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There is some discussion at the Drascombe Association forum about what should be included on this page. Otter Man 18:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
What the hell does GRP stand for?
GRP = (fibre)Glass Reinforced Plastic
Critique of the article: The article in the present form contains errors, misrepresentations and leaves certain well known facts unmentioned. In the encyclopedic spirit of 'Wikipedia' it should be corrected and completed for fairness, or be deleted.
The trademark 'Drascombe' is licensed exclusively to only one manufacturer of boats designed by John Watkinson.
The artcile leaves other existing manufacturers, sellers and repairers of materially identical boats designed by John Watkinson unmentioned and unlinked. Why?
The article falsely lists two boats as 'Drascombe' in the meaning to be designed by John Watkinson, 'Caboteur' and 'Drifter 22'. These boats were not designed by John Watkinson, they are only branded as 'Drascombe'.
The author of the article -Otter Man|Otter Man- has requested that the discussion of his article should take place here, so here goes ... Craicboat 09:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
What country do these come from? Also, the article reads like a PR/sales piece: is 'The epitome of rugged simplicity, reliability, and seaworthiness in an open boat, the Lugger is equally at home pottering with the kids or undertaking more adventuresome expeditions' suitable for an encyclopaedia? I think not. 86.136.195.79 10:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedic entry for the word Drascombe. It started as a PR job but now that I understand how Wikipedia works I will start to make it encyclopedic with the help of other Drascombe fans. As Craicboat says, Drascombe is actually a brand name so the entry should start from that point.
Otter Man 17:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
The article has been modified somewhat over night, thanks.
The article now -rightly- identifies 'Drascombe' as commercial brand, but it -falsely- implies the present brand owner Churchouse Boats Ltd. has a material connection with the thousands of boats produced and sold with the label 'Drascombe' in the past. Most of those 'Drascombes' were produced and sold by the -then- brand owner Honnor Marine Ltd., to which Churchouse Boats Ltd. is not a successor or with which it has any relations. Craicboat 05:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The prefix 'Drascombe' applies to a range of very successful boats produced over the years by different manufacturers. A production boatbuilder will always register the brand name of his range of boats. The focus of the discussions here are triggered by the opening sentence of the article. Suggest that this is deleted and the second sentence is edited to become 'The name Drascombe applies to a series of sailing boats .......' Somewhere else in the article can be inserted the name of the current license holder of the Drascombe trademark. I would do the edit myself but I prefer to leave it to the main contributors to this article who are doing an excellent job. Boatman 09:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Boatman has made a very good proposal to make it clear that the Drascombe boats were/are built by several manufacturers. In the true encyclopedic spirit of Wikipedia I think the information should be added, who these manufacturers were, and are today. Craicboat 10:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
East-West you found yourself, very interesting BTW, then McNulty Ltd., but by far the biggest was Honnor Marine Ltd. . Maybe others know some more, like I think there was a Honnor Marine subsidiary firm in the US. Craicboat 18:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
It strikes me that there are a number of red links about, mostly builders/designers. There are two choices, either someone creates an article for each one, or another section could be made of the same name (builders and designers, or John Watkinson) within the article and linked internally. Ukebert 21:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I had been critical at first, but with the many corrections and improvements done since, I must say it is a great article now, and excellent encyclopedic reference. Well done, all. Craicboat 08:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
A link to the Webb Chiles website I added to the External links section of the article has just been deleted, the reason for deletion given being that the website is somehow not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Given that users can download free PDF copies of Webb Chiles' two books about his attempted circumnavigation and also Html copies of magazine articles which he wrote, I think that the link is very worth including. {See WP:External links) ← ZScarpia 14:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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There is some discussion at the Drascombe Association forum about what should be included on this page. Otter Man 18:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
What the hell does GRP stand for?
GRP = (fibre)Glass Reinforced Plastic
Critique of the article: The article in the present form contains errors, misrepresentations and leaves certain well known facts unmentioned. In the encyclopedic spirit of 'Wikipedia' it should be corrected and completed for fairness, or be deleted.
The trademark 'Drascombe' is licensed exclusively to only one manufacturer of boats designed by John Watkinson.
The artcile leaves other existing manufacturers, sellers and repairers of materially identical boats designed by John Watkinson unmentioned and unlinked. Why?
The article falsely lists two boats as 'Drascombe' in the meaning to be designed by John Watkinson, 'Caboteur' and 'Drifter 22'. These boats were not designed by John Watkinson, they are only branded as 'Drascombe'.
The author of the article -Otter Man|Otter Man- has requested that the discussion of his article should take place here, so here goes ... Craicboat 09:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
What country do these come from? Also, the article reads like a PR/sales piece: is 'The epitome of rugged simplicity, reliability, and seaworthiness in an open boat, the Lugger is equally at home pottering with the kids or undertaking more adventuresome expeditions' suitable for an encyclopaedia? I think not. 86.136.195.79 10:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedic entry for the word Drascombe. It started as a PR job but now that I understand how Wikipedia works I will start to make it encyclopedic with the help of other Drascombe fans. As Craicboat says, Drascombe is actually a brand name so the entry should start from that point.
Otter Man 17:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
The article has been modified somewhat over night, thanks.
The article now -rightly- identifies 'Drascombe' as commercial brand, but it -falsely- implies the present brand owner Churchouse Boats Ltd. has a material connection with the thousands of boats produced and sold with the label 'Drascombe' in the past. Most of those 'Drascombes' were produced and sold by the -then- brand owner Honnor Marine Ltd., to which Churchouse Boats Ltd. is not a successor or with which it has any relations. Craicboat 05:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The prefix 'Drascombe' applies to a range of very successful boats produced over the years by different manufacturers. A production boatbuilder will always register the brand name of his range of boats. The focus of the discussions here are triggered by the opening sentence of the article. Suggest that this is deleted and the second sentence is edited to become 'The name Drascombe applies to a series of sailing boats .......' Somewhere else in the article can be inserted the name of the current license holder of the Drascombe trademark. I would do the edit myself but I prefer to leave it to the main contributors to this article who are doing an excellent job. Boatman 09:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Boatman has made a very good proposal to make it clear that the Drascombe boats were/are built by several manufacturers. In the true encyclopedic spirit of Wikipedia I think the information should be added, who these manufacturers were, and are today. Craicboat 10:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
East-West you found yourself, very interesting BTW, then McNulty Ltd., but by far the biggest was Honnor Marine Ltd. . Maybe others know some more, like I think there was a Honnor Marine subsidiary firm in the US. Craicboat 18:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
It strikes me that there are a number of red links about, mostly builders/designers. There are two choices, either someone creates an article for each one, or another section could be made of the same name (builders and designers, or John Watkinson) within the article and linked internally. Ukebert 21:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I had been critical at first, but with the many corrections and improvements done since, I must say it is a great article now, and excellent encyclopedic reference. Well done, all. Craicboat 08:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
A link to the Webb Chiles website I added to the External links section of the article has just been deleted, the reason for deletion given being that the website is somehow not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Given that users can download free PDF copies of Webb Chiles' two books about his attempted circumnavigation and also Html copies of magazine articles which he wrote, I think that the link is very worth including. {See WP:External links) ← ZScarpia 14:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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