated to "fish sauce," but is actually a different condiment altogether ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoisin_sauce).
I think a link to surströmming is needed, but I can't seem to "fit" in the article. Shinobu 04:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
"However, fish sauce specifically from Philippines are, not customarily used nor designed for immediate consumption a simple heating or thawing of fish sauce does not apply at all." It's difficult for me to parse this sentence. Perhaps it could be worded in a way that's more understandable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.12.177.217 ( talk) 22:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I went to a sort of pan-Asian restaurant that served what they called "fish sauce" on the side with many dishes. The sauce is transparent, yellow to slightly orange, sweet, salty, thin (not viscous), has no oil floating on top, has a difficult to describe flavor, and they claim it contains no fish. I tend to believe this, because it doesn't taste fishy. What is this sauce? Any idea? I assume it is called "fish sauce" because it is for fish, sort of like duck sauce. Any ideas? Is this kind of sauce common? Thank you. Fluoborate ( talk) 05:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Early ketchup was fermented fish sauce before tomato catchup was invented. Perhaps this small fact could be mentioned. wloveral 30 May 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.82.243.21 ( talk) 21:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
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It currently reads "Ancient China or Ancient Greece." Suggest changing to "Ancient China AND Ancient Greece?" Facial ( talk) 06:10, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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Taiman123 gave this edit summary: "citation is 404 and it doesn't make sense". Actually, I would say it make perfect sense - the point not being that sodium miraculously disappears when fish sauce is added, but that less sodium needs be added to get a palatable dish when fish sauce is also used. Googling e.g "vietnamese fish sauce alternative to sodium" yields several still valid hits from 2016, but I am not sure any of these qualify as a good source, e.g. ScienceDaily being known for churnalism.-- Nø ( talk) 15:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
The working link and the extra clarification is good, I agree with this, thank you. Timan123 ( talk) 14:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC) to Nø
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Added some information on the origins of fish sauce in SEA, sorry for no sources, I'll have to look through a bunch of my SEA'n history books, but I'll see what I can do Tmbentley ( talk) 04:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Why must you search for nuoc mam misspelled as "nouc mam" to find this page? Should we change the spelling of every non-english word on wikipedia??
I think Garum shouldn't redirect here but ought to have its own independent page discussing solely the roman sauce, its manufacture, use and trade. Salvadorjo 02:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
I think its good to see the link made between garum and South East Asian fish sauces, but agree a separate page on Garum and Colatura (the modern version of Garum still made in Cetera on the Amalfi Coast south of Naples) would be good.
I've translated the Spanish article on Garum into English and changed the redirect into an article. See what you think! Erudy 17:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
dysmorodrepanis wrote:
The difference between garum and liquamen is not entirely clear. Pretty much all our textual sources say that they are the same thing, but archaeological evidence implies they were originally different. Food scholar Sally Grainger is working on an article on this subject [1] that will argue that liquamen was essentially any fish sauce, but garum was made specifically from blood and intestines of especially desirable fish. WHile mackerel was definitely considered a desirable fish, and whereas one might expect blood-based fish sauce to be especially thick, I don't think this is entirely certain. Furthermore, until Grainger officially publishes her article, we can't use it. Did you have another source? -- Iustinus 01:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure who is responsible, but I want to express my sincere gratitude to all of the editors that make this article a great one. You seem to have captured the essence of this extraordinary condiment; one that I could not live without. Cheers to all of you. Morton devonshire 00:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
It might be worth mentioning that "hoisin sauce" is sometimes translated to "fish sauce," but is actually a different condiment altogether ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoisin_sauce).
I think a link to surströmming is needed, but I can't seem to "fit" in the article. Shinobu 04:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
"However, fish sauce specifically from Philippines are, not customarily used nor designed for immediate consumption a simple heating or thawing of fish sauce does not apply at all." It's difficult for me to parse this sentence. Perhaps it could be worded in a way that's more understandable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.12.177.217 ( talk) 22:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I went to a sort of pan-Asian restaurant that served what they called "fish sauce" on the side with many dishes. The sauce is transparent, yellow to slightly orange, sweet, salty, thin (not viscous), has no oil floating on top, has a difficult to describe flavor, and they claim it contains no fish. I tend to believe this, because it doesn't taste fishy. What is this sauce? Any idea? I assume it is called "fish sauce" because it is for fish, sort of like duck sauce. Any ideas? Is this kind of sauce common? Thank you. Fluoborate ( talk) 05:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Early ketchup was fermented fish sauce before tomato catchup was invented. Perhaps this small fact could be mentioned. wloveral 30 May 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.82.243.21 ( talk) 21:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
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It currently reads "Ancient China or Ancient Greece." Suggest changing to "Ancient China AND Ancient Greece?" Facial ( talk) 06:10, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
For the record, today, in this edit, user:Timan123 removed this text:
Taiman123 gave this edit summary: "citation is 404 and it doesn't make sense". Actually, I would say it make perfect sense - the point not being that sodium miraculously disappears when fish sauce is added, but that less sodium needs be added to get a palatable dish when fish sauce is also used. Googling e.g "vietnamese fish sauce alternative to sodium" yields several still valid hits from 2016, but I am not sure any of these qualify as a good source, e.g. ScienceDaily being known for churnalism.-- Nø ( talk) 15:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
The working link and the extra clarification is good, I agree with this, thank you. Timan123 ( talk) 14:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC) to Nø
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