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This article could do with disambiguating Winn and Coales (Denso) Ltd, given that Denso is also a notable company, and is actually the older of the two; the original "Denso Anti-Corrosion Tape" and their other products are widely known in the construction industry. DWaterson 15:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Article was moved from DENSO to Denso in order to meet requirements in WP:MOS regarding using all caps in the title of a company article title. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 08:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The change from DENSO to Denso was justified on the basis of the WP:MOS.
However, the global DENSO corporation always refers to itself as DENSO in full capitals:
http://www.globaldenso.com/en/
I'm not experienced enough to know whether I should "just make" this change, or what the impact would be (changing an article title is a bit heavyweight).
Can anyone comment?
(I wrote to nihonjoe, didn't get a reply)
GreenAsJade ( talk)
I propose to move this page back to DENSO.
I will do it as soon as I have a chance, unless someone objects.
GreenAsJade ( talk) 23:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I work for a company in the U.S. that does business with DENSO. I have done N.D.A.s and contracts with them. I have also been corrected by a V.P. for DENSO of America. In all these cases DENSO does not accept the spelling Denso. Sorry. 21:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Sitnalvsky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sitnalvski ( talk • contribs)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 10:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Denso →
DENSO – DENSO is consistently and uniformly the spelling of this company: as far as I know it is not an acronym, it is simply how the company name is written. This article was originally called DENSO, but was moved to Denso on the grounds of
WP:MOS. However, I think that looking at these guidelines and the precedents in place, a company name that is spelled a particular significant way gets a page named consistent with that (eg eBay). It is therefore not helpful to have this page misleadingly named Denso - that causes this to be the only place in the Web where the company name is spelled this way! People may come (as I did) to wikipedia looking for evidence about the correct way to spell the company name ... having a wrong example in the title is bad.
GreenAsJade (
talk) 07:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I submit eBay and UNESCO as precedents that indicate that DENSO should be DENSO.
BikerBiker: why would we not do this? What advantage is there to having a different spelling in the title than in every place in the article?
GreenAsJade ( talk) 07:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
First, let me restate the reason to move: this naming is inconsistent with most if not all material on the internet relating to DENSO. It is inconsistent with the way that DENSO itself refers to itself, and contributes to confusion about what is the correct way to refer to that company.
I retract the comment that this page is the "only" place where DENSO is incorrectly capitalized - clearly that is hyperbole. However, the fact that a few other places inevitably have it wrong does not mean that Wikipedia should represent it incorrectly or inconsistently with the way that the company itself represents itself.
Here are further examples in Wikipedia of how it is common and acceptable, indeed "correct" to name the page in line with the corporate capitalisation:
Should each of these be "fixed" in slavish obedience to the MOS? Should each occurence of the word DENSO in the text of the page similarly be reduced, as the MOS would appear to call for.
I think that Wikipedia should represent the common way that this word is used: all caps. Not to aid the companies marketting and branding, but to correctly reflect the world that it is documenting.
Cheers,
GreenAsJade ( talk) 11:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
The redirect
Air-Den has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 14 § Air-Den until a consensus is reached.
Steel1943 (
talk) 19:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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This article could do with disambiguating Winn and Coales (Denso) Ltd, given that Denso is also a notable company, and is actually the older of the two; the original "Denso Anti-Corrosion Tape" and their other products are widely known in the construction industry. DWaterson 15:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Article was moved from DENSO to Denso in order to meet requirements in WP:MOS regarding using all caps in the title of a company article title. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 08:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
The change from DENSO to Denso was justified on the basis of the WP:MOS.
However, the global DENSO corporation always refers to itself as DENSO in full capitals:
http://www.globaldenso.com/en/
I'm not experienced enough to know whether I should "just make" this change, or what the impact would be (changing an article title is a bit heavyweight).
Can anyone comment?
(I wrote to nihonjoe, didn't get a reply)
GreenAsJade ( talk)
I propose to move this page back to DENSO.
I will do it as soon as I have a chance, unless someone objects.
GreenAsJade ( talk) 23:49, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I work for a company in the U.S. that does business with DENSO. I have done N.D.A.s and contracts with them. I have also been corrected by a V.P. for DENSO of America. In all these cases DENSO does not accept the spelling Denso. Sorry. 21:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Sitnalvsky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sitnalvski ( talk • contribs)
The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 10:00, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Denso →
DENSO – DENSO is consistently and uniformly the spelling of this company: as far as I know it is not an acronym, it is simply how the company name is written. This article was originally called DENSO, but was moved to Denso on the grounds of
WP:MOS. However, I think that looking at these guidelines and the precedents in place, a company name that is spelled a particular significant way gets a page named consistent with that (eg eBay). It is therefore not helpful to have this page misleadingly named Denso - that causes this to be the only place in the Web where the company name is spelled this way! People may come (as I did) to wikipedia looking for evidence about the correct way to spell the company name ... having a wrong example in the title is bad.
GreenAsJade (
talk) 07:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
I submit eBay and UNESCO as precedents that indicate that DENSO should be DENSO.
BikerBiker: why would we not do this? What advantage is there to having a different spelling in the title than in every place in the article?
GreenAsJade ( talk) 07:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
First, let me restate the reason to move: this naming is inconsistent with most if not all material on the internet relating to DENSO. It is inconsistent with the way that DENSO itself refers to itself, and contributes to confusion about what is the correct way to refer to that company.
I retract the comment that this page is the "only" place where DENSO is incorrectly capitalized - clearly that is hyperbole. However, the fact that a few other places inevitably have it wrong does not mean that Wikipedia should represent it incorrectly or inconsistently with the way that the company itself represents itself.
Here are further examples in Wikipedia of how it is common and acceptable, indeed "correct" to name the page in line with the corporate capitalisation:
Should each of these be "fixed" in slavish obedience to the MOS? Should each occurence of the word DENSO in the text of the page similarly be reduced, as the MOS would appear to call for.
I think that Wikipedia should represent the common way that this word is used: all caps. Not to aid the companies marketting and branding, but to correctly reflect the world that it is documenting.
Cheers,
GreenAsJade ( talk) 11:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
The redirect
Air-Den has been listed at
redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the
redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at
Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 14 § Air-Den until a consensus is reached.
Steel1943 (
talk) 19:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)