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I believe this portrait by Theodor Fischer depicts Albert, not Eric. A wider view from Schloss Schwerin shows the text above the painting, which identifies him as King Albert. This painting is from 19th century and has always been in the same gallery, so it seems unlikely that the identity of the subject would have been forgotten. The Gotland symbol can surely be explained in a variety of ways, as he did rule Gotland with the Victual Brothers. Isn't it also unlikely that the heir would have been depicted with the crown?
One can compare with other portraits of Albert: [1] [2] [3] (Nationalmuseum server seems to be unreliable, but the last link does occasionally work). He's wearing the same clothes in the above images, and given the artistic licence, there is some likeness, as is there with the fresco of him as an old man (e.g. the hair and the eyebrows). Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 20:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
For the interested, here's a short description of the Ahnengalerie: https://www.landesmuseum-mv.de/en/exhibit/ancestral-portrait-gallery-in-schwerin-palace/ The painting is also discussed in this book:
I don't have full access, but these Google Books snippets [5] [6] give some background information on which works the painting was based on. Apparently this painting was "helpful", but Fischer's painting was based more on a drawing by Carl George Schumacher, which unfortunately seems to have been lost during WW2 [7]. Perhaps the book would also tell what Schumacher's drawing was based on. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 18:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
The image caption clearly states the conditions, the reasonable indications, under which this image has been included in this article. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 11:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Is the suggested birthyear "after 1359" based on Nordman, and if so, how does he justify it? I expanded the first paragraph under Life based on Röpcke 2020, and it is now somewhat contradictory with the infobox and the first sentence. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 19:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
@ SergeWoodzing, regarding this diff: Röpcke ascribes his death to Seuche, which seems to be one of those German words that are difficult to translate into modern English. One meaning is plague, but he explicitly argues against that meaning. Other meaning is "epidemic" in more general sense, i.e. any disease that spreads like a plague. It would be good to tell that he died of some disease suddenly. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 12:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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I believe this portrait by Theodor Fischer depicts Albert, not Eric. A wider view from Schloss Schwerin shows the text above the painting, which identifies him as King Albert. This painting is from 19th century and has always been in the same gallery, so it seems unlikely that the identity of the subject would have been forgotten. The Gotland symbol can surely be explained in a variety of ways, as he did rule Gotland with the Victual Brothers. Isn't it also unlikely that the heir would have been depicted with the crown?
One can compare with other portraits of Albert: [1] [2] [3] (Nationalmuseum server seems to be unreliable, but the last link does occasionally work). He's wearing the same clothes in the above images, and given the artistic licence, there is some likeness, as is there with the fresco of him as an old man (e.g. the hair and the eyebrows). Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 20:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
For the interested, here's a short description of the Ahnengalerie: https://www.landesmuseum-mv.de/en/exhibit/ancestral-portrait-gallery-in-schwerin-palace/ The painting is also discussed in this book:
I don't have full access, but these Google Books snippets [5] [6] give some background information on which works the painting was based on. Apparently this painting was "helpful", but Fischer's painting was based more on a drawing by Carl George Schumacher, which unfortunately seems to have been lost during WW2 [7]. Perhaps the book would also tell what Schumacher's drawing was based on. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 18:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
The image caption clearly states the conditions, the reasonable indications, under which this image has been included in this article. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 11:40, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Is the suggested birthyear "after 1359" based on Nordman, and if so, how does he justify it? I expanded the first paragraph under Life based on Röpcke 2020, and it is now somewhat contradictory with the infobox and the first sentence. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 19:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
@ SergeWoodzing, regarding this diff: Röpcke ascribes his death to Seuche, which seems to be one of those German words that are difficult to translate into modern English. One meaning is plague, but he explicitly argues against that meaning. Other meaning is "epidemic" in more general sense, i.e. any disease that spreads like a plague. It would be good to tell that he died of some disease suddenly. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 12:52, 21 June 2024 (UTC)