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This article is a fairly decent introduction to the topic, but it focuses exclusively on the military aspects of the topic. When did civilians gain access to firearms? How did they use them? I know at least hunting, and I have read elsewhere that rural hunters of the late 19th century drove the Japanese wolf to extinction (sorry, no source). Firearms must have played a role in that event. Then there's the present: firearms are not completely illegal; so what is their present legal status? What role do they play in organized crime ( yakuza)? At the moment, the title promises more than the article delivers. Boneyard90 ( talk) 20:48, 6 August 2012 (UTC) reply

Remove citations of Perrin's book?

In the podcast Samurai archives, devotes a full episode to the myth that Japanese culture gave up guns during the Edo period. Specifically, they discuss how the myth originates from Perrin's Giving up the gun, making the case that this book is roundly derided in academic circles.

They also discuss this article and how widely it cites that book. Naturally, decided to have a look, and was surprised that the article doesn't seem to have progressed much. I'm no expert in this topic, but if what they say is true, surely, the book isn't a good source for citation (the podcasters suggest that their podcast be cited, but that doesn't exactly seem like a primary source). 2001:981:2E0D:1:49F3:2E06:7008:F135 ( talk) 14:18, 21 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Perrin as a source

There has been a lot of talk ever since Perrin made his book. That 5th citation talks a lot about samurai (and well, all of japan, really) and their role with guns, but many historians don't really like it. I myself don't know a lot about the history, but I do think it could be removed. I recently heard about this book again (on Samurai Archives as another person above also said), and I think that has to be mentioned the next time someone edits the page. Kit Fisto Bro ( talk) 22:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Coverage

This article is a fairly decent introduction to the topic, but it focuses exclusively on the military aspects of the topic. When did civilians gain access to firearms? How did they use them? I know at least hunting, and I have read elsewhere that rural hunters of the late 19th century drove the Japanese wolf to extinction (sorry, no source). Firearms must have played a role in that event. Then there's the present: firearms are not completely illegal; so what is their present legal status? What role do they play in organized crime ( yakuza)? At the moment, the title promises more than the article delivers. Boneyard90 ( talk) 20:48, 6 August 2012 (UTC) reply

Remove citations of Perrin's book?

In the podcast Samurai archives, devotes a full episode to the myth that Japanese culture gave up guns during the Edo period. Specifically, they discuss how the myth originates from Perrin's Giving up the gun, making the case that this book is roundly derided in academic circles.

They also discuss this article and how widely it cites that book. Naturally, decided to have a look, and was surprised that the article doesn't seem to have progressed much. I'm no expert in this topic, but if what they say is true, surely, the book isn't a good source for citation (the podcasters suggest that their podcast be cited, but that doesn't exactly seem like a primary source). 2001:981:2E0D:1:49F3:2E06:7008:F135 ( talk) 14:18, 21 July 2018 (UTC) reply

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Perrin as a source

There has been a lot of talk ever since Perrin made his book. That 5th citation talks a lot about samurai (and well, all of japan, really) and their role with guns, but many historians don't really like it. I myself don't know a lot about the history, but I do think it could be removed. I recently heard about this book again (on Samurai Archives as another person above also said), and I think that has to be mentioned the next time someone edits the page. Kit Fisto Bro ( talk) 22:39, 25 July 2024 (UTC) reply


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