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In whose universe is this a real word? -- Dtcdthingy 15:53, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
It does sound like something somebody's made up. The other listings in the category "Dramedy" use the phrase "comedy drama". Suggest this page should be renamed Comedy drama. JW 13:59, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
i didn't have anything to do with this page, but it's a fairly common term. [1] [2] Feelingscarfy 14:07, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 21:09, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
"Dramedy" is used in Australia, too. Source: ABC Television series Short Cuts and its novelisation by
Marieke Hardy. --
Switch
12:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
The word dramedy has been around since the 1980's so yes it is a real word. A "comedy-drama" and a "dramedy" can be two different things. Dramedy should have it's own listing. (For example, this article ( http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/D/htmlD/dramedy/dramedy.htm ) beats Wikipedia by far, which as of now has no real article on Dramedy alone.) So move it back. 75.33.77.212 06:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
User 75.33.77.212, please RTFA that you cite! It is about the origin of the genre, not the word dramedy itself. JVC 10:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Although the neologism dramedy is included in the introduction it is not yet cited or explained within the actual article itself. I expected anything notable enough to be included in the introduction would be a summary of existing information actually in the article. I'll resist the urge to delete the word entirely as there seem to be people here who might be interested enough to write a proper subsection and back it up with sources. I very strongly support the use of the clearer unabbreviated term "comedy drama" which is far easier for readers to understand, even readers with English as a second language. A well written article would not expect readers to know or learn jargon and slang to be able to read and understand it. Keep it simple, and clear. -- Horkana ( talk) 23:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I think Dramedy should be a stand alone article and not linked to Comedy-Drama or Drama-Comedy as the term is now almsot universally accepted in the entertainment media world. Magazines like Entertainment Weekly, People and even newsprints like the LA Times are using the phrase as exampled when they did so just recently when Ugly Betty won the Golden Globe. -- Mezaco 00:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't make any sense at all. If they were different concepts then I would agree, but these are two different ways of saying the exact same thing. While I am not a fan of portmanteaus (actually, I really hate them!), this one is listed in the Merriam Webster dictionary with a date of 1978. 203.193.62.130 ( talk) 11:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
A good proportion of this article should be re-organised into a list of comedy-dramas (or is the pluralisation comedies-drama? ;) perhaps organised by year. Most of the section 'Drama-comedy on television today', for instance, is a just hard-to-read listing of example programmes. JVC 10:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been a big fan of Dramedy dating back to Ed. And after just watched Dan in Real Life, I came on to Wikipedia to try to find a list of movies and tv shows that I can check out. It'll be helpful if we can add a list of dramedy by year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.249.52 ( talk) 19:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 14:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
What we have here is a TV-only, ill-defined category that excludes very few TV shows. If you look at the list of properties, it allows any show that isn't a purely episodic, 30-minute sit com. There are no useful criteria of definition. It's not a well-understood category with academic backing.
Additionally, this is more of the kind of thing you hear in a puff-piece magazine than a serious intellectual category. If you want to understand the distinction between comedy and drama, you can go all the way back to Aristotle. If you want to understand a dramedy … there are no real references other than the fact that it made it into the dictionary.
We start with a impure but easily understood dichotomy between comedy and drama. We then say that any show that doesn't fit purely into either category is a "dramedy."
The problem with this category is easily seen if you look at the list of examples people have made. Do we really think Psych has major dramatic components? Do we really think Breaking Bad is substantially comedic? I've removed these terribly silly examples, but many of the shows on the list are totally subjective and debatable. Any drama with a funny moment, or any comedy with character development, you can argue that it's some kind of "hybrid." In reality, there are only a few examples that you can't easily say fits primarily and soundly in one category or the other.
Remove this article altogether. There just isn't enough encyclopedic or academic context to warrant an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerweck ( talk • contribs) 08:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
There is a good article about "Tragicomedy" elsewhere in Wikipedia which discusses the real history of the mixed tragedy/comedy genre. This article seems to be unaware of this history and is instead actually describing a fairly new set of terms used in the contemporary entertainment industry for a special kind of entertainment "product." It is fine for Wikipedia to record these new terms, but the "History" section of this article gives the impression that the article is doing more than that. So I think the opening should be revised to clarify the true scope of the article. I pity the poor student who ends up hitting this article when he's researching, for instance, Shakespeare's contributions to the mixed comedy and tragedy genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acdavisad ( talk • contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
In this edit, I removed a litany of shows, films, etc. that are A) questionable to include anyway since we're talking about something somewhat subjective, and B) it doesn't seem to me that the aim of this article is to catalog every conceivable comedy-drama under the sun. Further, who has determined that Kung Fu Panda 2 is a comedy-drama? Rugrats in Paris: The Movie? Finding Nemo? All comedies employ drama to tell stories (Airplane!) so unless there is a clear reason why we should call something a comedy-drama, we probably shouldn't be adding anything to the list. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 23:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to help focus the scope of this article, as most of the recent edits have involved adding to a growing list of examples, for instance the net of these good-faith edits by @ Joetri10:. Clearly the purpose of this article is not to list every comedy-drama under the sun, or even every notable comedy-drama under the sun, so when will we have enough examples? Do we even need a list? Isn't that why we have categories? Couldn't sufficient examples be presented in prose? The benefit to prose is that we wouldn't have an attractive nuisance in the form of a list. It seems to me that the bulk of the edits in the past six months have been made to the list section. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Half of that stuff isn't considered notable. And anytime anything is added to the list that is relevant to the article, it gets deleted for no good reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.192.54 ( talk) 02:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
What about Anywhere But Here, Raising Helen, or Birdman? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C8:C001:8A3A:14F9:65F:89A3:7BB9 ( talk) 00:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. Though "dramedy" has become a popular term in North America, supporters have successfully demonstrated that it is not a commonly used term in other English-speaking regions, in comparison to the proposed "comedy drama" which is recognizable worldwide. ( non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite ( talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Dramedy → Comedy drama – "Dramedy" is an informal portmanteau, similar to romedy. The article was moved without any consensus, and that must be reverted. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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In whose universe is this a real word? -- Dtcdthingy 15:53, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
It does sound like something somebody's made up. The other listings in the category "Dramedy" use the phrase "comedy drama". Suggest this page should be renamed Comedy drama. JW 13:59, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
i didn't have anything to do with this page, but it's a fairly common term. [1] [2] Feelingscarfy 14:07, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 21:09, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
"Dramedy" is used in Australia, too. Source: ABC Television series Short Cuts and its novelisation by
Marieke Hardy. --
Switch
12:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
The word dramedy has been around since the 1980's so yes it is a real word. A "comedy-drama" and a "dramedy" can be two different things. Dramedy should have it's own listing. (For example, this article ( http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/D/htmlD/dramedy/dramedy.htm ) beats Wikipedia by far, which as of now has no real article on Dramedy alone.) So move it back. 75.33.77.212 06:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
User 75.33.77.212, please RTFA that you cite! It is about the origin of the genre, not the word dramedy itself. JVC 10:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Although the neologism dramedy is included in the introduction it is not yet cited or explained within the actual article itself. I expected anything notable enough to be included in the introduction would be a summary of existing information actually in the article. I'll resist the urge to delete the word entirely as there seem to be people here who might be interested enough to write a proper subsection and back it up with sources. I very strongly support the use of the clearer unabbreviated term "comedy drama" which is far easier for readers to understand, even readers with English as a second language. A well written article would not expect readers to know or learn jargon and slang to be able to read and understand it. Keep it simple, and clear. -- Horkana ( talk) 23:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I think Dramedy should be a stand alone article and not linked to Comedy-Drama or Drama-Comedy as the term is now almsot universally accepted in the entertainment media world. Magazines like Entertainment Weekly, People and even newsprints like the LA Times are using the phrase as exampled when they did so just recently when Ugly Betty won the Golden Globe. -- Mezaco 00:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
That doesn't make any sense at all. If they were different concepts then I would agree, but these are two different ways of saying the exact same thing. While I am not a fan of portmanteaus (actually, I really hate them!), this one is listed in the Merriam Webster dictionary with a date of 1978. 203.193.62.130 ( talk) 11:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
A good proportion of this article should be re-organised into a list of comedy-dramas (or is the pluralisation comedies-drama? ;) perhaps organised by year. Most of the section 'Drama-comedy on television today', for instance, is a just hard-to-read listing of example programmes. JVC 10:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been a big fan of Dramedy dating back to Ed. And after just watched Dan in Real Life, I came on to Wikipedia to try to find a list of movies and tv shows that I can check out. It'll be helpful if we can add a list of dramedy by year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.249.52 ( talk) 19:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 14:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
What we have here is a TV-only, ill-defined category that excludes very few TV shows. If you look at the list of properties, it allows any show that isn't a purely episodic, 30-minute sit com. There are no useful criteria of definition. It's not a well-understood category with academic backing.
Additionally, this is more of the kind of thing you hear in a puff-piece magazine than a serious intellectual category. If you want to understand the distinction between comedy and drama, you can go all the way back to Aristotle. If you want to understand a dramedy … there are no real references other than the fact that it made it into the dictionary.
We start with a impure but easily understood dichotomy between comedy and drama. We then say that any show that doesn't fit purely into either category is a "dramedy."
The problem with this category is easily seen if you look at the list of examples people have made. Do we really think Psych has major dramatic components? Do we really think Breaking Bad is substantially comedic? I've removed these terribly silly examples, but many of the shows on the list are totally subjective and debatable. Any drama with a funny moment, or any comedy with character development, you can argue that it's some kind of "hybrid." In reality, there are only a few examples that you can't easily say fits primarily and soundly in one category or the other.
Remove this article altogether. There just isn't enough encyclopedic or academic context to warrant an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerweck ( talk • contribs) 08:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
There is a good article about "Tragicomedy" elsewhere in Wikipedia which discusses the real history of the mixed tragedy/comedy genre. This article seems to be unaware of this history and is instead actually describing a fairly new set of terms used in the contemporary entertainment industry for a special kind of entertainment "product." It is fine for Wikipedia to record these new terms, but the "History" section of this article gives the impression that the article is doing more than that. So I think the opening should be revised to clarify the true scope of the article. I pity the poor student who ends up hitting this article when he's researching, for instance, Shakespeare's contributions to the mixed comedy and tragedy genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acdavisad ( talk • contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
In this edit, I removed a litany of shows, films, etc. that are A) questionable to include anyway since we're talking about something somewhat subjective, and B) it doesn't seem to me that the aim of this article is to catalog every conceivable comedy-drama under the sun. Further, who has determined that Kung Fu Panda 2 is a comedy-drama? Rugrats in Paris: The Movie? Finding Nemo? All comedies employ drama to tell stories (Airplane!) so unless there is a clear reason why we should call something a comedy-drama, we probably shouldn't be adding anything to the list. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 23:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to help focus the scope of this article, as most of the recent edits have involved adding to a growing list of examples, for instance the net of these good-faith edits by @ Joetri10:. Clearly the purpose of this article is not to list every comedy-drama under the sun, or even every notable comedy-drama under the sun, so when will we have enough examples? Do we even need a list? Isn't that why we have categories? Couldn't sufficient examples be presented in prose? The benefit to prose is that we wouldn't have an attractive nuisance in the form of a list. It seems to me that the bulk of the edits in the past six months have been made to the list section. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Half of that stuff isn't considered notable. And anytime anything is added to the list that is relevant to the article, it gets deleted for no good reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.192.54 ( talk) 02:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
What about Anywhere But Here, Raising Helen, or Birdman? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C8:C001:8A3A:14F9:65F:89A3:7BB9 ( talk) 00:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. Though "dramedy" has become a popular term in North America, supporters have successfully demonstrated that it is not a commonly used term in other English-speaking regions, in comparison to the proposed "comedy drama" which is recognizable worldwide. ( non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite ( talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Dramedy → Comedy drama – "Dramedy" is an informal portmanteau, similar to romedy. The article was moved without any consensus, and that must be reverted. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)