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From what’s currently in the article, only one critic has compared this song to Swift and Lorde. This does not call for inclusion of pictures that take up more space than the comparison itself - WP:UNDUE. It’s preferable to opt for pictures of people involved in the song's creation instead.— N Ø 18:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it stylized in all lowercase? Where? Why is it not written in this way anywhere in the article e.g. in "Commercial Performance" section. The title should be represented as it is?
This parenthetical is very prominent in the article and feels awkward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.153.126 ( talk) 01:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
We do not simply decorate articles with images. MOS:IMAGE RELEVANCE states "Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative." While "a dozen publications have reported this" we do not need to see images of two artists to understand the concept. The prose are sufficient. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 17:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
From what I can tell, the title of the song is styled "drivers license" on the official YouTube video and the streaming service Spotify, though reputable sources like New York Times and Rolling Stone use "Drivers License" like the article.
I think including the official style (with sources) in the lead would be easier to see visually for readers and be faithful to the actual song; there have also been other edits and comments here with confusion about it. My initial edit got reverted, so I thought I'd post here.
Current: "Drivers License" (stylized in all lowercase) is the debut
Proposal: "Drivers License" (styled drivers license) is the debut
Thoughts? Fredlesaltique ( talk) 02:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
"Drivers License" (stylized in all lowercase as "drivers license"). D🐶ggy54321 ( let's chat!) 16:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I saw the citation was removed, is there a reason for doing so? Fredlesaltique ( talk) 01:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I think Lana Del Rey should be mentioned considering Taylor Swift (Esp. her music from last year) was virtually based on Lana's music, lyrics & vocal style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.159.96.59 ( talk) 15:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
In the section "Commentary and impact" appears the following:
The New York Times writer Joe Coscarelli wrote that the song was spurred not only by its quality, but also the gossips surrounding it, paired with the label's marketing plan, and support from celebrities like Swift and
Charli D'Amelio. He noted the autobiographical song bolstered tabloids and listeners to "piece together its real-life parallels", while TikTok videos lead to social media posts, "which led to streams, which led to news articles, and back around again", generating an "unbeatable" feedback loop. Coscarelli added that, similar to
Britney Spears,
Justin Timberlake,
Christina Aguilera,
Miley Cyrus,
Demi Lovato, and
Selena Gomez, Rodrigo took "her experiences within the Disney machine and attempted to translate them for a broader, more adult audience".
[1]
An IP (or group of IPs) has several times replaced the name Demi Lovato with Bridgit Mendler with no explanation ... and despite this being reverted back to Lovato, I have a feeling they will continue this disruption ad nauseam. My question is simply (without my needing to register an account at The New York Times): Is Mendler mentioned at all in the context of what is stated above? MPFitz1968 ( talk) 07:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
References
The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:SNOW. ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 02:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Drivers License (song) → Drivers License – "Drivers License" currently redirects here, current title is unnecessary disambiguation. Some may suggest that title should redirect to Drivers licence despite the fact this article is likely the primary topic for this search term. Please discuss below. Sean Stephens ( talk) 08:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Olivia Rodrigo has an RFC over whether Rodrigo should be called a singer-songwriter in the article, instead of a singer and a songwriter. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. BawinV ( talk) 14:39, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Twice now, IPs have removed this image without a valid reason for removal [2] [3]. Unless there's a copyright concern/violation (none has been brought up at the image file), I see no reason at this time for its removal, but I'll leave it to consenus to determine this. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 20:32, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
While the information in the section "Impact and Legacy" is coherent and well-sourced, almost all of it would be better placed under "Reception" rather than having its own section. It doesn't describe any impact it might have had (presumably because it's too new to have had any lasting impact), and it certainly doesn't describe any kind of legacy, which makes sense given that it's a new song. Silly barely begins to describe it. 68.60.202.174 ( talk) 22:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Drivers License and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 14#Drivers License until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 03:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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From what’s currently in the article, only one critic has compared this song to Swift and Lorde. This does not call for inclusion of pictures that take up more space than the comparison itself - WP:UNDUE. It’s preferable to opt for pictures of people involved in the song's creation instead.— N Ø 18:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it stylized in all lowercase? Where? Why is it not written in this way anywhere in the article e.g. in "Commercial Performance" section. The title should be represented as it is?
This parenthetical is very prominent in the article and feels awkward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.153.126 ( talk) 01:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
We do not simply decorate articles with images. MOS:IMAGE RELEVANCE states "Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative." While "a dozen publications have reported this" we do not need to see images of two artists to understand the concept. The prose are sufficient. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 17:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
From what I can tell, the title of the song is styled "drivers license" on the official YouTube video and the streaming service Spotify, though reputable sources like New York Times and Rolling Stone use "Drivers License" like the article.
I think including the official style (with sources) in the lead would be easier to see visually for readers and be faithful to the actual song; there have also been other edits and comments here with confusion about it. My initial edit got reverted, so I thought I'd post here.
Current: "Drivers License" (stylized in all lowercase) is the debut
Proposal: "Drivers License" (styled drivers license) is the debut
Thoughts? Fredlesaltique ( talk) 02:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
"Drivers License" (stylized in all lowercase as "drivers license"). D🐶ggy54321 ( let's chat!) 16:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I saw the citation was removed, is there a reason for doing so? Fredlesaltique ( talk) 01:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I think Lana Del Rey should be mentioned considering Taylor Swift (Esp. her music from last year) was virtually based on Lana's music, lyrics & vocal style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.159.96.59 ( talk) 15:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
In the section "Commentary and impact" appears the following:
The New York Times writer Joe Coscarelli wrote that the song was spurred not only by its quality, but also the gossips surrounding it, paired with the label's marketing plan, and support from celebrities like Swift and
Charli D'Amelio. He noted the autobiographical song bolstered tabloids and listeners to "piece together its real-life parallels", while TikTok videos lead to social media posts, "which led to streams, which led to news articles, and back around again", generating an "unbeatable" feedback loop. Coscarelli added that, similar to
Britney Spears,
Justin Timberlake,
Christina Aguilera,
Miley Cyrus,
Demi Lovato, and
Selena Gomez, Rodrigo took "her experiences within the Disney machine and attempted to translate them for a broader, more adult audience".
[1]
An IP (or group of IPs) has several times replaced the name Demi Lovato with Bridgit Mendler with no explanation ... and despite this being reverted back to Lovato, I have a feeling they will continue this disruption ad nauseam. My question is simply (without my needing to register an account at The New York Times): Is Mendler mentioned at all in the context of what is stated above? MPFitz1968 ( talk) 07:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
References
The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:SNOW. ( non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 02:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Drivers License (song) → Drivers License – "Drivers License" currently redirects here, current title is unnecessary disambiguation. Some may suggest that title should redirect to Drivers licence despite the fact this article is likely the primary topic for this search term. Please discuss below. Sean Stephens ( talk) 08:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Olivia Rodrigo has an RFC over whether Rodrigo should be called a singer-songwriter in the article, instead of a singer and a songwriter. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. BawinV ( talk) 14:39, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Twice now, IPs have removed this image without a valid reason for removal [2] [3]. Unless there's a copyright concern/violation (none has been brought up at the image file), I see no reason at this time for its removal, but I'll leave it to consenus to determine this. MPFitz1968 ( talk) 20:32, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
While the information in the section "Impact and Legacy" is coherent and well-sourced, almost all of it would be better placed under "Reception" rather than having its own section. It doesn't describe any impact it might have had (presumably because it's too new to have had any lasting impact), and it certainly doesn't describe any kind of legacy, which makes sense given that it's a new song. Silly barely begins to describe it. 68.60.202.174 ( talk) 22:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Drivers License and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 14#Drivers License until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 03:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC)