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Needs a note about its unusually high bouyancy somewhere 129.42.208.182 18:45, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
This article claims the Dead Sea is the lowest point on the surface of the Earth, but the Bentley Subglacial Trench article makes the same claim. I think the claim here should be removed, unless there is some technicality at work, in which case that technicality needs to be mentioned. Danorris 00:20, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
The article puts it & Gomorrah on the shore of the Dead Sea; I've seen a doc that suggests they are both under it now... Can anybody cite a source? Trekphiler 23:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Try searching the Jordan River then, it might not work though
What are those aquatic structures south of the Dead Sea, extending 13 x 30 km² in size, around 31°08′N 35°27′E / 31.13°N 35.45°E? -- Abdull 12:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Quite a bit of the claims about theraputic effects of the Dead Sea in this article seem like they've been copied directly out of some sort of Dead Sea health spa brochure. Particularly the claims about lowered UV content in the sunlight seems pretty suspect (frankly: unscientific nonsense). If nobody steps forward to provide credible references I will edit most of that stuff out. There's also a lot of redundant (sometimes contradictory) content about the chemical makeup of the water which needs to be addressed. -- Bk0 16:54, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The article states that the Dead Sea has "an elevation of 394 m (1291 ft) below sea level". Wikipedia definition for Elevation: "The elevation of a geographic location is its height above a fixed reference point." So wouldn't the depth of the valley/whatever be 394m, not its elevation. The elevation would be -394m (negative 394 meters' elevation), right? -- HJV 16:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
can anyone put (a rough idea) of the density of water at the dead sea. in gm/cc or kg per meter cube as you wish i think it would be useful to put a rough figure even if it is not exact.
nids 22:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't the Jordan River diverted for agriculture and not flowing into the Dead Sea?
Ascend 17:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
This state of Utah site claims water cannot go beyond 27%, but the article here says the Dead Sea is 31.5% salinity?
http://geology.utah.gov/online/PI-39/pi39pg9.htm
Who is incorrect?
The beginning of the article states that the Dead Sea has the highest Salinity of any body of water, but at the bottom it states that West Antarctica's Don Juan Pond has a greater salinity. Which is it? Bored 3779 18:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The Salton Sea in California is listed at 40% salinity, which would seem to contradict the claims here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.234.242 ( talk • contribs).
Why is there no such thing as Category:Dead Sea? -- McTrixie/ Mr Accountable 13:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Either remove the statements that have "citation needed" after them or add the inline citation, or a reviewer may quick-fail the article solely for this reason. -- Nehrams2020 07:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Anon, what is the problem with Oren Shatz's external link? I found some of the photos on that site fascinating (and relevant). -- Yath 22:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
So is the NaCl conc. 8% or 12-18%?!
Are there any cities around the Dead Sea? I really want to know that the name of cities around by Dead Sea from both sides(Israel, Palestine, Jordan).. I think that there is no city name next to Dead Sea. Do you know the city's name next to Dead Sea? Is dead sea nearby mountain from Israel, Palestine Sides? Daniel5127, 02:04, 30 April 2006(UTC)
It is the second saltiest body of water on Earth, with a salinity of about 30 percent. Only Lake Asal (Djibouti) has a higher salinity. This is about 8.6 times greater than average ocean salinity.
The Data on the salt composition is outdated (from the early 1980's.) A more modern value should be obtained and the latter discarded or the modern value and the old value could be combined in a chart. Marsu, 14.09 25. October 2009 (UTC)
I have introduced a point of disagreement in the lead sentence, so rather start an edit war over it, I would like to ask for other opinions. Reading a lead sentence about a body of water that says it is the lowest point on Earth not covered by water is confusing to the reader, is it not? I have tried to edit this twice, in two different ways, and these edits have been reverted. There are other ways to clarify this besides how I have done it, but I thought I would ask for other opinions first. -- Sfmammamia 17:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to Lake Baikal; that clarifies where my earlier edits went wrong. Here's a suggested edit of the lead paragraph that I think is less confusing and still correct, posted here rather than as a bold edit to see if it causes any further objections:
-- Sfmammamia 22:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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This article claims "Israeli experts say it is nine times saltier than the Mediterranean Sea (31.5% salt versus 3.5% for the Mediterranean)." but the Sea water article figure seems to show the Mediterranean to be around 3.8/3.9%. 3.5% seems to be the mean salinity of all ocean water, the Mediterranean is saltier. Also, a reference to the "Israeli experts" is missing. The inconsistency should be corrected; I don't know what's correct. —Preceding [[Wikipe dia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by 213.47.181.20 ( talk) 15:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The opening picture "Sunset" has no encyclopedic value. please consider changing it something which can be directly attributed to Dead Sea. - A lay user
The Hebrew Translation is wrong. It's either "Sea of the Salt" or "The Salt Sea". "Yam HaMelakh" Literally translated is "Sea the Salt", but the of can be implied, as in "Yom Huledet" which is day of birth (i.e. birthday). Here "Hamelakh" means the salt, as the Hebrew prexid ha means the, with melakh meaning salt. However, it could also mean "The Salt Sea". However, this is unlikely, as this type of language is uncommon in modern Hebrew. . Just as "Yam Suf" means "Sea of Reeds", the Red Sea, Yam Hamelakh would mean Sea of the Salt, not just Sea of Salt. Smartyllama ( talk) 11:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
"This salinity makes for a harsh environment where animals cannot flourish and boats cannot sail." - why does high salinity mean boats can't sail? AKM ( talk) 11:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC) the Dead sea is a lake actally —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.252.76 ( talk) 17:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
On the top of the page, I added this as per Template:Otheruses:
thanks, Ikip ( talk) 09:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be an ongoing dispute about the order in which the languages are displayed in the lead sentence. I can see justifications for two lines of thought: 1) display them alphabetically, in which case Arabic should appear first. 2) display them in agreement with the geography that appears in the sentence, i.e., Israel and Jordan (Hebrew, then Arabic). If the order is changed to alphabetical (Arabic first), then perhaps we should change the order of the country names as well? Any other thoughts? -- Sfmammamia 17:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The Dead Sea lies in the Jordan Rift Zone, therefore, vulcanism should be expected. Are signs of vulcanism found in the geology of the Dead Sea or the region round about? It's interesting that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah described in Genesis Ch. 19 was accomplished with fire and brimstone, which are usually associated with vulcanism. More on the geology of the region would be appropriate to the article. Virgil H. Soule ( talk) 06:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I have read of a "monster" elephant that tourists had come to seek, for 250 years before WWI, in the Dead Sea area. Does anybody have information? It was a type of Loch Ness thing. I read about it in a booklet by the Society for Protection of Nature on the 1912 survey of the Dead Sea area. פשוט pashute ♫ ( talk) 17:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
The story of Lot is shared by all Judaic faiths, which includes Judaism, Islam and Christianity. Thus, it does not make sense to repeat it in separate sections "In Judaism" and "In Islam": there should be one section entitled "In Judaism, Christianity and Islam". - Pgan002 ( talk) 21:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
This is not history. Like the wiki article on the North Pole and Santa Claus, this should be called cultural association. —Preceding
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This site: [ Ynet] is about recent religious conflict between Islamics and Jews about the DeadSea. Agre22 ( talk) 15:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)agre22
Wikipedia should give as much facts as possible. So when was the Dead sea divided in two? State year please.
Bjarnulf, Oslo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.209.87.61 ( talk) 00:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Before the destruction, the Dead Sea was a valley full of natural tar pits, which was called the vale of Siddim.
Might "tar pits" be a mistranslation? How could the Hebrews have known about tar pits? In historical times there were no such things in the Old World.-- 80.141.246.121 ( talk) 22:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
The article claims that the Dead Sea is the world's second saltiest body of water, after Lake Asal in Djibouti. It also claims that the Dead Sea's salinity is 31.5%. According to the Wikipedia Garabogazkol article, the Garabogazkol bay has a salinity of 35%. This would make the Dead Sea the third saltiest body of water. Not sure which is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.141.189 ( talk) 01:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Don Juan Pond has the highest salinity of all (40.2 % weight). And I think there's a lake of 38 % in China – I found it while doing a little research on the topic, but since I've forgotten its name, I've had a hard time finding it again. If the 35 % figure is indeed correct, Garabogazköl's omission could owe to a technicality: it's a part of a larger body of water, namely the Caspian Sea. -- Anshelm '77 ( talk) 01:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the wording that "only <list> have higher salinities". Salar de Atacama is reported to be 40% salinity, and I see no reason to believe that we haven't missed any others, especially if you count something like Don Juan Pond. Secondly, I don't feel that ranking the "most saline" lakes is meaningful. For one, I believe they are subject to fluctuate quite a bit: the Great Salt Lake's salinity is given as 5-27% depending on the water level (and I believe it is saturated at 27%, or that would be higher). The saltiest lakes at any given time will likely be saturated, so it doesn't matter how much salt is available at all, just what it is composed of. If my change is reverted, please provide a citation that those lakes and no others are saltier. Kjsharke ( talk) 15:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
A part of the dead sea's short is in the West Bank. This territory is not part of Israel (nor of Jordan) so it should be added independently; This territory is controlled by the Israeli army in part, and by the Palestinian national authority. Anyway - it is not considered an Israeli territory by any country in the world, including Israel itself. Only East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were declared Israeli by Israel after the 1967 war. The areas to the Dead Sea's shore weren't. Ben Gershon - בן גרשון ( Talk) 03:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by בן גרשון ( talk • contribs)
The Dead Sea borders mainly the West bank to the west, see this map: [2] -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 02:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
ElComandanteChe, West banks border to the Dead Sea is about double the length then Israels, so West Bank should be before Israel.-- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 18:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The last section of the article is titled "Saving the Red Sea", but the threat is not well explained. It is touched upon early in the article in this sentence:
The article currently [3] has this line in the lead section:
Could this be explained better? I have always read how hypersalinity makes drowning nearly impossible (because everyone floats without trying), and while that does not necessarily preclude making swimming difficult, it does seem nearly at odds. Perhaps a discussion of the mechanics of swimming in hypersaline waters? 98.82.3.81 ( talk) 04:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Sources for this article:
I have attempted to clarify references to a Bible but it was reverted stating it ws clear it was the "Hebrew Bible". My addition was "Christian Bible". I don't know if there is a difference. Since there are many Bibles and many religions based upon these "holy lands" assumption of this identifier is not satisfactory for clarity. Conceit of religious beliefs does not make it clear to the whole world which Bible is being referred to. I suggest a clarification adjective be added to all occurrences where the type of bible is not identified by a section title or previous clarification in the same paragragh. 99.251.114.120 ( talk) 12:31, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia Articles state that the Dead Sea is the most saline body of water...however the Red Sea (in it's wikipedia article) has "Salinity ranges between 36 and 38 ‰" Compared to the Dead Sea's "salinity of about 30%" These two seem incompable, so someone should look into this...
The Salton Sea in California is listed at 40% salinity, which would seem to contradict the claims here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.234.242 ( talk • contribs).
Epoch era ( talk) 22:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)The Salton Sea is a man made lake created to collect water including salt water Epoch era ( talk)
The natural history is very unclear to me... Too confusing. SkyScrapers 14:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Epoch era (
talk) 08:38, 20 September 2012 (UTC)10,000 B.C. ((video)) is a pivotal point in ancient natural history especially climate change and human adaptation during the last mini-ice age
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Epoch era ( talk) 21:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)Climate changes during the previous Ice Ages occurred in and affected the Northern Hemisphere rather than the Southern Hemisphere therefore The Dead Sea hasn't seen a lot of climate changes and probably never will Epoch era ( talk) 21:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Epoch era (
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Epoch era (
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"The sea has a density of 1.24 kg/L,[citation needed] which makes swimming similar to floating.[5]" This reads like a nonsense statement and delivers a very confused message. The bouyancy concept is stated elsewhere in the article and the reference article reads like non-native English speaking children wrote it. I propose the whole statement be removed. Please adhere to WP:NPOV. 99.251.114.120 ( talk) 12:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
99.251.114.120 ( talk) 12:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Who was the first to discover that its surface is below sea level, and when was it discovered? -- 80.131.223.109 ( talk) 13:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Epoch era ( talk) 19:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC)bees Epoch era ( talk) 19:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC) Epoch era ( talk) 17:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)The Dead Sea was a prehistoric flood plain, tidal pool or beach? Epoch era ( talk) 17:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
The data on potash production here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea#Industry doesn't match the equivalent data here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potash#Fertilizers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.79.49 ( talk) 06:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
The Arabic name for the Dead Sea translates directly as The Dead Sea. The arabic written in the opening portion (البحر الميت) is translated as The Dead Sea. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it referred to as the Sea of Lot (which would be written as بحر لوط), but I don't dispute that could also be referenced to in that way. Soviak
That's interesting that the Arabic says "Dead Sea." The Sea of Lot bit came from a book I read about the Dead Sea by Barbara Krieger. This website refers to the DS as "Bahr Lut." Could you add "Bahr Lut"? http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?pp/matpc:@field(NUMBER+@band(matpc+07359)) So does this one. http://www.o-allah.com/php/travel6.php Dinopup 00:19, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I'm a translator by occupation but not a native speaker. I'm also new to editing content on Wikipedia and want to provide something useful in an area I have some expertise at. The DS is called "Al Bahr Al Mayyit" in arabic in news broadcasts, on the arabic Wikipedia, and on this website http://lexicorient.com/e.o/dead_sea.htm . It's the way i've found it most commonly used. I've ran through my dictionaries and the most reliable one says that "Bahr Lut" is used as well. How about the following as a proposed way of wording it:
In Arabic the Dead Sea, "Al Bahr Al Mayyit", is also called "Bahr Lut" meaning "the Sea of Lot." In past times Arabs called it the "Sea of Zoar," after a nearby town. To the Greeks, the Dead Sea was "Lake Asphaltites." (see below)
Kudos and Wikilove on the flora/fauna edit. I would have just posted this change in the first place on my own, but I'm still lacking confidence. Soviak
Are you sure it's Bahr al-mayyit? I've never heard death as "mayyit" (but then, I'm just an arabic student, not a translator), but only as mawt. Are they both used, or is mayyit coloquial (it seems to just be a different form w/ w->y as often happens). -
Yom 21:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I've discovered another name for it from an old map.Lake Al-Motanah; see http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~31563~1150042:A-new-map-of-Arabia-divided-into-it?showTip=false&showTipAdvancedSearch=false&title=Search+Results%3A+List_no+equal+to+%272310.057%27&thumbnailViewUrlKey=link.view.search.url&helpUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lunaimaging.com%2Fsupport%2F6_0%2FLUNA%2Fen%2FAbout_Luna_and_Insight.htm&fullTextSearchChecked=&advancedSearchUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lunaimaging.com%2Fsupport%2F6_0%2FLUNA%2Fen%2FAdvanced_Search.htm . Also mentioned here: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=vX5MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=lake+almotanah&source=bl&ots=kYSBLNs2-r&sig=z5XA675IDJeSh3zQM-qjzeXbB90&hl=en&sa=X&ei=quC8UIK0J-fP0QXgwoGYDw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lake%20almotanah&f=false . I am not a regular editor and don't know the full etiquette of editing the article. Subhi ( talk) 18:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I removed a number of images from this article, including the gallery. Availability is not sufficient reason to add an image; WP style cautions against overwhelming an article with images. Anyway, there's a large Commons gallery, for which a link is provided. Some images did not relate clearly to the text they were placed beside, maybe due to poor captioning, or gradual migration after numerous edits. If I could not relocate an image to an appropriate section, I removed it. Also, I removed 3 out of 4 panoramic images from the Health effects section; they gave the section too much weight. Richigi ( talk) 18:48, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I think the list of saltiest lakes is unnecessary in the first paragraph.-- Abuk SABUK ( talk) 10:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Did you know that the the Dead Sea is to salty that you can't sink? Try it! 12KaiJie333 Growtopia ( talk) 11:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
This article currently violates WP:NPOV. It is neutral to say it borders the West Bank, not "State of Palestine." Saying "State of Palestine" is extremely POV because such a place does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.109.37.64 ( talk) 03:13, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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I think the lead sentence should refer in some way to the fact that the West Bank/ Palestinian territories/ State of Palestine borders the Dead Sea. I favour the current wording, which uses "Palestine" and pipes to the "State of Palestine" article (the " Palestine" article is about the historical region). The State of Palestine is recognised by the UN and has defined borders, and I prefer the word "Palestine" without the "State of" as more neutral. I do recognise that subtleties of language are involved, so I think that discussing the wording here, and trying to find a consensus, would be a good idea. Tenthweb ( talk) 23:45, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
ESSENTIAL facts missing or relegated to the bottom of the article. The LEAD at least should be rewritten.
- The DS is fast disappearing - by over 1 m of depth per year! Shoreline on less steep Israeli shore is fast retreating, Jordan less affected (very steep shore).
- The DS consists of TWO BASINS, the shallow S one is by now fully artificial, consisting of evaporation ponds only kept alive by the Dead Sea Works pumping water from N basin. Is a "suspended pond" kept from emptying by man-made dams. Most Israeli hotels are located there and benefit from constant water level.
- The sinkholes are not a footnote, but a huge phenomenon.
- ALL dimensions from the INFOBOX, lead, and article proper should be re-checked. They seem to refer to the N basin only - whatever the case, this should be MENTIONED, since the S basin, artificial as it is today, adds another good third to the length, shore length, and surface of the DS.
- Wadi Mujib, the biblical River Arnon, is an important tributary, but doesn't get a single mention.
No time, sorry. Who picks up the challenge?
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According to Islamic and Biblical traditions, the Dead Sea is the site of the ancient city of Sodom, home of the Prophet Lut (Lot), peace be upon him.
The Quran describes the people of Sodom as ignorant, wicked, evildoers who rejected God's call to righteousness. The people were murderers, thiefs, and openly practiced immoral sexual behavior. Lut perservered in preaching God's message, but found that even his own wife was one of the disbelievers. God severely punished the people of this region for their wickedness. According to the Quran, the punishment was to "turn the cities upside down, and rain down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread layer on layer, marked from your Lord" (Quran 11:82-83). The site of this punishment is now the Dead Sea, standing as a symbol of destruction.
The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, reportedly tried to dissuade people from visiting the sites of God's punishment: "Do not enter the place of those who were unjust to themselves, unless you are weeping, lest you should suffer the same punishment as was inflicted upon them."
The Quran describes that the site of this punishment has been left as a sign for those who follow: "Surely! In this are signs for those who understand. And verily, they (the cities) are right on the highroad. Surely! Therein is indeed a sign for the believers." (Quran 15:75-77)
If one does visit the Dead Sea, it is recommended to spend time recalling the story of Lut, and how he stood for righteousness among his people. The Quran says, "And to Lut, too, We gave wisdom and knowledge; We saved him from the town which practiced abominations. Truly they were a people given to evil, a rebellious people. And We admitted him to Our mercy; for he was one of the righteous" (Qur'an 21:74-75).
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The indicated ISRAMAR website URL ( [4]) is long outdated, leads automatically to [5], where it only covers 1992-2010. The source indicated in the Infobox under "reference" ( [6]), "Dead Sea Data Summary 2015" on Ein Gedi station website, is more up-to-date, all the way to Dec. 2015, but that's also almost 1 year old. Arminden ( talk) 07:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Apparently there's a thriving Brine shrimp population living in the Dead Sea. The first site I checked is blacklisted on Wikipedia (genesea.edu). Can someone verify this link to be a proper source? Here's a link to a photo. This should be added to the flora and fauna section. Thx. Karel Adriaan ( talk) 17:05, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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In section "Recession and environmental concerns" add the following reference at the end of the third paragraph: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02508060.2017.1344817 (article in peer reviewed academic journal has just been published supporting this)
the same reference can be added to references 57 and 58. Thank you. 93.50.52.8 ( talk) 19:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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I'm new to wikipedia, so please be kind. I noticed today when doing reading for my Arabic class that the information on the Arabic version of this page and the English version of this page do not match when it comes to describing the length of the sea.
The English version says "The Dead Sea is 50 kilometres (31 mi) long and 15 kilometres (9 mi) wide at its widest point". It then cites the Jewish Virtual Library. However, even that source ( https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-dead-sea-vie) now says different information on the page (55 km by 18 km).
In the Arabic version it says "يصل عرض البحر الميت في أقصى حد إلى 17 كم، بينما يبلغ طوله حوالي 70 كم.", which translates basically to 70 by 17 km. Additionally, this information is from 2010 and has no updated citation since then, as well as the citation links being broken now.
I'm not really sure what the accurate information is, but I'm sure it could be accessed from someplace more reputable. It should at least be acknowledged in the article intro that the sea changes size frequently and seems to be shrinking.
Thanks, and sorry for any errors in my translation. Tovahs ( talk) 19:49, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
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Following other lakes, Dead Sea should be classified also concerning its origin as a Tektonic Lake or (more specific) Continental Rift Lake (compare: Lake Baikal). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.155.222.58 ( talk) 17:45, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
This article says it fluctuates around 31.5%, in same para as citing 34.2% and 27.6%. Later in the article it says 35% drops to 30% after rains. And, it’s 33.7% at List of bodies of water by salinity.
MBG02 ( talk) 23:06, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Two inaccuracies. First: The Biblical Hebrew term for Eastern Sea is not Yam ha-Mizrachi, but Yam ha-Kadmoni. Second: although it is indeed sometimes called Yam ha-Maavet in Modern Hebrew, which does means Sea of Death, the origin of the name Dead Sea comes from Latin: Mare Mortum. Name first given by the Roman historian Gnaeus Pompeius Trogus. Source: the Hebrew Wikipedia article. I would make the changes myself, but the page is protected. -- Rataube ( talk) 11:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
This sentence in the introduction: "Multiple canals and pipelines were proposed to reduce its recession, which had begun causing many problems." Should be edited for clarity. Hutima ( talk) 01:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Specifically, the "which had begun causing many problems" has an ambiguous antecedent and can refer either to toe proposals or to the recession and should be clarified. Hutima ( talk) 19:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
This article alternately talks about Sedom and Sodom, as if they were two different places. Use one uniform spelling, either hebr.Sedom or engl. Sodom. -- dunnhaupt ( talk) 19:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I came here because this article was flagged as needing citation (via Citation Hunt). Specifically subsection 3.4 Dead_Sea#Lake_formation. There seems to be some disagreement on specific dates. The top of the section mentions two competing theories, and there are two sources cited in the section 1 and 2.
It is possible that these flags could be resolved by reference to source 2, but I cannot access the page referenced as it is behind a paywall. Is there anyone out there with access to this text?
I have found another source 3 in which radiometric dating was used to support disconnection of the lagoon by 4.5 Ma. Rather than introduce a third set of figures to the issue and possibly discount the second source, I thought it best to share what I found here as a possible point of departure for someone better trained than myself to interpret radiometric dating and sediment layer deposition. Or for myself if I feel more ambitious in the future. DancesWithThermalPaste ( talk) 01:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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on External links add the link to deadsea.com: https://www.deadsea.com/ Naamawolff ( talk) 11:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
|answered=The Dead Sea is not just a natural phenomenon, it is also a tourist site. This website is very useful to people interested in visiting the Dead Sea as it provides information about the Dead Sea region, hiking trails, driving directions, and accommodation options. The Grand Canyon and/or the Taj Mahal pages have links to the touristic website that provides information about the site itself along with other places in the area, things to do there etc.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naamawolff ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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Change Israel to Palestine 92.253.8.18 ( talk) 12:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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The Geology-->Formation theories section is completely without sources, and need some - especially regarding the two formation theories themselves. For starters, it should get {{ Unreferenced section}} -- Metalindustrien ( talk) 12:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
I don’t want to edit the page I just kind of interested why it’s locked Alien1Dude ( talk) 09:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree. I don't see a reason too. I want to update sea level from 430.5 to 434 m (source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/sinking-israel-jordan-relations-leave-dead-sea-a-natural-wonder-low-and-dry/), but i couldn't. Zemljevidec ( talk) 09:16, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
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Dear colleague. Analyzing the Dead Sea climate table, I realized that it is out of date, mainly in terms of maximum absolute temperature. ( |Jul record high C=47.0 could be changed by |Jul record high C=49.9 ) . So I would like to know if it is possible for a reissue to be made in order to update such information. Recalling that the weather station in question is called "Sedom" and the data are available in the climate table of the Israel Meteorological Service website: https://ims.gov.il/en/ClimateAtlas. Grateful for the attention. marcelo melo ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC) marcelo melo ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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The Encyclopædia Britannica mentions a salinity of 33.7%, but the text of the article was changed to 34.2% here. Another source I found mentioned 33.2% ( https://www.britannica.com/place/Dead-Sea/Climate-and-hydrology) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwsi ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Dated source but (a) it has slightly different Greek from what we use here (linen instead of line), (b) slightly different Arabic transcription (Bahr instead of the 3 we have), and (c) the hilarious alt Arabic name Bahr Mutneh, the Stinking or Rotting Sea. If that was ever common enough we should get the right Arabic and include it. It also has the alt English name (d) "Sea of the Desert" but I assume that was never terribly common. — LlywelynII 03:38, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
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The Dead Sea, a lake not in Israel. Lake shares borders with Israel, Palestine, and Jordan. 94.249.3.228 ( talk) 05:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
The average depth mentioned in the info box is wrong. The volume (as of 2015) is: 114 km3, divided with area (as of 2016) is: 605 km2. Correct average depth is: 188.4 metres. The number of 199 metres requires more volume or less area. Thanks for the attention. The lake is ranked on: Lakes by mean depth. Torbjørn Ekholm ( talk) 15:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Why is this article extended and confirmed protected? no one would try to vandalize a geography related-article that is not a sensitive topic CityOfSails2 ( talk) 09:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Because there's no country called "Palestine" and there never has been. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.151.135 ( talk) 22:55, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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Needs a note about its unusually high bouyancy somewhere 129.42.208.182 18:45, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
This article claims the Dead Sea is the lowest point on the surface of the Earth, but the Bentley Subglacial Trench article makes the same claim. I think the claim here should be removed, unless there is some technicality at work, in which case that technicality needs to be mentioned. Danorris 00:20, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
The article puts it & Gomorrah on the shore of the Dead Sea; I've seen a doc that suggests they are both under it now... Can anybody cite a source? Trekphiler 23:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Try searching the Jordan River then, it might not work though
What are those aquatic structures south of the Dead Sea, extending 13 x 30 km² in size, around 31°08′N 35°27′E / 31.13°N 35.45°E? -- Abdull 12:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Quite a bit of the claims about theraputic effects of the Dead Sea in this article seem like they've been copied directly out of some sort of Dead Sea health spa brochure. Particularly the claims about lowered UV content in the sunlight seems pretty suspect (frankly: unscientific nonsense). If nobody steps forward to provide credible references I will edit most of that stuff out. There's also a lot of redundant (sometimes contradictory) content about the chemical makeup of the water which needs to be addressed. -- Bk0 16:54, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The article states that the Dead Sea has "an elevation of 394 m (1291 ft) below sea level". Wikipedia definition for Elevation: "The elevation of a geographic location is its height above a fixed reference point." So wouldn't the depth of the valley/whatever be 394m, not its elevation. The elevation would be -394m (negative 394 meters' elevation), right? -- HJV 16:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
can anyone put (a rough idea) of the density of water at the dead sea. in gm/cc or kg per meter cube as you wish i think it would be useful to put a rough figure even if it is not exact.
nids 22:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't the Jordan River diverted for agriculture and not flowing into the Dead Sea?
Ascend 17:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
This state of Utah site claims water cannot go beyond 27%, but the article here says the Dead Sea is 31.5% salinity?
http://geology.utah.gov/online/PI-39/pi39pg9.htm
Who is incorrect?
The beginning of the article states that the Dead Sea has the highest Salinity of any body of water, but at the bottom it states that West Antarctica's Don Juan Pond has a greater salinity. Which is it? Bored 3779 18:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The Salton Sea in California is listed at 40% salinity, which would seem to contradict the claims here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.234.242 ( talk • contribs).
Why is there no such thing as Category:Dead Sea? -- McTrixie/ Mr Accountable 13:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Either remove the statements that have "citation needed" after them or add the inline citation, or a reviewer may quick-fail the article solely for this reason. -- Nehrams2020 07:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Anon, what is the problem with Oren Shatz's external link? I found some of the photos on that site fascinating (and relevant). -- Yath 22:13, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
So is the NaCl conc. 8% or 12-18%?!
Are there any cities around the Dead Sea? I really want to know that the name of cities around by Dead Sea from both sides(Israel, Palestine, Jordan).. I think that there is no city name next to Dead Sea. Do you know the city's name next to Dead Sea? Is dead sea nearby mountain from Israel, Palestine Sides? Daniel5127, 02:04, 30 April 2006(UTC)
It is the second saltiest body of water on Earth, with a salinity of about 30 percent. Only Lake Asal (Djibouti) has a higher salinity. This is about 8.6 times greater than average ocean salinity.
The Data on the salt composition is outdated (from the early 1980's.) A more modern value should be obtained and the latter discarded or the modern value and the old value could be combined in a chart. Marsu, 14.09 25. October 2009 (UTC)
I have introduced a point of disagreement in the lead sentence, so rather start an edit war over it, I would like to ask for other opinions. Reading a lead sentence about a body of water that says it is the lowest point on Earth not covered by water is confusing to the reader, is it not? I have tried to edit this twice, in two different ways, and these edits have been reverted. There are other ways to clarify this besides how I have done it, but I thought I would ask for other opinions first. -- Sfmammamia 17:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to Lake Baikal; that clarifies where my earlier edits went wrong. Here's a suggested edit of the lead paragraph that I think is less confusing and still correct, posted here rather than as a bold edit to see if it causes any further objections:
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This article claims "Israeli experts say it is nine times saltier than the Mediterranean Sea (31.5% salt versus 3.5% for the Mediterranean)." but the Sea water article figure seems to show the Mediterranean to be around 3.8/3.9%. 3.5% seems to be the mean salinity of all ocean water, the Mediterranean is saltier. Also, a reference to the "Israeli experts" is missing. The inconsistency should be corrected; I don't know what's correct. —Preceding [[Wikipe dia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by 213.47.181.20 ( talk) 15:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The opening picture "Sunset" has no encyclopedic value. please consider changing it something which can be directly attributed to Dead Sea. - A lay user
The Hebrew Translation is wrong. It's either "Sea of the Salt" or "The Salt Sea". "Yam HaMelakh" Literally translated is "Sea the Salt", but the of can be implied, as in "Yom Huledet" which is day of birth (i.e. birthday). Here "Hamelakh" means the salt, as the Hebrew prexid ha means the, with melakh meaning salt. However, it could also mean "The Salt Sea". However, this is unlikely, as this type of language is uncommon in modern Hebrew. . Just as "Yam Suf" means "Sea of Reeds", the Red Sea, Yam Hamelakh would mean Sea of the Salt, not just Sea of Salt. Smartyllama ( talk) 11:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
"This salinity makes for a harsh environment where animals cannot flourish and boats cannot sail." - why does high salinity mean boats can't sail? AKM ( talk) 11:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC) the Dead sea is a lake actally —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.255.252.76 ( talk) 17:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
On the top of the page, I added this as per Template:Otheruses:
thanks, Ikip ( talk) 09:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be an ongoing dispute about the order in which the languages are displayed in the lead sentence. I can see justifications for two lines of thought: 1) display them alphabetically, in which case Arabic should appear first. 2) display them in agreement with the geography that appears in the sentence, i.e., Israel and Jordan (Hebrew, then Arabic). If the order is changed to alphabetical (Arabic first), then perhaps we should change the order of the country names as well? Any other thoughts? -- Sfmammamia 17:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
The Dead Sea lies in the Jordan Rift Zone, therefore, vulcanism should be expected. Are signs of vulcanism found in the geology of the Dead Sea or the region round about? It's interesting that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah described in Genesis Ch. 19 was accomplished with fire and brimstone, which are usually associated with vulcanism. More on the geology of the region would be appropriate to the article. Virgil H. Soule ( talk) 06:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
I have read of a "monster" elephant that tourists had come to seek, for 250 years before WWI, in the Dead Sea area. Does anybody have information? It was a type of Loch Ness thing. I read about it in a booklet by the Society for Protection of Nature on the 1912 survey of the Dead Sea area. פשוט pashute ♫ ( talk) 17:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
The story of Lot is shared by all Judaic faiths, which includes Judaism, Islam and Christianity. Thus, it does not make sense to repeat it in separate sections "In Judaism" and "In Islam": there should be one section entitled "In Judaism, Christianity and Islam". - Pgan002 ( talk) 21:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
This is not history. Like the wiki article on the North Pole and Santa Claus, this should be called cultural association. —Preceding
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This site: [ Ynet] is about recent religious conflict between Islamics and Jews about the DeadSea. Agre22 ( talk) 15:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)agre22
Wikipedia should give as much facts as possible. So when was the Dead sea divided in two? State year please.
Bjarnulf, Oslo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.209.87.61 ( talk) 00:14, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Before the destruction, the Dead Sea was a valley full of natural tar pits, which was called the vale of Siddim.
Might "tar pits" be a mistranslation? How could the Hebrews have known about tar pits? In historical times there were no such things in the Old World.-- 80.141.246.121 ( talk) 22:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
The article claims that the Dead Sea is the world's second saltiest body of water, after Lake Asal in Djibouti. It also claims that the Dead Sea's salinity is 31.5%. According to the Wikipedia Garabogazkol article, the Garabogazkol bay has a salinity of 35%. This would make the Dead Sea the third saltiest body of water. Not sure which is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.141.189 ( talk) 01:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Don Juan Pond has the highest salinity of all (40.2 % weight). And I think there's a lake of 38 % in China – I found it while doing a little research on the topic, but since I've forgotten its name, I've had a hard time finding it again. If the 35 % figure is indeed correct, Garabogazköl's omission could owe to a technicality: it's a part of a larger body of water, namely the Caspian Sea. -- Anshelm '77 ( talk) 01:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the wording that "only <list> have higher salinities". Salar de Atacama is reported to be 40% salinity, and I see no reason to believe that we haven't missed any others, especially if you count something like Don Juan Pond. Secondly, I don't feel that ranking the "most saline" lakes is meaningful. For one, I believe they are subject to fluctuate quite a bit: the Great Salt Lake's salinity is given as 5-27% depending on the water level (and I believe it is saturated at 27%, or that would be higher). The saltiest lakes at any given time will likely be saturated, so it doesn't matter how much salt is available at all, just what it is composed of. If my change is reverted, please provide a citation that those lakes and no others are saltier. Kjsharke ( talk) 15:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
A part of the dead sea's short is in the West Bank. This territory is not part of Israel (nor of Jordan) so it should be added independently; This territory is controlled by the Israeli army in part, and by the Palestinian national authority. Anyway - it is not considered an Israeli territory by any country in the world, including Israel itself. Only East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were declared Israeli by Israel after the 1967 war. The areas to the Dead Sea's shore weren't. Ben Gershon - בן גרשון ( Talk) 03:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by בן גרשון ( talk • contribs)
The Dead Sea borders mainly the West bank to the west, see this map: [2] -- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 02:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
ElComandanteChe, West banks border to the Dead Sea is about double the length then Israels, so West Bank should be before Israel.-- Supreme Deliciousness ( talk) 18:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The last section of the article is titled "Saving the Red Sea", but the threat is not well explained. It is touched upon early in the article in this sentence:
The article currently [3] has this line in the lead section:
Could this be explained better? I have always read how hypersalinity makes drowning nearly impossible (because everyone floats without trying), and while that does not necessarily preclude making swimming difficult, it does seem nearly at odds. Perhaps a discussion of the mechanics of swimming in hypersaline waters? 98.82.3.81 ( talk) 04:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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I have attempted to clarify references to a Bible but it was reverted stating it ws clear it was the "Hebrew Bible". My addition was "Christian Bible". I don't know if there is a difference. Since there are many Bibles and many religions based upon these "holy lands" assumption of this identifier is not satisfactory for clarity. Conceit of religious beliefs does not make it clear to the whole world which Bible is being referred to. I suggest a clarification adjective be added to all occurrences where the type of bible is not identified by a section title or previous clarification in the same paragragh. 99.251.114.120 ( talk) 12:31, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia Articles state that the Dead Sea is the most saline body of water...however the Red Sea (in it's wikipedia article) has "Salinity ranges between 36 and 38 ‰" Compared to the Dead Sea's "salinity of about 30%" These two seem incompable, so someone should look into this...
The Salton Sea in California is listed at 40% salinity, which would seem to contradict the claims here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.234.242 ( talk • contribs).
Epoch era ( talk) 22:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)The Salton Sea is a man made lake created to collect water including salt water Epoch era ( talk)
The natural history is very unclear to me... Too confusing. SkyScrapers 14:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Epoch era (
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Epoch era ( talk) 21:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)Climate changes during the previous Ice Ages occurred in and affected the Northern Hemisphere rather than the Southern Hemisphere therefore The Dead Sea hasn't seen a lot of climate changes and probably never will Epoch era ( talk) 21:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
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"The sea has a density of 1.24 kg/L,[citation needed] which makes swimming similar to floating.[5]" This reads like a nonsense statement and delivers a very confused message. The bouyancy concept is stated elsewhere in the article and the reference article reads like non-native English speaking children wrote it. I propose the whole statement be removed. Please adhere to WP:NPOV. 99.251.114.120 ( talk) 12:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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Who was the first to discover that its surface is below sea level, and when was it discovered? -- 80.131.223.109 ( talk) 13:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Epoch era ( talk) 19:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC)bees Epoch era ( talk) 19:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC) Epoch era ( talk) 17:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)The Dead Sea was a prehistoric flood plain, tidal pool or beach? Epoch era ( talk) 17:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
The data on potash production here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea#Industry doesn't match the equivalent data here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potash#Fertilizers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.172.79.49 ( talk) 06:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
The Arabic name for the Dead Sea translates directly as The Dead Sea. The arabic written in the opening portion (البحر الميت) is translated as The Dead Sea. I'm not sure if I've ever heard it referred to as the Sea of Lot (which would be written as بحر لوط), but I don't dispute that could also be referenced to in that way. Soviak
That's interesting that the Arabic says "Dead Sea." The Sea of Lot bit came from a book I read about the Dead Sea by Barbara Krieger. This website refers to the DS as "Bahr Lut." Could you add "Bahr Lut"? http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?pp/matpc:@field(NUMBER+@band(matpc+07359)) So does this one. http://www.o-allah.com/php/travel6.php Dinopup 00:19, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I'm a translator by occupation but not a native speaker. I'm also new to editing content on Wikipedia and want to provide something useful in an area I have some expertise at. The DS is called "Al Bahr Al Mayyit" in arabic in news broadcasts, on the arabic Wikipedia, and on this website http://lexicorient.com/e.o/dead_sea.htm . It's the way i've found it most commonly used. I've ran through my dictionaries and the most reliable one says that "Bahr Lut" is used as well. How about the following as a proposed way of wording it:
In Arabic the Dead Sea, "Al Bahr Al Mayyit", is also called "Bahr Lut" meaning "the Sea of Lot." In past times Arabs called it the "Sea of Zoar," after a nearby town. To the Greeks, the Dead Sea was "Lake Asphaltites." (see below)
Kudos and Wikilove on the flora/fauna edit. I would have just posted this change in the first place on my own, but I'm still lacking confidence. Soviak
Are you sure it's Bahr al-mayyit? I've never heard death as "mayyit" (but then, I'm just an arabic student, not a translator), but only as mawt. Are they both used, or is mayyit coloquial (it seems to just be a different form w/ w->y as often happens). -
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I've discovered another name for it from an old map.Lake Al-Motanah; see http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~31563~1150042:A-new-map-of-Arabia-divided-into-it?showTip=false&showTipAdvancedSearch=false&title=Search+Results%3A+List_no+equal+to+%272310.057%27&thumbnailViewUrlKey=link.view.search.url&helpUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lunaimaging.com%2Fsupport%2F6_0%2FLUNA%2Fen%2FAbout_Luna_and_Insight.htm&fullTextSearchChecked=&advancedSearchUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lunaimaging.com%2Fsupport%2F6_0%2FLUNA%2Fen%2FAdvanced_Search.htm . Also mentioned here: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=vX5MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=lake+almotanah&source=bl&ots=kYSBLNs2-r&sig=z5XA675IDJeSh3zQM-qjzeXbB90&hl=en&sa=X&ei=quC8UIK0J-fP0QXgwoGYDw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=lake%20almotanah&f=false . I am not a regular editor and don't know the full etiquette of editing the article. Subhi ( talk) 18:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I removed a number of images from this article, including the gallery. Availability is not sufficient reason to add an image; WP style cautions against overwhelming an article with images. Anyway, there's a large Commons gallery, for which a link is provided. Some images did not relate clearly to the text they were placed beside, maybe due to poor captioning, or gradual migration after numerous edits. If I could not relocate an image to an appropriate section, I removed it. Also, I removed 3 out of 4 panoramic images from the Health effects section; they gave the section too much weight. Richigi ( talk) 18:48, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I think the list of saltiest lakes is unnecessary in the first paragraph.-- Abuk SABUK ( talk) 10:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Did you know that the the Dead Sea is to salty that you can't sink? Try it! 12KaiJie333 Growtopia ( talk) 11:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
This article currently violates WP:NPOV. It is neutral to say it borders the West Bank, not "State of Palestine." Saying "State of Palestine" is extremely POV because such a place does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.109.37.64 ( talk) 03:13, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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I think the lead sentence should refer in some way to the fact that the West Bank/ Palestinian territories/ State of Palestine borders the Dead Sea. I favour the current wording, which uses "Palestine" and pipes to the "State of Palestine" article (the " Palestine" article is about the historical region). The State of Palestine is recognised by the UN and has defined borders, and I prefer the word "Palestine" without the "State of" as more neutral. I do recognise that subtleties of language are involved, so I think that discussing the wording here, and trying to find a consensus, would be a good idea. Tenthweb ( talk) 23:45, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
ESSENTIAL facts missing or relegated to the bottom of the article. The LEAD at least should be rewritten.
- The DS is fast disappearing - by over 1 m of depth per year! Shoreline on less steep Israeli shore is fast retreating, Jordan less affected (very steep shore).
- The DS consists of TWO BASINS, the shallow S one is by now fully artificial, consisting of evaporation ponds only kept alive by the Dead Sea Works pumping water from N basin. Is a "suspended pond" kept from emptying by man-made dams. Most Israeli hotels are located there and benefit from constant water level.
- The sinkholes are not a footnote, but a huge phenomenon.
- ALL dimensions from the INFOBOX, lead, and article proper should be re-checked. They seem to refer to the N basin only - whatever the case, this should be MENTIONED, since the S basin, artificial as it is today, adds another good third to the length, shore length, and surface of the DS.
- Wadi Mujib, the biblical River Arnon, is an important tributary, but doesn't get a single mention.
No time, sorry. Who picks up the challenge?
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According to Islamic and Biblical traditions, the Dead Sea is the site of the ancient city of Sodom, home of the Prophet Lut (Lot), peace be upon him.
The Quran describes the people of Sodom as ignorant, wicked, evildoers who rejected God's call to righteousness. The people were murderers, thiefs, and openly practiced immoral sexual behavior. Lut perservered in preaching God's message, but found that even his own wife was one of the disbelievers. God severely punished the people of this region for their wickedness. According to the Quran, the punishment was to "turn the cities upside down, and rain down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread layer on layer, marked from your Lord" (Quran 11:82-83). The site of this punishment is now the Dead Sea, standing as a symbol of destruction.
The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, reportedly tried to dissuade people from visiting the sites of God's punishment: "Do not enter the place of those who were unjust to themselves, unless you are weeping, lest you should suffer the same punishment as was inflicted upon them."
The Quran describes that the site of this punishment has been left as a sign for those who follow: "Surely! In this are signs for those who understand. And verily, they (the cities) are right on the highroad. Surely! Therein is indeed a sign for the believers." (Quran 15:75-77)
If one does visit the Dead Sea, it is recommended to spend time recalling the story of Lut, and how he stood for righteousness among his people. The Quran says, "And to Lut, too, We gave wisdom and knowledge; We saved him from the town which practiced abominations. Truly they were a people given to evil, a rebellious people. And We admitted him to Our mercy; for he was one of the righteous" (Qur'an 21:74-75).
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The indicated ISRAMAR website URL ( [4]) is long outdated, leads automatically to [5], where it only covers 1992-2010. The source indicated in the Infobox under "reference" ( [6]), "Dead Sea Data Summary 2015" on Ein Gedi station website, is more up-to-date, all the way to Dec. 2015, but that's also almost 1 year old. Arminden ( talk) 07:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Apparently there's a thriving Brine shrimp population living in the Dead Sea. The first site I checked is blacklisted on Wikipedia (genesea.edu). Can someone verify this link to be a proper source? Here's a link to a photo. This should be added to the flora and fauna section. Thx. Karel Adriaan ( talk) 17:05, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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In section "Recession and environmental concerns" add the following reference at the end of the third paragraph: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02508060.2017.1344817 (article in peer reviewed academic journal has just been published supporting this)
the same reference can be added to references 57 and 58. Thank you. 93.50.52.8 ( talk) 19:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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I'm new to wikipedia, so please be kind. I noticed today when doing reading for my Arabic class that the information on the Arabic version of this page and the English version of this page do not match when it comes to describing the length of the sea.
The English version says "The Dead Sea is 50 kilometres (31 mi) long and 15 kilometres (9 mi) wide at its widest point". It then cites the Jewish Virtual Library. However, even that source ( https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-dead-sea-vie) now says different information on the page (55 km by 18 km).
In the Arabic version it says "يصل عرض البحر الميت في أقصى حد إلى 17 كم، بينما يبلغ طوله حوالي 70 كم.", which translates basically to 70 by 17 km. Additionally, this information is from 2010 and has no updated citation since then, as well as the citation links being broken now.
I'm not really sure what the accurate information is, but I'm sure it could be accessed from someplace more reputable. It should at least be acknowledged in the article intro that the sea changes size frequently and seems to be shrinking.
Thanks, and sorry for any errors in my translation. Tovahs ( talk) 19:49, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
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Following other lakes, Dead Sea should be classified also concerning its origin as a Tektonic Lake or (more specific) Continental Rift Lake (compare: Lake Baikal). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.155.222.58 ( talk) 17:45, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
This article says it fluctuates around 31.5%, in same para as citing 34.2% and 27.6%. Later in the article it says 35% drops to 30% after rains. And, it’s 33.7% at List of bodies of water by salinity.
MBG02 ( talk) 23:06, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Two inaccuracies. First: The Biblical Hebrew term for Eastern Sea is not Yam ha-Mizrachi, but Yam ha-Kadmoni. Second: although it is indeed sometimes called Yam ha-Maavet in Modern Hebrew, which does means Sea of Death, the origin of the name Dead Sea comes from Latin: Mare Mortum. Name first given by the Roman historian Gnaeus Pompeius Trogus. Source: the Hebrew Wikipedia article. I would make the changes myself, but the page is protected. -- Rataube ( talk) 11:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
This sentence in the introduction: "Multiple canals and pipelines were proposed to reduce its recession, which had begun causing many problems." Should be edited for clarity. Hutima ( talk) 01:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Specifically, the "which had begun causing many problems" has an ambiguous antecedent and can refer either to toe proposals or to the recession and should be clarified. Hutima ( talk) 19:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
This article alternately talks about Sedom and Sodom, as if they were two different places. Use one uniform spelling, either hebr.Sedom or engl. Sodom. -- dunnhaupt ( talk) 19:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I came here because this article was flagged as needing citation (via Citation Hunt). Specifically subsection 3.4 Dead_Sea#Lake_formation. There seems to be some disagreement on specific dates. The top of the section mentions two competing theories, and there are two sources cited in the section 1 and 2.
It is possible that these flags could be resolved by reference to source 2, but I cannot access the page referenced as it is behind a paywall. Is there anyone out there with access to this text?
I have found another source 3 in which radiometric dating was used to support disconnection of the lagoon by 4.5 Ma. Rather than introduce a third set of figures to the issue and possibly discount the second source, I thought it best to share what I found here as a possible point of departure for someone better trained than myself to interpret radiometric dating and sediment layer deposition. Or for myself if I feel more ambitious in the future. DancesWithThermalPaste ( talk) 01:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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on External links add the link to deadsea.com: https://www.deadsea.com/ Naamawolff ( talk) 11:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
|answered=The Dead Sea is not just a natural phenomenon, it is also a tourist site. This website is very useful to people interested in visiting the Dead Sea as it provides information about the Dead Sea region, hiking trails, driving directions, and accommodation options. The Grand Canyon and/or the Taj Mahal pages have links to the touristic website that provides information about the site itself along with other places in the area, things to do there etc.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naamawolff ( talk • contribs) 10:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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Change Israel to Palestine 92.253.8.18 ( talk) 12:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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The Geology-->Formation theories section is completely without sources, and need some - especially regarding the two formation theories themselves. For starters, it should get {{ Unreferenced section}} -- Metalindustrien ( talk) 12:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
I don’t want to edit the page I just kind of interested why it’s locked Alien1Dude ( talk) 09:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree. I don't see a reason too. I want to update sea level from 430.5 to 434 m (source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/sinking-israel-jordan-relations-leave-dead-sea-a-natural-wonder-low-and-dry/), but i couldn't. Zemljevidec ( talk) 09:16, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
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Dear colleague. Analyzing the Dead Sea climate table, I realized that it is out of date, mainly in terms of maximum absolute temperature. ( |Jul record high C=47.0 could be changed by |Jul record high C=49.9 ) . So I would like to know if it is possible for a reissue to be made in order to update such information. Recalling that the weather station in question is called "Sedom" and the data are available in the climate table of the Israel Meteorological Service website: https://ims.gov.il/en/ClimateAtlas. Grateful for the attention. marcelo melo ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC) marcelo melo ( talk) 20:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Africa formerly Ethiopia before renamed by the spanish and portuguese + european's 2601:19B:801:9AA0:29F9:FD21:655B:3551 ( talk) 04:47, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
The Encyclopædia Britannica mentions a salinity of 33.7%, but the text of the article was changed to 34.2% here. Another source I found mentioned 33.2% ( https://www.britannica.com/place/Dead-Sea/Climate-and-hydrology) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwsi ( talk • contribs) 06:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Dated source but (a) it has slightly different Greek from what we use here (linen instead of line), (b) slightly different Arabic transcription (Bahr instead of the 3 we have), and (c) the hilarious alt Arabic name Bahr Mutneh, the Stinking or Rotting Sea. If that was ever common enough we should get the right Arabic and include it. It also has the alt English name (d) "Sea of the Desert" but I assume that was never terribly common. — LlywelynII 03:38, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
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The Dead Sea, a lake not in Israel. Lake shares borders with Israel, Palestine, and Jordan. 94.249.3.228 ( talk) 05:16, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
The average depth mentioned in the info box is wrong. The volume (as of 2015) is: 114 km3, divided with area (as of 2016) is: 605 km2. Correct average depth is: 188.4 metres. The number of 199 metres requires more volume or less area. Thanks for the attention. The lake is ranked on: Lakes by mean depth. Torbjørn Ekholm ( talk) 15:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Why is this article extended and confirmed protected? no one would try to vandalize a geography related-article that is not a sensitive topic CityOfSails2 ( talk) 09:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Because there's no country called "Palestine" and there never has been. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.151.135 ( talk) 22:55, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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