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These penguins huddle together to stay warm. The way they do this is by each penguin taking turns. They take turns by making themselves warm and then moving out of the way for other penguins. That way, every penguin gets the chance to stay warm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.110.20 ( talk) 17:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC) David Attenborough first discussed the emporer penguins' breeding habits in specific in Episode 2 (Frozen Worlds) of th 1984 BBC documentary The_Living_Planet. That makes 3 references. Erikswedberg ( talk) 05:41, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do they travel so far inland to raise their young? - Drue 17:11, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Is it the male or the male and female that have a brood pouch? Penguins love Antarctica
People think that if you want to you can...
There are various vulgarities and such plaguing the article that I am unable to remove via the edit.
Though there's a clear history of the scientific taxonomy of the emperor penguin, what is the origin of its "emperor" nickname? Katiewillingham ( talk) 20:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Are the Penguins of Madagascar Emperor Penguins? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.241.10.115 ( talk) 02:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The article originally contained this image from the movie March of the Penguins. I removed it as a copyvio. Using that image to illustrate an article about the movie is fair use but using it in this article is not. — mendel ☎ 04:40, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
The March of the Penguins article says that penguins come of breeding age at 5 years old. How long do they live? And what's the annual cycle of the chicks till they turn 5? - Gyan 02:15:57, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
-130==How tall is the Emperor Penguin?==
At the beggining it says "between 1.27 and 1.6m", but in Physical Characteristics it says "adults average 0.75m"
Additionally, www.emperor-penguin.com lists their height as "about 115cm".
There is a diffrence in what the "penguins" on one hand and "emperor penguin" on the other states how tall these creatures are. One states that penguins average at 1.1m and the other 1.3m. I am more inclined to believe 1.1 but am unsure of how large they average
I looked around at sites, and 1.15m is usually what they state as the average height of an emperor penguin -isionous —Preceding
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Penguins start breeding at the age of 7... —Preceding
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Frustratingly, penguins' size ranges often do not specify between length (beak to tail) and height. Best ones I've found: length 100–130 cm (39½–51 in) from The Complete Guide to Antarctic Wildlife: Birds and Marine Mammals of the Antarctic Continent and the Southern Ocean (Shirihai 2002), which is consistent with an average length of 45 in (114 cm) given elswhere; and height 80–100 cm (31½–39½ in) from The Encyclopedia of Birds of the World of Animals series (1985), which seems consistent at least with this and seems certainly more agreeable than the 120+ cm claims while standing next to people. Of course, height is an unusual measurement to be taken for birds – not to mention difficult to determine accurately – so unspecified figures in ornithological literature are likely to represent length. -- Anshelm '77 ( talk) 22:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Part of the problem is going to be that Emperor penguins tend to stoop. Their normal pose with beak down is far shorter than stretched with beak up but when tweating/chirping (no idea what the correct word is) they are beak up and stretched to full length. 100-130cm seems about right given this range of posture. Apologies if this is counts as OR but it is a talk page and I have spent alot of time near Emperor Penguins [1] Mtpaley ( talk) 22:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
I added English units to various parts of the article. I'm not a big fan of the antiquated system of measurement, but the fact is that a large part of the English-speaking world understands "1 pound" much better than "450 grams." (Besides which: where does the suspiciously non-round "450 grams" number for the egg weight come from? I bet someone read that the egg was a pound and thus translated it into 450 g.)-- RattBoy 15:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Editing Talk:Emperor Penguin (section) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediasertion that "a large part" of English speakers can't understand what 450 g means, is incorrect. The article also looks awkward with every unit of measure (weight of penguin, height of penguin, etc.) having both kinds of units. = Axlq 16:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with Axlq. While most of what he said is true, wouldn't it look more...I don't know, polictly correct with both? Not sure how to say it, but it would just be better with both in my opinion. Not everyone in america knows the metric system. I still don't get it, and I'm 13. = Dragonryth
I agree completely with Axlq. Also I feel that I should point out that a large percentage of english wikipedia users are non-native english speakers and are completely unfamiliar with English units, Imperial units or United States customary units 85.220.23.200 21:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree completely with Axlq and Chiklit. Rattboy, thanks for adding English Units. Axlq's reference to the 'majority of the world' has no significance here. This is not the 'Majority of The World' Wikipedia site, this is the 'English' Wikipedia site. Axlq derogatorily wrote, '...There are only three holdout countries...' Whoa Whoa Whoa! Let's back up here. Again, the rest of the world has no significance here. This is the English Wikipedia site. And to your sorrow, you'll discover that one of those three 'holdouts' is the country with the Most English Speakers In The Whole Wide World-- The United States Of America. Since the country that has the Mostest, Biggest Amount, Largest, More-Than-Any-Other-Country-In-The-Whole-Wide-World number of English speakers uses English Units of measurement, the English Wikipedia should state measurements in English Units. To only state measurements in Metric would be acting 'politically correct' since only a minority of Elitists in the US advocate for Metric only. In school, more than forty years ago, I was told that the US would be all Metric within ten years. We said 'why?' Teacher said, 'Cause it's easier! And the rest of the world already uses it.' We said, 'We're all for 'easier', but isn't the rest of the world supposed to be following our lead? And why would we scrap our perfectly-good-for-centuries English Units? Can't we have both?' For anybody from outside the United States reading this now, we are taught BOTH the English and the Metric system. And guess what? Nobody died over it. We discovered here in the United States that we can figuratively 'walk and chew gum at the same time' (i.e. we can converse both in English Units and in Metric Units). Most of the few number of people advocating for 'Metric only' here in the US are those at the University level who followed the route of High School-Bachelors-Teaching Assistant/Masters Candidate-Doctoral Candidate- Doctorate/Professor route. Notice something missing there? (Hint: Life in the real world). Anyway--- back in my old school days, the teacher was all befuddled. She continued by saying, 'Well wouldn't it be easier if all we had to do was shift the decimal point when we do calculations? Wouldn't that be easier than using our hodgepodge collection of measurements?' She was real confused when I said, 'Hodgepodge? Don't you realize that some of our measurements are in the binary system?' That really confused her so I shared with her by reciting the binary place values, 1,2,4,8,32,64,128 etc Then I said, '1ounce, 2ounces, 4ounces(gill), 8ounces(cup), 16 ounces(pint), 32 ounces(quart), 64 ounces(half gallon), 128 ounces(gallon).' She quit arguing and never used the word 'hodgepodge' again. Now, Axlq, when you came back as your sock-puppet ( 85.220.23.200 ) to agree with yourself you made an additional claim that, '...a large percentage of english wikipedia users are non-native english speakers and are completely unfamiliar with English units...' Even though that claim doesn't pass the smell test, the extreme left side of the Wikipedia page is for folks in that category. They could click Here, Here, Here, or any of the many other 'language' versions listed on the left side. Finally, to User Chiklit, on your user page you claim you can speak seven (7) different languages. That is remarkable and very praiseworthy. What an accomplishment! But how can you claim that you can juggle around the vocabularies of seven different languages (and use them!!), but yet you can't remember, '...how 'hot' 28 C is, or how 'heavy' 76 kg is...'? Ending note, just as Hong Kong was able to juggle English language and Chinese language side-by-side and became the immensely successful business and trade center that it was, we here in the US are able to deal with both the English Units and the Metric Units. But the English Units are our 'first language' so to speak. And did I mention that the Country that has the MOST English speaker in the Whole Wide World uses English Units of measure primarily? And did I mention that this is the English Wikipedia site? Joe Hepperle ( talk) 11:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a single breeding site for the whole Emperor Penguin population every year, or many?
Their breeding site is a called a rookery.
THANK YOU
"It is the only penguin that breeds during the winter in Antarctica." What about the King Penguin? GrahamBould 12:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
The information on the diving behavior appears to come from one of the National Geographic's additional features on the March of the Penguins DVD. It's under the title of "Crittercam: Emperor Penguin". Probably there was a ink-on-paper article based on the same work. 83.104.55.73 21:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
After some difficulty finding it, I've removed a citation needed tag from the following paragraph:
These penguins can dive 150 to 250 meters (490-820 feet) into the Southern Ocean. They can venture deeper, the deepest diving on record being 565 m (1870 ft). The longest they can hold their breath when underwater is 20 minutes. Their swimming speed is 6 km to 9 km per hour (4-6 mph), but they can achieve up to 19 km per hour (12 mph) in short bursts. One of their feeding strategies is to dive to about 50 meters, where they can easily spot sub-ice fish Pagothenia borchgrevinki swimming against the under surface of the sea-ice, which they then catch, dive again and repeat the sequence about half a dozen times before surfacing to breathe.
This information is supported by the Crittercam short included with the March of the Penguins DVD, which was already listed under Further reading.
If anyone wants to make it a specific citation, feel free. But it would be a bit out of place IMO. Most of the information in the article doesn't have explicit references at this level. Some articles in Wikipedia do have an explicit reference for every factoid, and I think it looks appalling! Most do not. Other encyclopedias do not. But anway, that's a citation if anyone wants to include it, and the justification for removing the cite needed tag. It removes this excellent article from Category:Articles with unsourced statements, where it was a bit out of place. Andrewa 20:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
4ft is what they really are.
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No way are they that tall, more like 1m which is only 3ft. Where did this height come from? Mtpaley 20:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
They average about 3-4ft. tall as a mature adult (Rivolier) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.crawford714 ( talk • contribs) 17:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
This is obviously an error, but I don't know which temperature is correct...
In March or April, the penguins start courtship,where they go to court and get married when the temperature can be as low as -40 °C (-40 °F) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luv tomato ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC).
very good infomation #1 Site Wikipedia!!!
This section is a bit vague. Is it the temperature at which the penguins actually mate or the temperature at which they incubate over winter? I don't know about the former but they certainly go well below -40C in winter while incubating eggs, look up any coastal antarctic station and you will see winter temperatures below -50C. Mtpaley ( talk) 00:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
I just read this article, and i think its no longer "least concern", although im not sure what it is now, is it EN for endangered? http://www.enn.com/net.html?id=2035
Polygon 18:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I was just wondering why the conservation status was changed
back to what it was before? I 'fixed' it before I registered officially, and I checked my sources. I even left a link where it was supposed to be. Why was it changed back?
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The article currently repeats itself about the huddling to keep warm, mentioned in both behavio(u)r and breeding. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
There are some minor things, such as spacing around ref numbers, and I've fixed a few obvious bits. Generally needs a careful read through to check for consistency and logical flow from one sentence to the next. I've not checked references yet, and I'll give the whole thing a second read through when you are ready. Jimfbleak ( talk) 07:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Jimfbleak ( talk) 06:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Right then. input here what everyone feels is required. I took out some cultural refs which I couldn't ref and may be unable to. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 07:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Much appreciated guys...flightless (ROFL)....meaning looks not to be altered. Will get ref and trim images. thx for input. easy fixes apart from zoo headache Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
What do we think guys? Keep the upper one with adults and chicks for size comparison, or ditch it and use the one from further down the article with the two images? I slightly prefer the top one but appreciate different POV Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Every time I try to google search words including Emperor Penguin exhibit and Zoo, all these Zoo tycoon pages pop up ......Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 09:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
basal needs a disambig Randomblue ( talk) 16:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
I would like to suggest a bit of a change to this excellent article, the change leading to a clearer understanding by the reader of evolution as a process that is the explanation of how living things currently are, rather than as a goal-oriented process.
(Biologists know what they really mean when they use the words "to" and "for" as shortcuts, and have been using these words for years, but the general public may not be cognizant of the fact that, indeed they are just shortcuts that assume knowledge of evolution. And it looks like the majority of the population do have a misconceived notion of evolution as a goal-oriented process. So lets be more precise in our language to try to improve the general public's understanding of the process of evolution by its results)
The 1st change would be to substitute "for" with "enabling"; for example "with a streamlined body and wings stiffened and flattened into flippers for(sic) a marine lifestyle" be changed to "with a streamlined body and wings stiffened and flattened into flippers, enabling a marine lifestyle".
The other change: using wording that again more precisely reflects the understanding the process of evolution in replacing "to" with better terminology:
from "It has several adaptations to facilitate this" to "It has several adaptations that facilitate this"
from "haemoglobin to allow it to function" to "haemoglobin that allows it to function"
from "solid bones to reduce barotrauma" to "solid bones that reduce barotrauma"
from "Like all penguin species, it has a streamlined body to minimise drag while swimming" to "Like all penguin species, it has a streamlined body that minimises drag while swimming"
from "The tongue is equipped with rear-facing barbs to prevent prey from escaping" to "The tongue is equipped with rear-facing barbs that prevent prey from escaping"
from "and before old feathers are lost, to help reduce heat loss" to "and before old feathers are lost, which reduces heat loss"
And slightly different: from "It uses a complex set of calls that are critical to individual recognition between parents, offspring, and mates" to "a complex set of calls by an individual is recognized by its parents, offspring, and mates" - this change presents the facts to a reader, from which a logical thinker would come this conclusion on his/her own, rather than reading a conclusion from "authority." Individual conclusion from the evidence, instead of being told from an "authority" what that "authority" concludes.
As you can conclude from this missive, I want the processes and results of science to be presented in such clarity that creationists have as little to twist as possible.
Eddiethecat ( talk) 00:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Be careful to avoid OR and mis-quoting. I can see the problem, being the use of goal oriented language by those who do not subscribe to a goal oriented process, but if that is what they say it is difficult to change the language and avoid criticism. Of course, find a RS that states that this is simply a linguistic convenience and and you could drop that into an info box without having to trawl through making many many changes. There is also the minority of creationist (both biblical and ID) biologists to consider. When they use goal oriented language, that's how they mean it. 203.25.140.98 ( talk) 03:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Oops. wasn't logged in. LowKey ( talk) 03:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Remove "torrid" from cultural references and substitute "frigid" - Antarctica is anything but torrid (Brazil is torrid). —Preceding
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I have a project and I need some information about penguins I need to no what they eat there water shelter and light so I chose the Emperor penguins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.196.71.224 ( talk) 23:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Nevermind. Mbroderick271 ( talk) 01:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I always enjoy it when a non-video game article makes it to featured status. It's a breath of fresh air! Thanks Raul! Jackass110 ( talk) 01:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
There is an inconsistancy between the lead and the description. Lead states weight between 22 to 37 kg (48 to 82 lb), description states 22 to 45 kg (50–100 lb). The only source easily searchable states an average weight of 45 kg. Makes one wonder how this made it as a featured article. Arzel ( talk) 02:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Do Emperor penguins mingle at all with other penguin species? Do they try to drive them away when seen, as competitors and threats to the chicks? (The answer might belong in the section at the end that mentions Happy Feet, as the plot involves different penguin species ... having adventures and stuff.) Tempshill ( talk) 21:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I work on the french wikipedia. Does somebody know where is the second place where the Emperor penguin is kept on captivity. Ben23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.5.126.99 ( talk) 17:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Did some research because of my interest in the lost Emperor in New Zealand (nicknamed Happy Feet) Looks like there are now 3 other sites, The Nagoya Aquarium and Adventureland both in Japan and also the Laohutan Ocean Park in China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.23.152 ( talk) 19:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry that should say Adventure World in Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.23.152 ( talk) 20:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
In the section "Adaptations to pressure and low oxygen", we can read: However, it is unknown how the species avoids the effects of nitrogen-induced decompression sickness.
Effects of nitrogen-induced decompression sickness afflicts scuba divers, but, decompression sickness in a animal making pulmonar dives? I think is rare in human no scuba dives, and I never heard about decompression sickness in mammals or birds, included those who submerge to big depths. -- Furado ( talk) 21:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I think that statement is quite misleading. It seems to say that Emperor Penguins should get decompression sickness, while, like Furado metions, little is known about how it's possible to even get decompression sickness without breading underwater...-- Sebastien.Hubert ( talk) 14:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
In the lead and in the body, we say that the penguin can hold its breath for up to 18 minutes. We have a cite to back it up. In a picture caption, we say 20 minutes. We have a different cite to back it up. I favor eliminating the assertion in the caption as the 18-minute source is more detailed and explained. As an aside, the film March of the Penguins said 15 minutes.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:54, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
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Please remove "His trip is slightly shorter than it was originally, because the melting of ice in the summer gradually decreases the distance between the breeding site and the open sea". The males commence making these trips in early August, before the onset of spring. According to David Attenborough's 'Frozen Planet', currently being broadcast by the BBC, the distance from the breeding colony to the edge of the ice doubles between the time that the male and female penguins first journey to the breeding site to commence breeding, and the time that the females first return following the hatching of the offspring. The male's trip back to the sea follows the female's return; his trip is therefore significantly longer than it was originally. If the sentence is to remain, a confirmed citation needs to be included to corroborate it, given the contradictions it introduces into the article. However, the sentence is ambiguous, as it could alternatively be referring to the male's return trip to the breeding site following his first trip to the sea to after a winter spent incubating an egg. In this instance, the sentence remains inappropriate, as the males do not undertake only one trip per breeding season and most of those trips are not in the summer. Perhaps "His return trips are slightly shorter than his outgoing journeys." would be better, if this is the intended meaning, but requires a citation.
Re: nprice (talk) 21:49, 27 November 2011:
Early August in Antarctica is not "well-after [sic] spring is over"; in the southern hemisphere the winter solstice is on or near 21st June, and the spring equinox is on or near 23rd September, early August falling mid-way between these dates.
Whether or not the source we refer to is considered citable, it is likely to be accurate.
The statement is both ambiguous and misleading, as it implies firstly that the male's trips between the breeding grounds and the sea take place in the summer, whereas most of them do not, and secondly that the male's return to the sea is shorter than his original trip inland, when the opposite is the case. These implications are contradicted by other sources, including the remainder of the article and the wildlife documentary we have referred to. Given the apparent inaccuracy of the statement, marking the sentence as 'citation needed' is probably not sufficient; the sentence should be removed, or edited as suggested, including a 'citation needed' tag specifically for the modified and shortened version, to improve the accuracy of the article. Tssk1000 ( talk) 19:56, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Behaviour > Emperor Penguin swimming in the Melbourne Aquarium. This penguin is a King Penguin. Please remove the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edy12 ( talk • contribs) 23:18, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/11/no-one-had-ever-seen-this-colony-of-9000-penguins-until-last-month-here-are-the-first-pictures/ — FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp ( talk) 15:31, 13 January 2013 (UTC) — Nice pictures.
The UK's BBC have just broadcast a 3 part TV documentary, "Penguins - Spy in the Huddle" ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01460gm). Please can someone with more wiki-fu add/format it :-) 109.156.123.207 ( talk) 23:34, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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I would just like to add the wingspan to the description. Thepenguino ( talk) 22:49, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I've rewritten the numbers section of the article mainly based on this 2012 paper (which caught my attention at work today). It was cited before, but tacked on at the end in a very confusing fashion that suggested it reported a decline (which it doesn't). In doing so, I've removed some of the specific population counts for various locations, as these were often a couple of decades old and may no longer be accurate. This leaves the last paragraph - vaguely talking about a Woods Hole study - hanging without a cite; any idea where this came from?
It'd be good to have something on the Cape Crozier population counts - it grew several times over between the Scott expedition and the middle of the century - but I can't immediately find a source for it. I'll see if I can dig up this. Andrew Gray ( talk) 19:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
"The Emperor Penguin is perhaps best known for the sequence of journeys adults make each year in order to mate and to feed their offspring"
I think this is an absurd claim. The word "perhaps" indicates that even whoever wrote it was not really convinced it could be true. I strongly doubt that it is the one single thing that most people would know about the emperor penguin, and there is absolutely no way to verify such a claim even if someone did believe it was true. You can avoid all of these problems by simply stating the facts objectively - for example, "Adult emperor penguins make a sequence of journeys each year in order to mate and feed their offspring". 201.215.187.159 ( talk) 13:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no move. Current configuration seems in line with other related articles and with WikiProject guidelines. -- tariqabjotu 07:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Emperor Penguin → Emperor penguin – By far the most common way to refer to this bird in reliable sources is through sentence case. I am aware of WP:FAUNA saying that bird names should not follow sentence case; however, doing so would violate WP:RS, WP:AT and other policies. Check out this ngram. The blue line? That's sentence case. The red line is ALSO sentence case, just at the beginning of a sentence. The yellowish line is Title Case and is clearly not the one most used by reliable sources. So let's follow their lead and not capitalize the animal. I'm aware that this is a featured article, but that hasn't stopped other featured articles in the past from being moved (see Giant otter, Gray wolf, and probably others.) Again, the WP:GUIDELINE says that we need to capitalize all birds, but that's absolutely not what they are commonly or authoritatively called. Guidelines have exceptions and are subject to consensus. What do you think should be done here? Red Slash 09:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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These penguins huddle together to stay warm. The way they do this is by each penguin taking turns. They take turns by making themselves warm and then moving out of the way for other penguins. That way, every penguin gets the chance to stay warm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.110.20 ( talk) 17:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC) David Attenborough first discussed the emporer penguins' breeding habits in specific in Episode 2 (Frozen Worlds) of th 1984 BBC documentary The_Living_Planet. That makes 3 references. Erikswedberg ( talk) 05:41, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Why do they travel so far inland to raise their young? - Drue 17:11, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Is it the male or the male and female that have a brood pouch? Penguins love Antarctica
People think that if you want to you can...
There are various vulgarities and such plaguing the article that I am unable to remove via the edit.
Though there's a clear history of the scientific taxonomy of the emperor penguin, what is the origin of its "emperor" nickname? Katiewillingham ( talk) 20:09, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Are the Penguins of Madagascar Emperor Penguins? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.241.10.115 ( talk) 02:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The article originally contained this image from the movie March of the Penguins. I removed it as a copyvio. Using that image to illustrate an article about the movie is fair use but using it in this article is not. — mendel ☎ 04:40, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
The March of the Penguins article says that penguins come of breeding age at 5 years old. How long do they live? And what's the annual cycle of the chicks till they turn 5? - Gyan 02:15:57, 2005-09-10 (UTC)
-130==How tall is the Emperor Penguin?==
At the beggining it says "between 1.27 and 1.6m", but in Physical Characteristics it says "adults average 0.75m"
Additionally, www.emperor-penguin.com lists their height as "about 115cm".
There is a diffrence in what the "penguins" on one hand and "emperor penguin" on the other states how tall these creatures are. One states that penguins average at 1.1m and the other 1.3m. I am more inclined to believe 1.1 but am unsure of how large they average
I looked around at sites, and 1.15m is usually what they state as the average height of an emperor penguin -isionous —Preceding
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Penguins start breeding at the age of 7... —Preceding
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Frustratingly, penguins' size ranges often do not specify between length (beak to tail) and height. Best ones I've found: length 100–130 cm (39½–51 in) from The Complete Guide to Antarctic Wildlife: Birds and Marine Mammals of the Antarctic Continent and the Southern Ocean (Shirihai 2002), which is consistent with an average length of 45 in (114 cm) given elswhere; and height 80–100 cm (31½–39½ in) from The Encyclopedia of Birds of the World of Animals series (1985), which seems consistent at least with this and seems certainly more agreeable than the 120+ cm claims while standing next to people. Of course, height is an unusual measurement to be taken for birds – not to mention difficult to determine accurately – so unspecified figures in ornithological literature are likely to represent length. -- Anshelm '77 ( talk) 22:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Part of the problem is going to be that Emperor penguins tend to stoop. Their normal pose with beak down is far shorter than stretched with beak up but when tweating/chirping (no idea what the correct word is) they are beak up and stretched to full length. 100-130cm seems about right given this range of posture. Apologies if this is counts as OR but it is a talk page and I have spent alot of time near Emperor Penguins [1] Mtpaley ( talk) 22:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
I added English units to various parts of the article. I'm not a big fan of the antiquated system of measurement, but the fact is that a large part of the English-speaking world understands "1 pound" much better than "450 grams." (Besides which: where does the suspiciously non-round "450 grams" number for the egg weight come from? I bet someone read that the egg was a pound and thus translated it into 450 g.)-- RattBoy 15:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Editing Talk:Emperor Penguin (section) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediasertion that "a large part" of English speakers can't understand what 450 g means, is incorrect. The article also looks awkward with every unit of measure (weight of penguin, height of penguin, etc.) having both kinds of units. = Axlq 16:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with Axlq. While most of what he said is true, wouldn't it look more...I don't know, polictly correct with both? Not sure how to say it, but it would just be better with both in my opinion. Not everyone in america knows the metric system. I still don't get it, and I'm 13. = Dragonryth
I agree completely with Axlq. Also I feel that I should point out that a large percentage of english wikipedia users are non-native english speakers and are completely unfamiliar with English units, Imperial units or United States customary units 85.220.23.200 21:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I disagree completely with Axlq and Chiklit. Rattboy, thanks for adding English Units. Axlq's reference to the 'majority of the world' has no significance here. This is not the 'Majority of The World' Wikipedia site, this is the 'English' Wikipedia site. Axlq derogatorily wrote, '...There are only three holdout countries...' Whoa Whoa Whoa! Let's back up here. Again, the rest of the world has no significance here. This is the English Wikipedia site. And to your sorrow, you'll discover that one of those three 'holdouts' is the country with the Most English Speakers In The Whole Wide World-- The United States Of America. Since the country that has the Mostest, Biggest Amount, Largest, More-Than-Any-Other-Country-In-The-Whole-Wide-World number of English speakers uses English Units of measurement, the English Wikipedia should state measurements in English Units. To only state measurements in Metric would be acting 'politically correct' since only a minority of Elitists in the US advocate for Metric only. In school, more than forty years ago, I was told that the US would be all Metric within ten years. We said 'why?' Teacher said, 'Cause it's easier! And the rest of the world already uses it.' We said, 'We're all for 'easier', but isn't the rest of the world supposed to be following our lead? And why would we scrap our perfectly-good-for-centuries English Units? Can't we have both?' For anybody from outside the United States reading this now, we are taught BOTH the English and the Metric system. And guess what? Nobody died over it. We discovered here in the United States that we can figuratively 'walk and chew gum at the same time' (i.e. we can converse both in English Units and in Metric Units). Most of the few number of people advocating for 'Metric only' here in the US are those at the University level who followed the route of High School-Bachelors-Teaching Assistant/Masters Candidate-Doctoral Candidate- Doctorate/Professor route. Notice something missing there? (Hint: Life in the real world). Anyway--- back in my old school days, the teacher was all befuddled. She continued by saying, 'Well wouldn't it be easier if all we had to do was shift the decimal point when we do calculations? Wouldn't that be easier than using our hodgepodge collection of measurements?' She was real confused when I said, 'Hodgepodge? Don't you realize that some of our measurements are in the binary system?' That really confused her so I shared with her by reciting the binary place values, 1,2,4,8,32,64,128 etc Then I said, '1ounce, 2ounces, 4ounces(gill), 8ounces(cup), 16 ounces(pint), 32 ounces(quart), 64 ounces(half gallon), 128 ounces(gallon).' She quit arguing and never used the word 'hodgepodge' again. Now, Axlq, when you came back as your sock-puppet ( 85.220.23.200 ) to agree with yourself you made an additional claim that, '...a large percentage of english wikipedia users are non-native english speakers and are completely unfamiliar with English units...' Even though that claim doesn't pass the smell test, the extreme left side of the Wikipedia page is for folks in that category. They could click Here, Here, Here, or any of the many other 'language' versions listed on the left side. Finally, to User Chiklit, on your user page you claim you can speak seven (7) different languages. That is remarkable and very praiseworthy. What an accomplishment! But how can you claim that you can juggle around the vocabularies of seven different languages (and use them!!), but yet you can't remember, '...how 'hot' 28 C is, or how 'heavy' 76 kg is...'? Ending note, just as Hong Kong was able to juggle English language and Chinese language side-by-side and became the immensely successful business and trade center that it was, we here in the US are able to deal with both the English Units and the Metric Units. But the English Units are our 'first language' so to speak. And did I mention that the Country that has the MOST English speaker in the Whole Wide World uses English Units of measure primarily? And did I mention that this is the English Wikipedia site? Joe Hepperle ( talk) 11:47, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Is there a single breeding site for the whole Emperor Penguin population every year, or many?
Their breeding site is a called a rookery.
THANK YOU
"It is the only penguin that breeds during the winter in Antarctica." What about the King Penguin? GrahamBould 12:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
The information on the diving behavior appears to come from one of the National Geographic's additional features on the March of the Penguins DVD. It's under the title of "Crittercam: Emperor Penguin". Probably there was a ink-on-paper article based on the same work. 83.104.55.73 21:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
After some difficulty finding it, I've removed a citation needed tag from the following paragraph:
These penguins can dive 150 to 250 meters (490-820 feet) into the Southern Ocean. They can venture deeper, the deepest diving on record being 565 m (1870 ft). The longest they can hold their breath when underwater is 20 minutes. Their swimming speed is 6 km to 9 km per hour (4-6 mph), but they can achieve up to 19 km per hour (12 mph) in short bursts. One of their feeding strategies is to dive to about 50 meters, where they can easily spot sub-ice fish Pagothenia borchgrevinki swimming against the under surface of the sea-ice, which they then catch, dive again and repeat the sequence about half a dozen times before surfacing to breathe.
This information is supported by the Crittercam short included with the March of the Penguins DVD, which was already listed under Further reading.
If anyone wants to make it a specific citation, feel free. But it would be a bit out of place IMO. Most of the information in the article doesn't have explicit references at this level. Some articles in Wikipedia do have an explicit reference for every factoid, and I think it looks appalling! Most do not. Other encyclopedias do not. But anway, that's a citation if anyone wants to include it, and the justification for removing the cite needed tag. It removes this excellent article from Category:Articles with unsourced statements, where it was a bit out of place. Andrewa 20:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
4ft is what they really are.
-G
No way are they that tall, more like 1m which is only 3ft. Where did this height come from? Mtpaley 20:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
They average about 3-4ft. tall as a mature adult (Rivolier) —Preceding unsigned comment added by T.crawford714 ( talk • contribs) 17:23, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
This is obviously an error, but I don't know which temperature is correct...
In March or April, the penguins start courtship,where they go to court and get married when the temperature can be as low as -40 °C (-40 °F) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Luv tomato ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC).
very good infomation #1 Site Wikipedia!!!
This section is a bit vague. Is it the temperature at which the penguins actually mate or the temperature at which they incubate over winter? I don't know about the former but they certainly go well below -40C in winter while incubating eggs, look up any coastal antarctic station and you will see winter temperatures below -50C. Mtpaley ( talk) 00:09, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
I just read this article, and i think its no longer "least concern", although im not sure what it is now, is it EN for endangered? http://www.enn.com/net.html?id=2035
Polygon 18:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I was just wondering why the conservation status was changed
back to what it was before? I 'fixed' it before I registered officially, and I checked my sources. I even left a link where it was supposed to be. Why was it changed back?
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The article currently repeats itself about the huddling to keep warm, mentioned in both behavio(u)r and breeding. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
There are some minor things, such as spacing around ref numbers, and I've fixed a few obvious bits. Generally needs a careful read through to check for consistency and logical flow from one sentence to the next. I've not checked references yet, and I'll give the whole thing a second read through when you are ready. Jimfbleak ( talk) 07:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Jimfbleak ( talk) 06:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Right then. input here what everyone feels is required. I took out some cultural refs which I couldn't ref and may be unable to. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 07:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Much appreciated guys...flightless (ROFL)....meaning looks not to be altered. Will get ref and trim images. thx for input. easy fixes apart from zoo headache Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
What do we think guys? Keep the upper one with adults and chicks for size comparison, or ditch it and use the one from further down the article with the two images? I slightly prefer the top one but appreciate different POV Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 20:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Every time I try to google search words including Emperor Penguin exhibit and Zoo, all these Zoo tycoon pages pop up ......Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 09:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
basal needs a disambig Randomblue ( talk) 16:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
I would like to suggest a bit of a change to this excellent article, the change leading to a clearer understanding by the reader of evolution as a process that is the explanation of how living things currently are, rather than as a goal-oriented process.
(Biologists know what they really mean when they use the words "to" and "for" as shortcuts, and have been using these words for years, but the general public may not be cognizant of the fact that, indeed they are just shortcuts that assume knowledge of evolution. And it looks like the majority of the population do have a misconceived notion of evolution as a goal-oriented process. So lets be more precise in our language to try to improve the general public's understanding of the process of evolution by its results)
The 1st change would be to substitute "for" with "enabling"; for example "with a streamlined body and wings stiffened and flattened into flippers for(sic) a marine lifestyle" be changed to "with a streamlined body and wings stiffened and flattened into flippers, enabling a marine lifestyle".
The other change: using wording that again more precisely reflects the understanding the process of evolution in replacing "to" with better terminology:
from "It has several adaptations to facilitate this" to "It has several adaptations that facilitate this"
from "haemoglobin to allow it to function" to "haemoglobin that allows it to function"
from "solid bones to reduce barotrauma" to "solid bones that reduce barotrauma"
from "Like all penguin species, it has a streamlined body to minimise drag while swimming" to "Like all penguin species, it has a streamlined body that minimises drag while swimming"
from "The tongue is equipped with rear-facing barbs to prevent prey from escaping" to "The tongue is equipped with rear-facing barbs that prevent prey from escaping"
from "and before old feathers are lost, to help reduce heat loss" to "and before old feathers are lost, which reduces heat loss"
And slightly different: from "It uses a complex set of calls that are critical to individual recognition between parents, offspring, and mates" to "a complex set of calls by an individual is recognized by its parents, offspring, and mates" - this change presents the facts to a reader, from which a logical thinker would come this conclusion on his/her own, rather than reading a conclusion from "authority." Individual conclusion from the evidence, instead of being told from an "authority" what that "authority" concludes.
As you can conclude from this missive, I want the processes and results of science to be presented in such clarity that creationists have as little to twist as possible.
Eddiethecat ( talk) 00:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Be careful to avoid OR and mis-quoting. I can see the problem, being the use of goal oriented language by those who do not subscribe to a goal oriented process, but if that is what they say it is difficult to change the language and avoid criticism. Of course, find a RS that states that this is simply a linguistic convenience and and you could drop that into an info box without having to trawl through making many many changes. There is also the minority of creationist (both biblical and ID) biologists to consider. When they use goal oriented language, that's how they mean it. 203.25.140.98 ( talk) 03:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Oops. wasn't logged in. LowKey ( talk) 03:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Remove "torrid" from cultural references and substitute "frigid" - Antarctica is anything but torrid (Brazil is torrid). —Preceding
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I have a project and I need some information about penguins I need to no what they eat there water shelter and light so I chose the Emperor penguins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.196.71.224 ( talk) 23:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Nevermind. Mbroderick271 ( talk) 01:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I always enjoy it when a non-video game article makes it to featured status. It's a breath of fresh air! Thanks Raul! Jackass110 ( talk) 01:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
There is an inconsistancy between the lead and the description. Lead states weight between 22 to 37 kg (48 to 82 lb), description states 22 to 45 kg (50–100 lb). The only source easily searchable states an average weight of 45 kg. Makes one wonder how this made it as a featured article. Arzel ( talk) 02:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Do Emperor penguins mingle at all with other penguin species? Do they try to drive them away when seen, as competitors and threats to the chicks? (The answer might belong in the section at the end that mentions Happy Feet, as the plot involves different penguin species ... having adventures and stuff.) Tempshill ( talk) 21:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello, I work on the french wikipedia. Does somebody know where is the second place where the Emperor penguin is kept on captivity. Ben23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.5.126.99 ( talk) 17:51, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Did some research because of my interest in the lost Emperor in New Zealand (nicknamed Happy Feet) Looks like there are now 3 other sites, The Nagoya Aquarium and Adventureland both in Japan and also the Laohutan Ocean Park in China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.23.152 ( talk) 19:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry that should say Adventure World in Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.23.152 ( talk) 20:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
In the section "Adaptations to pressure and low oxygen", we can read: However, it is unknown how the species avoids the effects of nitrogen-induced decompression sickness.
Effects of nitrogen-induced decompression sickness afflicts scuba divers, but, decompression sickness in a animal making pulmonar dives? I think is rare in human no scuba dives, and I never heard about decompression sickness in mammals or birds, included those who submerge to big depths. -- Furado ( talk) 21:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I think that statement is quite misleading. It seems to say that Emperor Penguins should get decompression sickness, while, like Furado metions, little is known about how it's possible to even get decompression sickness without breading underwater...-- Sebastien.Hubert ( talk) 14:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
In the lead and in the body, we say that the penguin can hold its breath for up to 18 minutes. We have a cite to back it up. In a picture caption, we say 20 minutes. We have a different cite to back it up. I favor eliminating the assertion in the caption as the 18-minute source is more detailed and explained. As an aside, the film March of the Penguins said 15 minutes.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 15:54, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
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Please remove "His trip is slightly shorter than it was originally, because the melting of ice in the summer gradually decreases the distance between the breeding site and the open sea". The males commence making these trips in early August, before the onset of spring. According to David Attenborough's 'Frozen Planet', currently being broadcast by the BBC, the distance from the breeding colony to the edge of the ice doubles between the time that the male and female penguins first journey to the breeding site to commence breeding, and the time that the females first return following the hatching of the offspring. The male's trip back to the sea follows the female's return; his trip is therefore significantly longer than it was originally. If the sentence is to remain, a confirmed citation needs to be included to corroborate it, given the contradictions it introduces into the article. However, the sentence is ambiguous, as it could alternatively be referring to the male's return trip to the breeding site following his first trip to the sea to after a winter spent incubating an egg. In this instance, the sentence remains inappropriate, as the males do not undertake only one trip per breeding season and most of those trips are not in the summer. Perhaps "His return trips are slightly shorter than his outgoing journeys." would be better, if this is the intended meaning, but requires a citation.
Re: nprice (talk) 21:49, 27 November 2011:
Early August in Antarctica is not "well-after [sic] spring is over"; in the southern hemisphere the winter solstice is on or near 21st June, and the spring equinox is on or near 23rd September, early August falling mid-way between these dates.
Whether or not the source we refer to is considered citable, it is likely to be accurate.
The statement is both ambiguous and misleading, as it implies firstly that the male's trips between the breeding grounds and the sea take place in the summer, whereas most of them do not, and secondly that the male's return to the sea is shorter than his original trip inland, when the opposite is the case. These implications are contradicted by other sources, including the remainder of the article and the wildlife documentary we have referred to. Given the apparent inaccuracy of the statement, marking the sentence as 'citation needed' is probably not sufficient; the sentence should be removed, or edited as suggested, including a 'citation needed' tag specifically for the modified and shortened version, to improve the accuracy of the article. Tssk1000 ( talk) 19:56, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Behaviour > Emperor Penguin swimming in the Melbourne Aquarium. This penguin is a King Penguin. Please remove the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edy12 ( talk • contribs) 23:18, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/11/no-one-had-ever-seen-this-colony-of-9000-penguins-until-last-month-here-are-the-first-pictures/ — FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp ( talk) 15:31, 13 January 2013 (UTC) — Nice pictures.
The UK's BBC have just broadcast a 3 part TV documentary, "Penguins - Spy in the Huddle" ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01460gm). Please can someone with more wiki-fu add/format it :-) 109.156.123.207 ( talk) 23:34, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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I would just like to add the wingspan to the description. Thepenguino ( talk) 22:49, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I've rewritten the numbers section of the article mainly based on this 2012 paper (which caught my attention at work today). It was cited before, but tacked on at the end in a very confusing fashion that suggested it reported a decline (which it doesn't). In doing so, I've removed some of the specific population counts for various locations, as these were often a couple of decades old and may no longer be accurate. This leaves the last paragraph - vaguely talking about a Woods Hole study - hanging without a cite; any idea where this came from?
It'd be good to have something on the Cape Crozier population counts - it grew several times over between the Scott expedition and the middle of the century - but I can't immediately find a source for it. I'll see if I can dig up this. Andrew Gray ( talk) 19:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
"The Emperor Penguin is perhaps best known for the sequence of journeys adults make each year in order to mate and to feed their offspring"
I think this is an absurd claim. The word "perhaps" indicates that even whoever wrote it was not really convinced it could be true. I strongly doubt that it is the one single thing that most people would know about the emperor penguin, and there is absolutely no way to verify such a claim even if someone did believe it was true. You can avoid all of these problems by simply stating the facts objectively - for example, "Adult emperor penguins make a sequence of journeys each year in order to mate and feed their offspring". 201.215.187.159 ( talk) 13:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no move. Current configuration seems in line with other related articles and with WikiProject guidelines. -- tariqabjotu 07:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Emperor Penguin → Emperor penguin – By far the most common way to refer to this bird in reliable sources is through sentence case. I am aware of WP:FAUNA saying that bird names should not follow sentence case; however, doing so would violate WP:RS, WP:AT and other policies. Check out this ngram. The blue line? That's sentence case. The red line is ALSO sentence case, just at the beginning of a sentence. The yellowish line is Title Case and is clearly not the one most used by reliable sources. So let's follow their lead and not capitalize the animal. I'm aware that this is a featured article, but that hasn't stopped other featured articles in the past from being moved (see Giant otter, Gray wolf, and probably others.) Again, the WP:GUIDELINE says that we need to capitalize all birds, but that's absolutely not what they are commonly or authoritatively called. Guidelines have exceptions and are subject to consensus. What do you think should be done here? Red Slash 09:31, 17 July 2013 (UTC)