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Were the Saatchi brothers of Saatchi & Saatchi fame, Iraqi Jews expelled in this event?
This article has a ridiculous focus on the Mufti of Jerusalem, who in fact played a minor role in this event. It also has plain errors of fact (eg. "charged with terrorism"). Until I can find time to fix it, this article gets a tag. -- Zero 01:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Moreover, there was no "near complete expulsion" in 1951. -- Zero 10:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Ian, are you seriously going to argue that Farhud was the only pogrom from 5th century BCE until 1941? ← Humus sapiens ну? 20:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
the hebrew article, from which i've made the edits, is well-sourced, although the sources are in hebrew only. considering the dearth of sources on the subject, i doubt many good non-hebrew sources can be found. how can we proceed? while it is obvious that "no english sources means it never happened" is a bad policy, i still don't like the idea of having no english sources. should i copy the hebrew ones from hebrew wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.228.215 ( talk) 17:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
how do such groups work together, without breaking rules against canvasing? what is the most effective way to reach a postive consensus, when in most cases it seems to just be a one on one, head butting with no hope of agreement? -- Cimicifugia ( talk) 01:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)Cimicifugia
Why was this page moved without discussion?
This event is known as the Farhud. I suggest moving the article back to where it belongs. No More Mr Nice Guy ( talk) 09:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear Oncenawhile, you have recently performed an on Farhud article, tagging it as "clarifying, matching rest of article, removing non-RS source and oversimplification of catalyst". However, i must note your removed two sources, one of which is clearly a WP:RS (US Dept of State research division). Please self-revert as WP:GF. GreyShark ( dibra) 16:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC) [Copied by Oncenawhile from user talk]
Can anyone provide WP:RS supporting the statement in the infobox that the Farhud was "part of the Holocaust"?
Oncenawhile ( talk) 22:24, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kurdistan#Farhud_-_a_Kurdish_word?, can anyone find a source explaining why this term is used? Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
User:Chesdovi, please could you explain this edit from 2010? The source you added ( [1]) does not include one of the quotes you linked it to ("forgotten pogrom of the Holocaust"). Interestingly, the quote since turned up in a book written three years later, where the authors appear to have taken the two quotes together verbatim from your wikipedia edit..... Oncenawhile ( talk) 17:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Cohen and Shenhav both state they were not aware of any other pogroms in the history of Iraq's Jews.
However, we have an uncited sentence stating "There had been at least two earlier comparable pogroms in the modern history of Iraqi Jews, in Basra in 1776 and in Baghdad in 1828."
Can anyone source this?
Oncenawhile ( talk) 07:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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To editor
Peaceray: You asked why I think a better source than
this Daily Telegraph article is needed for "There were many instances of violence against Jews during their long history in Iraq.
". That's easy. The article in question mostly consists of interviews with people of unknown expertise regarding modern times. The general reliability of Daily Telegraph means that we can trust that those interviews were reported fairly; it does not mean that the people interviewed gave a correct and balanced account. Also, the "long history [of Jews] in Iraq" is an interval spanning thousands of years, yet the only mention of something before the 19th century is a claim about Ottoman times by a "65-year-old business consultant". On this topic there are a very large number of serious works by historians, so there is really no excuse for relying on a collection of amateur anecdotes for such a general statement.
Zero
talk 23:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
{{Unreliable source?|reason=Please see Talk:Farhud#Needs better source|date=December 2023}}
to the statement in
Farhud#Iraq's Jewish Community.There were instances of violence against Jews during the 19th century.to better reflect the time period?
On this topic there are a very large number of serious works by historians. Are there any that document a history of violence against Jews in Iraq? If so, would you please list them here.
Rachel Wahba has written extensively about her mother's traumatic experience during the Farhud
. There may be some things in her writings to include in the article, or perhaps a mention of them.
Peaceray (
talk) 20:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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Were the Saatchi brothers of Saatchi & Saatchi fame, Iraqi Jews expelled in this event?
This article has a ridiculous focus on the Mufti of Jerusalem, who in fact played a minor role in this event. It also has plain errors of fact (eg. "charged with terrorism"). Until I can find time to fix it, this article gets a tag. -- Zero 01:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
Moreover, there was no "near complete expulsion" in 1951. -- Zero 10:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Ian, are you seriously going to argue that Farhud was the only pogrom from 5th century BCE until 1941? ← Humus sapiens ну? 20:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
the hebrew article, from which i've made the edits, is well-sourced, although the sources are in hebrew only. considering the dearth of sources on the subject, i doubt many good non-hebrew sources can be found. how can we proceed? while it is obvious that "no english sources means it never happened" is a bad policy, i still don't like the idea of having no english sources. should i copy the hebrew ones from hebrew wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.228.215 ( talk) 17:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
how do such groups work together, without breaking rules against canvasing? what is the most effective way to reach a postive consensus, when in most cases it seems to just be a one on one, head butting with no hope of agreement? -- Cimicifugia ( talk) 01:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)Cimicifugia
Why was this page moved without discussion?
This event is known as the Farhud. I suggest moving the article back to where it belongs. No More Mr Nice Guy ( talk) 09:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear Oncenawhile, you have recently performed an on Farhud article, tagging it as "clarifying, matching rest of article, removing non-RS source and oversimplification of catalyst". However, i must note your removed two sources, one of which is clearly a WP:RS (US Dept of State research division). Please self-revert as WP:GF. GreyShark ( dibra) 16:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC) [Copied by Oncenawhile from user talk]
Can anyone provide WP:RS supporting the statement in the infobox that the Farhud was "part of the Holocaust"?
Oncenawhile ( talk) 22:24, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kurdistan#Farhud_-_a_Kurdish_word?, can anyone find a source explaining why this term is used? Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
User:Chesdovi, please could you explain this edit from 2010? The source you added ( [1]) does not include one of the quotes you linked it to ("forgotten pogrom of the Holocaust"). Interestingly, the quote since turned up in a book written three years later, where the authors appear to have taken the two quotes together verbatim from your wikipedia edit..... Oncenawhile ( talk) 17:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Cohen and Shenhav both state they were not aware of any other pogroms in the history of Iraq's Jews.
However, we have an uncited sentence stating "There had been at least two earlier comparable pogroms in the modern history of Iraqi Jews, in Basra in 1776 and in Baghdad in 1828."
Can anyone source this?
Oncenawhile ( talk) 07:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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To editor
Peaceray: You asked why I think a better source than
this Daily Telegraph article is needed for "There were many instances of violence against Jews during their long history in Iraq.
". That's easy. The article in question mostly consists of interviews with people of unknown expertise regarding modern times. The general reliability of Daily Telegraph means that we can trust that those interviews were reported fairly; it does not mean that the people interviewed gave a correct and balanced account. Also, the "long history [of Jews] in Iraq" is an interval spanning thousands of years, yet the only mention of something before the 19th century is a claim about Ottoman times by a "65-year-old business consultant". On this topic there are a very large number of serious works by historians, so there is really no excuse for relying on a collection of amateur anecdotes for such a general statement.
Zero
talk 23:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
{{Unreliable source?|reason=Please see Talk:Farhud#Needs better source|date=December 2023}}
to the statement in
Farhud#Iraq's Jewish Community.There were instances of violence against Jews during the 19th century.to better reflect the time period?
On this topic there are a very large number of serious works by historians. Are there any that document a history of violence against Jews in Iraq? If so, would you please list them here.
Rachel Wahba has written extensively about her mother's traumatic experience during the Farhud
. There may be some things in her writings to include in the article, or perhaps a mention of them.
Peaceray (
talk) 20:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)