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Whilst Kiev has been the customary English name of the city with special status, the modern transliteration of the Ukrainian name Kyiv has recently become more commonly used in English. "Kiev" was the longstanding title of Wikipedia's article on the subject. [note 1] [note 2] However, a move discussion closed on 16 September 2020 resulted in that article being moved to the title " Kyiv", following a documented shift in usage in English-language media.
An RfC closed on 11 November 2020 discussion established the following guidance for whether to use Kyiv or Kiev in an article:
The following rule of thumb for determining what is current or historical was also established:
Please read Wikipedia conventions regarding Ukrainian names for further information. // Timothy :: talk 16:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC) // Timothy :: talk 16:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
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If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence, and acknowledge that to comply with that I should have left the ordinal there for the time being. However, there is also an exception to the above guideline given by MOS:FULLNAME, which recommends giving the full name in bold (which may not be the short name chosen for the title); in this case, that could be e.g. Magnus III Birgersson "Ladulås", if we include the ordinal. Whether Ladulås needs to be given in quotation marks is debatable. Regardless of the exact format of the first sentence, we should definitely include the names Magnus, Birgersson, and Ladulås, probably also 'Barnlock' in the introductory paragraph, as they all feature in most sources. Your revert removed some of that information from the lead. It would have been better to just restore the ordinal.
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Whilst Kiev has been the customary English name of the city with special status, the modern transliteration of the Ukrainian name Kyiv has recently become more commonly used in English. "Kiev" was the longstanding title of Wikipedia's article on the subject. [note 1] [note 2] However, a move discussion closed on 16 September 2020 resulted in that article being moved to the title " Kyiv", following a documented shift in usage in English-language media.
An RfC closed on 11 November 2020 discussion established the following guidance for whether to use Kyiv or Kiev in an article:
The following rule of thumb for determining what is current or historical was also established:
Please read Wikipedia conventions regarding Ukrainian names for further information. // Timothy :: talk 16:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC) // Timothy :: talk 16:10, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Magnus III of Sweden, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Birger Magnusson.
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Hello! This is not what we do when there is an unresolved move discussion on the talk page. Please never do anything like that again! SergeWoodzing ( talk) 14:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence, and acknowledge that to comply with that I should have left the ordinal there for the time being. However, there is also an exception to the above guideline given by MOS:FULLNAME, which recommends giving the full name in bold (which may not be the short name chosen for the title); in this case, that could be e.g. Magnus III Birgersson "Ladulås", if we include the ordinal. Whether Ladulås needs to be given in quotation marks is debatable. Regardless of the exact format of the first sentence, we should definitely include the names Magnus, Birgersson, and Ladulås, probably also 'Barnlock' in the introductory paragraph, as they all feature in most sources. Your revert removed some of that information from the lead. It would have been better to just restore the ordinal.
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