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A User didn't want this (ahem) "interesting" addition deleted without a sojourn to Talk. Well, here we are.
Deleted text read:
At least three qualities are universally admitted to be characteristic of the English nation: courage, common sense, and an incorruptible spirit of fair play
-- Mais oui! ( talk) 07:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I certainly have sympathy for this edit. The article did very much put undue emphasis on cricket, giving the impression that this was practically the sole influence on "English national identity."
On the other hand, this article is otherwise effectively just a stub. One might expect that a proper article on the topic would indeed have a paragraph on cricket--as well as others on (what?) cream teas, thatched cottages, the colonial heritage, the north/south divide, and whatever else may be imagined to contribute to such an identity.
If we remove everything, we stifle the chance to expand the article. As such, I propose to reintroduce some of the information that was taken out, and indicate that this is an article that requires significant expansion. -- jbmurray ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I have some links, but would appreciate some input. Fergananim ( talk) 13:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 12:57, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
English national identity → Englishness – 'Englishness' is the common name for this identity, used in many reliable sources and publications on the subject. Google Books Ngram Viewer search shows that 'Englishness' vastly exceeding the current title [1]. This would also be WP:CONSISTENT with Britishness, which I find to be a bonus. Heanor ( talk) 12:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Should this even exist? It's based in little fact and is a rather scrambled read. I'd suggest this just get deleted. 2603:6000:B2F0:740:DD8C:16A3:A8D5:D891 ( talk) 05:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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A User didn't want this (ahem) "interesting" addition deleted without a sojourn to Talk. Well, here we are.
Deleted text read:
At least three qualities are universally admitted to be characteristic of the English nation: courage, common sense, and an incorruptible spirit of fair play
-- Mais oui! ( talk) 07:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I certainly have sympathy for this edit. The article did very much put undue emphasis on cricket, giving the impression that this was practically the sole influence on "English national identity."
On the other hand, this article is otherwise effectively just a stub. One might expect that a proper article on the topic would indeed have a paragraph on cricket--as well as others on (what?) cream teas, thatched cottages, the colonial heritage, the north/south divide, and whatever else may be imagined to contribute to such an identity.
If we remove everything, we stifle the chance to expand the article. As such, I propose to reintroduce some of the information that was taken out, and indicate that this is an article that requires significant expansion. -- jbmurray ( talk • contribs) 22:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
I have some links, but would appreciate some input. Fergananim ( talk) 13:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not Moved Mike Cline ( talk) 12:57, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
English national identity → Englishness – 'Englishness' is the common name for this identity, used in many reliable sources and publications on the subject. Google Books Ngram Viewer search shows that 'Englishness' vastly exceeding the current title [1]. This would also be WP:CONSISTENT with Britishness, which I find to be a bonus. Heanor ( talk) 12:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Should this even exist? It's based in little fact and is a rather scrambled read. I'd suggest this just get deleted. 2603:6000:B2F0:740:DD8C:16A3:A8D5:D891 ( talk) 05:32, 28 January 2023 (UTC)