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There is no consensus on whether the lab leak theory is a "conspiracy theory" or a "minority scientific viewpoint". (
RfC, February 2021)
There is consensus against defining "disease and pandemic origins" (broadly speaking) as a form of biomedical information for the purpose of
WP:MEDRS. However, information that already fits into
biomedical information remains classified as such, even if it relates to disease and pandemic origins (e.g. genome sequences, symptom descriptions, phylogenetic trees). (
RfC, May 2021)
In multiple prior non-RFC discussions about manuscripts authored by Rossana Segreto and/or Yuri Deigin, editors have found the sources to be
unreliable. Specifically, editors were not convinced by the credentials of the authors, and concerns were raised with the editorial oversight of the BioEssays "Problems & Paradigms" series. (
Jan 2021,
Jan 2021,
Jan 2021,
Feb 2021,
June 2021, ...)
The
March 2021 WHO report on the origins of SARS-CoV-2 should be referred to as the "WHO-convened report" or "WHO-convened study" on first usage in article prose, and may be abbreviated as "WHO report" or "WHO study" thereafter. (
RfC, June 2021)
The scientific consensus (and the Frutos et al. sources (
[1][2]) which support it), which dismisses the lab leak, should not be described as "based in part on Shi [Zhengli]'s emailed answers." (
RfC, December 2021)
List of good sources with good coverage to help expand. Not necessarily for inclusion but just for consideration. Preferably not articles that just discuss a single quote/press conference. The long-style reporting would be even better. Feel free to edit directly to add to the list.
ProcrastinatingReader (
talk)
17:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Holmes, Edward C.; Goldstein, Stephen A.; Rasmussen, Angela L.; Robertson, David L.; Crits-Christoph, Alexander; Wertheim, Joel O.; Anthony, Simon J.; Barclay, Wendy S.; Boni, Maciej F.; Doherty, Peter C.; Farrar, Jeremy; Geoghegan, Jemma L.; Jiang, Xiaowei; Leibowitz, Julian L.; Neil, Stuart J.D.; Skern, Tim; Weiss, Susan R.; Worobey, Michael; Andersen, Kristian G.; Garry, Robert F.; Rambaut, Andrew (August 2021).
"The Origins of SARS-CoV-2: A Critical Review". Cell. 184 (19): 4848–4856.
doi:
10.1016/j.cell.2021.08.017.
PMID34480864.
Zhang, Yong-Zhen; Holmes, Edward C. (April 2020). "A Genomic Perspective on the Origin and Emergence of SARS-CoV-2". Cell. 181 (2): 223–227.
doi:
10.1016/j.cell.2020.03.035.
PMID32220310.
Testimony of John Radcliffe, US Director of National Intelligence 2020-2021, House Hearing on the Origins of COVID-19, Transcript:
[3]; C-Span, 18 April 2024, 16.37mins
[4]
I propose that we move all the sentences referring to the DARPA grant and the WIV proposed experiments from the lead to the body. Also, let's try to stick to the better sources on this, instead of the intercept we can use the
New York Times.
Forich (
talk)
15:51, 23 October 2021 (UTC)reply
This is the
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EcoHealth Alliance article. This is
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Organizations, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Organizations on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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There is no consensus on whether the lab leak theory is a "conspiracy theory" or a "minority scientific viewpoint". (
RfC, February 2021)
There is consensus against defining "disease and pandemic origins" (broadly speaking) as a form of biomedical information for the purpose of
WP:MEDRS. However, information that already fits into
biomedical information remains classified as such, even if it relates to disease and pandemic origins (e.g. genome sequences, symptom descriptions, phylogenetic trees). (
RfC, May 2021)
In multiple prior non-RFC discussions about manuscripts authored by Rossana Segreto and/or Yuri Deigin, editors have found the sources to be
unreliable. Specifically, editors were not convinced by the credentials of the authors, and concerns were raised with the editorial oversight of the BioEssays "Problems & Paradigms" series. (
Jan 2021,
Jan 2021,
Jan 2021,
Feb 2021,
June 2021, ...)
The
March 2021 WHO report on the origins of SARS-CoV-2 should be referred to as the "WHO-convened report" or "WHO-convened study" on first usage in article prose, and may be abbreviated as "WHO report" or "WHO study" thereafter. (
RfC, June 2021)
The scientific consensus (and the Frutos et al. sources (
[1][2]) which support it), which dismisses the lab leak, should not be described as "based in part on Shi [Zhengli]'s emailed answers." (
RfC, December 2021)
List of good sources with good coverage to help expand. Not necessarily for inclusion but just for consideration. Preferably not articles that just discuss a single quote/press conference. The long-style reporting would be even better. Feel free to edit directly to add to the list.
ProcrastinatingReader (
talk)
17:39, 18 July 2021 (UTC)reply
Holmes, Edward C.; Goldstein, Stephen A.; Rasmussen, Angela L.; Robertson, David L.; Crits-Christoph, Alexander; Wertheim, Joel O.; Anthony, Simon J.; Barclay, Wendy S.; Boni, Maciej F.; Doherty, Peter C.; Farrar, Jeremy; Geoghegan, Jemma L.; Jiang, Xiaowei; Leibowitz, Julian L.; Neil, Stuart J.D.; Skern, Tim; Weiss, Susan R.; Worobey, Michael; Andersen, Kristian G.; Garry, Robert F.; Rambaut, Andrew (August 2021).
"The Origins of SARS-CoV-2: A Critical Review". Cell. 184 (19): 4848–4856.
doi:
10.1016/j.cell.2021.08.017.
PMID34480864.
Zhang, Yong-Zhen; Holmes, Edward C. (April 2020). "A Genomic Perspective on the Origin and Emergence of SARS-CoV-2". Cell. 181 (2): 223–227.
doi:
10.1016/j.cell.2020.03.035.
PMID32220310.
Testimony of John Radcliffe, US Director of National Intelligence 2020-2021, House Hearing on the Origins of COVID-19, Transcript:
[3]; C-Span, 18 April 2024, 16.37mins
[4]
I propose that we move all the sentences referring to the DARPA grant and the WIV proposed experiments from the lead to the body. Also, let's try to stick to the better sources on this, instead of the intercept we can use the
New York Times.
Forich (
talk)
15:51, 23 October 2021 (UTC)reply