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This reference, Connecting Histories in Afghanistan: Market Relations and State Formation on a Colonial Frontier by Shah Mahmoud Hanifi [1], p185; "Timur Shah transferred the Durrani capital from Qandahar in 1775-76. Kabul and Peshawar then shared time as the dual Durrani capital cities, the former during the summer and the latter during the winter season.", checks out. It can be viewed via amazon.com(if you have an account). This reference and the information "Peshawar(1776–1818; the secondary, winter capital)", should be restored. -- Defensor Ursa 18:19, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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Durrani Empire →
Afghan Empire – It was known as Afghan Empire, Afghanistan, Afghan Kingdom, Afghan monarchy, emirate of Afghanistan, kingdom of Afghanistan, and kingdom of Kabul, and ruled by the
Durrani dynasty and
Barakzai dynasty. I don't know who called it Durrani Empire, even Britannica puts it as the "last Afghan empire".
[2] Others too.
[3] --
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English spellings of the name "Durrani" vary. It may occur in the literature as Dooraunee, Douranee, Dourraunnee, etc. Other spellings which attempt to transliterate the Pashto name are Dorrani, Durani, Durrani. The Pashtun dynasty covered modern Afghanistan, northeastern Iran, the Kashmir region, Pakistan, and northwestern India. The Durrani Empire is considered the foundation of modern Afghanistan and Ahmad Shah known as the Father of Afghanistan who adopted the name "Dorrani" or "Durrani" meaning "pearl of the pearls". Mountstuart Elphinstone (1779-1859) was a British administrator, statesman and historian who became the Governor of Bombay. He wrote a definitive history on the Durrani Empire, "An account of the kingdom of Caubul, and its dependencies in Persia, Tartary and India : comprising a view of the Afghaun nation and a history of the Dooraunee monarchy," 1815. Appendix A of this work, "History of Caubal from the foundation of Dooraunee monarchy," provides biographical and character information on the Durrani monarchs. Consignee ( talk) 19:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC) [1] [2] [3]
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Neither of the sources quoted so much as mentions the size of the Durrani empire in relation to the Ottoman Empire. In fact, no mention of the Ottoman Empire appears in either. In any case, the statement that the Durrani realm was the second largest contemporary Muslim empire is contentious, given the size of Persia (also an empire) and the Omani Sultanate at that time. I have therefore removed this very dubious claim, especially in view of the short extent of time during which Ahmad Shah's realm was at its greatest extent. The question should be discussed here, and a valid source provided, before such a statement is repeated. Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 06:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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Durrani khurasan Has recently been making major changes to this article, with edit summaries along the lines of "I have ancient knowledge" and "I know this is true". These are not valid reasons to change the article. I invite @ Durrani khurasan: to discuss the matter here, and to provide the sources from which this ancient knowledge is drawn. If they are valid, we can consider making the changes. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 13:11, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
The map is incorrect. It doesnt show the full size of empire, like sistan etc. I think this one is better detailed. http://www.barmazid.com/2014/03/map-of-durrani-empire-at-its-peak-1761_28.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:7845:9593:DA67:5919 ( talk) 22:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
PLEASE CHANGE MAP! I have already said that the map is not historically correct please change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:A811:7B5F:8D73:D5BC ( talk) 15:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
this map is not true. khorasan was not a part of their Territory. khorasan was ruled by Afshar dynasty. in 1769, Ahmad shah camped to Khorasan but he couldn't conquer mashhad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimazandyf ( talk • contribs) 11:03, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
This here is the most accurate and perfect map with dates and time line.
https://alchetron.com/Durrani-Empire#demo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:B88F:9C6D:8AEE:6A9F ( talk) 16:47, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
I don't think that is a problem, (if fair use is applied) and in this case it is fair use. You can go ahead and change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:3DED:A748:266B:F86C ( talk) 20:49, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Khorasan was ruled by afshar dynasty and they couldn't Conquer Mashhad. the khorasan of iran was a buffer between zand empire and afghans.. do you understand?! or not?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimazandyf ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello LouisAragonI have seen you reverting the map of the Durrani Empire which I added calling it "not an improvement", adding a tertiary source(Iranica) and removing all the books I have cited. First of all I am not implying Iranica to be a bad source, it's completely the opposite, however it is a fact that its a tertiary source. Nonetheless this does not mean we should completely ignore other authentic sources and authors like Jonathan L Lee. But even more important is the point that the source from Iranica itself is contradicting the map you want to revert to itself. The previous "blue" map does not include the rule over Sistan which sources were added for. But much more importantly which was also the main point in trying to create a new more accurate map was the expansion towards India. The “blue” map does not include Kashmir, where persicution of the Durranis under their rule is literally documented(source was also mentioned) Indian Punjab, Haryana(Panipat), all the territories north of Sirhind and the installation of Shah Alam as puppet ruler of Delhi. Those territories were important parts of the empire and the rule and conquest over them is mentioned very detailed in all the sources I have added [1] [2] for the map, even on Iranica. Best regards Xerxes931
HistoryofIran I would like to add you too here. The article on Iranica which is roughly mentioning the Durrani empire does contradict your map, "his empire extended from the Āmū Daryā (Bactria and Badaḵšān annexed in 1164/1751) to the Oman Sea, and from Khorasan (where Šāhroḵ, grandson of Nāder Shah, became his vassal in 1162/1749) to the Ganges plain (fall of Delhi, 1170/1757). For several decades the Dorrānī empire was the dominating regional power. Its victory over the strong army of the Maratha confederation at Panipat (1174/1761) even played a decisive historical role, by giving the British enough time to consolidate the foothold they had gained in Bengal at the battle of Plassey (1170/1757)." Delhi and Panipat are not included in your map. Also the previous map of you is literally going according to modern borders for the western, southwestern and eastern parts which, I hopefully don't have to explain why, is always the wrong way to go.
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I think this map is the best and most accurate description of durrani empire, (which mentions dates and size). https://alchetron.com/Durrani-Empire The current map is not accurate and totally outdated. Hope something is done soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:F4E8:F47B:ABC1:B18E ( talk) 20:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
All of them are wrong Durrani didn't even Control the entirity of Pakistan In his own letter Ather the battle of panipat He mentions that He wants peace with the Marathas Hence they can keep their territories Back The only territories Durrani ever had In the subcontinent were Afghanistan and some border parts of Pakistan and even that is debetable Bhima Palavīṉamāṉa ( talk) 15:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
What do people think about the current map of the Durrani Empire: File:Durrani_Empire_1747_1862_AD.png being exchanged for this one: File:The_Durrani_Empire_at_its_greatest_Extent_2.png. Xerxes931 ( talk) 22:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
The current map is drawn along modern borders, which is in my opinion never a good attempt and the map is based on a tertiary source solely which is only briefly mentioning the subject of this empire. It also lacks details about the capitals, the winter capital is not even mentioned on it. And based on thid sources [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] it also lacks some regions which I added on the purple map, which I also suggested for replacing the current one. Also the tertiary source which is used to support the current map is rather contradicting it here [6] "his empire extended from the Āmū Daryā (Bactria and Badaḵšān annexed in 1164/1751) to the Oman Sea, and from Khorasan (where Šāhroḵ, grandson of Nāder Shah, became his vassal in 1162/1749) to the Ganges plain (fall of Delhi, 1170/1757)." The current map does not include Delhi while the new one suggested by me does(Edit: as some were complaining about my map being not focused enough on the region I updated it a bit, added a few more cities and also highlighted the vassals). On the other side the creator of the first map which is User:HistoryofIran thinks that the aesthetics of his map are by far better than the one I created and that my map does not show Europe and Africa. As the creator of the current map does not want to agree on this subject on the Talk page, I want to know your opinion on this. Xerxes931 ( talk) 22:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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It is a genral fact that the Durranis are Pashtuns. Everyone knows that the Durranis are a Pashtun tribe..Infact they are the most powerful and influental Pashtun tribe to this day.
Ahmed shah Durrani, was a pashtun, and spoke Pashto, sources also say the same thing. Yawn please dont change the status of the pashto language to poetry and replace it with persian. Infact Pashto was used as poery and the the language of the durranis
Id like your opinions before i edit it yo make it more accurate Pashtunfacts ( talk) 14:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
( talk) Technically we have sources of the Durrani court in Kandahar calling themselves Iranian but not any of them calling themselves Afghan/Pashtun... However they were described by others as Afghans(Pashtuns) and the Abdali tribe is obviously a Pashtun one, that however doesn’t stand in contradiction with them speaking Persian or considering themselves Iranian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xerxes931 ( talk • contribs) 13:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
hello I would like to speak concerned the information on the English protectorate on the Durrani empire under the reign of Shah Shuja Durrani firstly there are no sources secondly a protectorate must be under an official statues like the treaty of Gandamak which put the emirate of afghanistan under protected state or so like morocco with france the durrani empire has nothing to formalize with the british empire and thirdly Shah shuja took power with the help of the english and not under english authority the english wanted an allied government and puppet and also its the only wikipedia page to which I see this questionable information appearing AfghansPashtun ( talk) 20:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Added Battle of Peshwar Battle of attock Battle of lahore I have copied Articles from these pages respectively
References are given In each article Bhima Palavīṉamāṉa ( talk) 15:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Battle of attock Battle of Peshawar Battle of Lahore Please stop removing these sections
But these are important battles Which are worth mentioning
The entire history of battles during durrani s power should be mentioned Bhima Palavīṉamāṉa ( talk) 14:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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@ Noorullah21; even at peak of its power the dynasty didn't controlled Gilgit-Baltistan, north of province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa including Chitral and Kohistan. Similarly, in Sindh (ruled by Kalhora Dynasty) and Khanate of Kalat, Durranis didn't have direct control. If you have sources saying anything else, mention them otherwise it will be wrong to write it as countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of much of Pakistan. Sutyarashi ( talk) 15:18, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
@Sutyarashi The Durranis held all of these territories and I will explain first before I list my sources.
The Khanate of Kalat and Sindh were both under Durrani Suzerainty, they were both generally accepted to be directly ruled by them as well, especially Sindh whose ties grew even stronger during the Talpur-Kalhora civil wars.
The Durranis also did own Kohistan and Chitral, they even fought in Kohistan multiple times during civil war, and especially in later Dost Mohammad’s campaigns.
So now, I will list the sources.
[8] - Sindh Source discussing up to Afghan rule and suzerainty. I believe also goes in about Kalat
Jonathan Lee’s source, goes on about everything, Kohistan, Kalat, Durrani Rule, Sindh too. [9]
[10] Goes over Kalat, and more.
These are the sources well used and proverbed in what you might be looking for, the Durranis not only ruled these territories, and had suzerainty over a lot of them.
I can get you the page numbers later, but not right now since I am busy, but here are the books for now and sources which you can dive into yourself to research, they do have legend settings on certain starting pages, so you can look through and find the page you are looking for, hope this helps. Noorullah21 ( talk) 15:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Sources in the article also mention their spanning of these territories, including all of Pakistan. Some more sources in general that could help;
State and Tribe in Nineteenth Century Afghanistan The Reign of Amir Dost Muhammad Khan (1826-1863), Studies In Later Mughal History Of The Punjab 1707 To 1793.
Noorullah21 ( talk) 15:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
The Afghans also did not lose Gilgit (and the Kashmir region in general) until following the Sadozai Monarchies collapse into civil war, and the Battle of Shopian Noorullah21 ( talk) 15:54, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
It was never the flag of the Durrani Empire and the hyperlink which it's under literally proves that, it has no source either. It's been elaborated here multiple times before. 97.125.139.119 ( talk) 00:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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This reference, Connecting Histories in Afghanistan: Market Relations and State Formation on a Colonial Frontier by Shah Mahmoud Hanifi [1], p185; "Timur Shah transferred the Durrani capital from Qandahar in 1775-76. Kabul and Peshawar then shared time as the dual Durrani capital cities, the former during the summer and the latter during the winter season.", checks out. It can be viewed via amazon.com(if you have an account). This reference and the information "Peshawar(1776–1818; the secondary, winter capital)", should be restored. -- Defensor Ursa 18:19, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline ( talk) 16:54, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Durrani Empire →
Afghan Empire – It was known as Afghan Empire, Afghanistan, Afghan Kingdom, Afghan monarchy, emirate of Afghanistan, kingdom of Afghanistan, and kingdom of Kabul, and ruled by the
Durrani dynasty and
Barakzai dynasty. I don't know who called it Durrani Empire, even Britannica puts it as the "last Afghan empire".
[2] Others too.
[3] --
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English spellings of the name "Durrani" vary. It may occur in the literature as Dooraunee, Douranee, Dourraunnee, etc. Other spellings which attempt to transliterate the Pashto name are Dorrani, Durani, Durrani. The Pashtun dynasty covered modern Afghanistan, northeastern Iran, the Kashmir region, Pakistan, and northwestern India. The Durrani Empire is considered the foundation of modern Afghanistan and Ahmad Shah known as the Father of Afghanistan who adopted the name "Dorrani" or "Durrani" meaning "pearl of the pearls". Mountstuart Elphinstone (1779-1859) was a British administrator, statesman and historian who became the Governor of Bombay. He wrote a definitive history on the Durrani Empire, "An account of the kingdom of Caubul, and its dependencies in Persia, Tartary and India : comprising a view of the Afghaun nation and a history of the Dooraunee monarchy," 1815. Appendix A of this work, "History of Caubal from the foundation of Dooraunee monarchy," provides biographical and character information on the Durrani monarchs. Consignee ( talk) 19:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC) [1] [2] [3]
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Neither of the sources quoted so much as mentions the size of the Durrani empire in relation to the Ottoman Empire. In fact, no mention of the Ottoman Empire appears in either. In any case, the statement that the Durrani realm was the second largest contemporary Muslim empire is contentious, given the size of Persia (also an empire) and the Omani Sultanate at that time. I have therefore removed this very dubious claim, especially in view of the short extent of time during which Ahmad Shah's realm was at its greatest extent. The question should be discussed here, and a valid source provided, before such a statement is repeated. Mzilikazi1939 ( talk) 06:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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Durrani khurasan Has recently been making major changes to this article, with edit summaries along the lines of "I have ancient knowledge" and "I know this is true". These are not valid reasons to change the article. I invite @ Durrani khurasan: to discuss the matter here, and to provide the sources from which this ancient knowledge is drawn. If they are valid, we can consider making the changes. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 13:11, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
The map is incorrect. It doesnt show the full size of empire, like sistan etc. I think this one is better detailed. http://www.barmazid.com/2014/03/map-of-durrani-empire-at-its-peak-1761_28.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:7845:9593:DA67:5919 ( talk) 22:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
PLEASE CHANGE MAP! I have already said that the map is not historically correct please change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:A811:7B5F:8D73:D5BC ( talk) 15:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
this map is not true. khorasan was not a part of their Territory. khorasan was ruled by Afshar dynasty. in 1769, Ahmad shah camped to Khorasan but he couldn't conquer mashhad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimazandyf ( talk • contribs) 11:03, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
This here is the most accurate and perfect map with dates and time line.
https://alchetron.com/Durrani-Empire#demo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:B88F:9C6D:8AEE:6A9F ( talk) 16:47, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
I don't think that is a problem, (if fair use is applied) and in this case it is fair use. You can go ahead and change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:3DED:A748:266B:F86C ( talk) 20:49, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Khorasan was ruled by afshar dynasty and they couldn't Conquer Mashhad. the khorasan of iran was a buffer between zand empire and afghans.. do you understand?! or not?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimazandyf ( talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello LouisAragonI have seen you reverting the map of the Durrani Empire which I added calling it "not an improvement", adding a tertiary source(Iranica) and removing all the books I have cited. First of all I am not implying Iranica to be a bad source, it's completely the opposite, however it is a fact that its a tertiary source. Nonetheless this does not mean we should completely ignore other authentic sources and authors like Jonathan L Lee. But even more important is the point that the source from Iranica itself is contradicting the map you want to revert to itself. The previous "blue" map does not include the rule over Sistan which sources were added for. But much more importantly which was also the main point in trying to create a new more accurate map was the expansion towards India. The “blue” map does not include Kashmir, where persicution of the Durranis under their rule is literally documented(source was also mentioned) Indian Punjab, Haryana(Panipat), all the territories north of Sirhind and the installation of Shah Alam as puppet ruler of Delhi. Those territories were important parts of the empire and the rule and conquest over them is mentioned very detailed in all the sources I have added [1] [2] for the map, even on Iranica. Best regards Xerxes931
HistoryofIran I would like to add you too here. The article on Iranica which is roughly mentioning the Durrani empire does contradict your map, "his empire extended from the Āmū Daryā (Bactria and Badaḵšān annexed in 1164/1751) to the Oman Sea, and from Khorasan (where Šāhroḵ, grandson of Nāder Shah, became his vassal in 1162/1749) to the Ganges plain (fall of Delhi, 1170/1757). For several decades the Dorrānī empire was the dominating regional power. Its victory over the strong army of the Maratha confederation at Panipat (1174/1761) even played a decisive historical role, by giving the British enough time to consolidate the foothold they had gained in Bengal at the battle of Plassey (1170/1757)." Delhi and Panipat are not included in your map. Also the previous map of you is literally going according to modern borders for the western, southwestern and eastern parts which, I hopefully don't have to explain why, is always the wrong way to go.
References
I think this map is the best and most accurate description of durrani empire, (which mentions dates and size). https://alchetron.com/Durrani-Empire The current map is not accurate and totally outdated. Hope something is done soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:F4E8:F47B:ABC1:B18E ( talk) 20:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
All of them are wrong Durrani didn't even Control the entirity of Pakistan In his own letter Ather the battle of panipat He mentions that He wants peace with the Marathas Hence they can keep their territories Back The only territories Durrani ever had In the subcontinent were Afghanistan and some border parts of Pakistan and even that is debetable Bhima Palavīṉamāṉa ( talk) 15:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
What do people think about the current map of the Durrani Empire: File:Durrani_Empire_1747_1862_AD.png being exchanged for this one: File:The_Durrani_Empire_at_its_greatest_Extent_2.png. Xerxes931 ( talk) 22:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
The current map is drawn along modern borders, which is in my opinion never a good attempt and the map is based on a tertiary source solely which is only briefly mentioning the subject of this empire. It also lacks details about the capitals, the winter capital is not even mentioned on it. And based on thid sources [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] it also lacks some regions which I added on the purple map, which I also suggested for replacing the current one. Also the tertiary source which is used to support the current map is rather contradicting it here [6] "his empire extended from the Āmū Daryā (Bactria and Badaḵšān annexed in 1164/1751) to the Oman Sea, and from Khorasan (where Šāhroḵ, grandson of Nāder Shah, became his vassal in 1162/1749) to the Ganges plain (fall of Delhi, 1170/1757)." The current map does not include Delhi while the new one suggested by me does(Edit: as some were complaining about my map being not focused enough on the region I updated it a bit, added a few more cities and also highlighted the vassals). On the other side the creator of the first map which is User:HistoryofIran thinks that the aesthetics of his map are by far better than the one I created and that my map does not show Europe and Africa. As the creator of the current map does not want to agree on this subject on the Talk page, I want to know your opinion on this. Xerxes931 ( talk) 22:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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It is a genral fact that the Durranis are Pashtuns. Everyone knows that the Durranis are a Pashtun tribe..Infact they are the most powerful and influental Pashtun tribe to this day.
Ahmed shah Durrani, was a pashtun, and spoke Pashto, sources also say the same thing. Yawn please dont change the status of the pashto language to poetry and replace it with persian. Infact Pashto was used as poery and the the language of the durranis
Id like your opinions before i edit it yo make it more accurate Pashtunfacts ( talk) 14:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
( talk) Technically we have sources of the Durrani court in Kandahar calling themselves Iranian but not any of them calling themselves Afghan/Pashtun... However they were described by others as Afghans(Pashtuns) and the Abdali tribe is obviously a Pashtun one, that however doesn’t stand in contradiction with them speaking Persian or considering themselves Iranian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xerxes931 ( talk • contribs) 13:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
hello I would like to speak concerned the information on the English protectorate on the Durrani empire under the reign of Shah Shuja Durrani firstly there are no sources secondly a protectorate must be under an official statues like the treaty of Gandamak which put the emirate of afghanistan under protected state or so like morocco with france the durrani empire has nothing to formalize with the british empire and thirdly Shah shuja took power with the help of the english and not under english authority the english wanted an allied government and puppet and also its the only wikipedia page to which I see this questionable information appearing AfghansPashtun ( talk) 20:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Added Battle of Peshwar Battle of attock Battle of lahore I have copied Articles from these pages respectively
References are given In each article Bhima Palavīṉamāṉa ( talk) 15:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Battle of attock Battle of Peshawar Battle of Lahore Please stop removing these sections
But these are important battles Which are worth mentioning
The entire history of battles during durrani s power should be mentioned Bhima Palavīṉamāṉa ( talk) 14:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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@ Noorullah21; even at peak of its power the dynasty didn't controlled Gilgit-Baltistan, north of province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa including Chitral and Kohistan. Similarly, in Sindh (ruled by Kalhora Dynasty) and Khanate of Kalat, Durranis didn't have direct control. If you have sources saying anything else, mention them otherwise it will be wrong to write it as countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of much of Pakistan. Sutyarashi ( talk) 15:18, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
@Sutyarashi The Durranis held all of these territories and I will explain first before I list my sources.
The Khanate of Kalat and Sindh were both under Durrani Suzerainty, they were both generally accepted to be directly ruled by them as well, especially Sindh whose ties grew even stronger during the Talpur-Kalhora civil wars.
The Durranis also did own Kohistan and Chitral, they even fought in Kohistan multiple times during civil war, and especially in later Dost Mohammad’s campaigns.
So now, I will list the sources.
[8] - Sindh Source discussing up to Afghan rule and suzerainty. I believe also goes in about Kalat
Jonathan Lee’s source, goes on about everything, Kohistan, Kalat, Durrani Rule, Sindh too. [9]
[10] Goes over Kalat, and more.
These are the sources well used and proverbed in what you might be looking for, the Durranis not only ruled these territories, and had suzerainty over a lot of them.
I can get you the page numbers later, but not right now since I am busy, but here are the books for now and sources which you can dive into yourself to research, they do have legend settings on certain starting pages, so you can look through and find the page you are looking for, hope this helps. Noorullah21 ( talk) 15:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Sources in the article also mention their spanning of these territories, including all of Pakistan. Some more sources in general that could help;
State and Tribe in Nineteenth Century Afghanistan The Reign of Amir Dost Muhammad Khan (1826-1863), Studies In Later Mughal History Of The Punjab 1707 To 1793.
Noorullah21 ( talk) 15:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
The Afghans also did not lose Gilgit (and the Kashmir region in general) until following the Sadozai Monarchies collapse into civil war, and the Battle of Shopian Noorullah21 ( talk) 15:54, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
It was never the flag of the Durrani Empire and the hyperlink which it's under literally proves that, it has no source either. It's been elaborated here multiple times before. 97.125.139.119 ( talk) 00:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)