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I think that the article would read better if the History section were placed first. BTW, great article! Gandydancer ( talk) 17:01, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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Commencing GAR for Elcor, Minnesota. I'll begin later today. Codyorb ( talk) 22:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
What a good job you have done with this article. IMO we are it -- if our generation doesn't record certain historical information it will be lost forever. Bit by bit it just crumbles to the point that it is impossible to put back together to pass on to our children. Looking forward to your next project! Gandydancer ( talk) 15:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Elcor is no longer a ghost town. By definition, a ghost town is a town that has been abandoned, but has a significant remaining structures. All structures of the town have been demolished and removed. The entire area of the town is now part of a larger surface mining operation. The article even states that the last remaining structure (a smokestack) was torn town in the 1970's. As such, the article should state that it is a former ghost town. ++ Arx Fortis ( talk) 01:23, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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Dan Turner's research is suspect at best, schlocky at worst, and has no place being cited in this article. The former citizens of Elcor deserve better. DrGregMN ( talk) 23:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with your reversion, but not because I disagree with your assessment of the resource. The question you have to ask is how much actual physical evidence is left to show that Elcor was once there. That it was once there, does not make it a ghost town, otherwise every piece of land where, at some time in the past there had been a settlement, could be categorised in this way. A Ghost town is a place where there is still significant evidence that there once was settlement there; the town has just been deserted. Normally, this does not include ancient cities like Pompeii. There is none of that left for Elcor. It is no longer a ghost town.-- Everlong Day ( talk) 09:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Maybe links to Elba, Corsica and Minorca would be in order? Although I'm not quite sure how to work that into the article. I guess someone might demand some proof that the mining company actually named their works after Mediterranean islands. Pity. -- BjKa ( talk) 09:52, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I have already had similar issues with User:BD2412 who wanted to replace the spelling of Minorca to Menorca per RM outcome. I advised him that the street as platted and one of the mines as named by Don H. Bacon was spelled Minorca at that time in history. His response was to unlink Minorca since he felt there was no reason supported by any source in the article to link to the Island of "Menorca" (he was wrong). My response to him is essentially the same to you, that you have to look at things in the historical context of the article. The store was called the Elcor Mercantile; the store in the adjacent city of Gilbert was the Saari, Campbell and Kraker Mercantile. Not stated in the article, but in many of the references sourced, residents of Elcor would gather at the "Merc" (proper noun). I have difficulty believing even a casual reader of the article cannot make the connection. Revisionist history has no place on Wikipedia. I'll let it stand for now; don't be surprised if I edit it later. DrGregMN ( talk) 15:40, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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I think that the article would read better if the History section were placed first. BTW, great article! Gandydancer ( talk) 17:01, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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Commencing GAR for Elcor, Minnesota. I'll begin later today. Codyorb ( talk) 22:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
What a good job you have done with this article. IMO we are it -- if our generation doesn't record certain historical information it will be lost forever. Bit by bit it just crumbles to the point that it is impossible to put back together to pass on to our children. Looking forward to your next project! Gandydancer ( talk) 15:53, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Elcor is no longer a ghost town. By definition, a ghost town is a town that has been abandoned, but has a significant remaining structures. All structures of the town have been demolished and removed. The entire area of the town is now part of a larger surface mining operation. The article even states that the last remaining structure (a smokestack) was torn town in the 1970's. As such, the article should state that it is a former ghost town. ++ Arx Fortis ( talk) 01:23, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Further errata:
Dan Turner's research is suspect at best, schlocky at worst, and has no place being cited in this article. The former citizens of Elcor deserve better. DrGregMN ( talk) 23:47, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with your reversion, but not because I disagree with your assessment of the resource. The question you have to ask is how much actual physical evidence is left to show that Elcor was once there. That it was once there, does not make it a ghost town, otherwise every piece of land where, at some time in the past there had been a settlement, could be categorised in this way. A Ghost town is a place where there is still significant evidence that there once was settlement there; the town has just been deserted. Normally, this does not include ancient cities like Pompeii. There is none of that left for Elcor. It is no longer a ghost town.-- Everlong Day ( talk) 09:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Maybe links to Elba, Corsica and Minorca would be in order? Although I'm not quite sure how to work that into the article. I guess someone might demand some proof that the mining company actually named their works after Mediterranean islands. Pity. -- BjKa ( talk) 09:52, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
I have already had similar issues with User:BD2412 who wanted to replace the spelling of Minorca to Menorca per RM outcome. I advised him that the street as platted and one of the mines as named by Don H. Bacon was spelled Minorca at that time in history. His response was to unlink Minorca since he felt there was no reason supported by any source in the article to link to the Island of "Menorca" (he was wrong). My response to him is essentially the same to you, that you have to look at things in the historical context of the article. The store was called the Elcor Mercantile; the store in the adjacent city of Gilbert was the Saari, Campbell and Kraker Mercantile. Not stated in the article, but in many of the references sourced, residents of Elcor would gather at the "Merc" (proper noun). I have difficulty believing even a casual reader of the article cannot make the connection. Revisionist history has no place on Wikipedia. I'll let it stand for now; don't be surprised if I edit it later. DrGregMN ( talk) 15:40, 18 March 2018 (UTC)