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OK, Reggie Herman, Teridax122, you guys really need to cool your jets. You are both in violation of the three revert rule and are clearly engaged in an edit war. You're lucky neither of you have been blocked. I can't even really tell what you are arguing about, but I have to concur that Reggie Herman's image should be the preferred one as Teridax122's is much larger than a standard infobox size. As to the provenance of the image, if you look at the issue in question on GCD, the penciller and colorist are who Reggie Herman says they are, and I will assume good faith that RH is telling the truth. You both ought to familiarize yourself with the WP:3RR and WP:EW guidelines so that you can avoid being blocked in the future. When you have a content dispute, take it to the talk page first. That said, if this keeps going on after my post, I will report one or both of you for edit warring. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 17:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Please see the stipulations for
Wikiproject Comics manual of style when it comes to infobox images, particularly:
With this in mind, I would argue that the image of Darkseid from Zero Hour that is on the page would be suitable. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 01:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
I would support this proposal. I have verified through GCD that Walt Simonson did draw this cover and I have digitally altered it to remove the background. Other editors are welcome to comment on this proposal. If no objections are heard within the next few days I will update the image accordingly. Though I should also add that I went through both Zero Hour #1 and COIE #8 and could not find the above-mentioned "Zero Hour" image. I will check the rest of Zero Hour, but it was not in any COIE issue. If it is not in Zero Hour, it should be deleted.
Etzedek24 (
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17:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
From the MOS, "The ideal image is a full-body, three-quarter picture of the character standing straight with no background, with a facing-the-camera or profile picture as the next-best." Your proposed image simply has too much going on with the background, and the rays of energy emanating from the eyes and hand. For our purposes, we need a more neutral image such as the Zero Hour one in the page already or the alternative Teridax122 has proposed. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 18:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Keeping in mind the Wikiproject Comics manual of style, which infobox image would best suit the article? Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 18:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Question rephrased for clarity by Argento Surfer. Original version can be seen here
His true form powers,Nigh Omnipotence,Nigh Omniscience and ...Remember this body is clone(in the animations and some comics) Mohamadwolf ( talk) 05:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Ping User:Darkknight2149 (thanks for [1] and User:TheJoebro64 and User:SL93. First, let's all make sure we know WP:AGF, right? Second, please read carefully the content of {{ Notability}}. Which for your convenience I'll quote here: "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. Please help to establish notability by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond a mere trivial mention. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted." Now, it is not saying "this topic is not notable" (this is a question for WP:AFD). This template is just pointing out the same thing that Darkknight did in his edit: that this article, in its current form, does not explain why the topic is notable. Nothing more, nothing less. For most people, no, Darkseid is not a household name (heck, I like superhero stuff, and he didn't read any bells to me then and doesn't know - yeah, so maybe I am not as geeky as I thought, but this just proves the point - for 99% of our readers, they won't know why we have the article about this fictional character). This article desperately needs a reception section and such, showing that yes, this character is notable as they meet WP:GNG/ WP:NFICTION. Since we clearly have some interested editors here, please consider adding such sections. And if you don't want to, please do not remove a template that is effectively asking for it. If you care about this topic, either improve it, or let others do so, and adding copyediting templates which indicate problems to fix/issues to address is helping this article. PS. I really hope that someone can add reception, so this doesn't end up at AfD... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:56, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm changing the image from Zero Hour, to New 52 Dangled10 ( talk) 08:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Why do you care? Etzedek24? That Zero Hour image was already used another article He who eats your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it ( talk) 15:52, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Who the heck would call themselves He who eats you're entrails and thoroughly enjoys it? I'm not trying to be mean or anything. But you have a point. That Zero Hour image was used in another article, I don't remember which. EtherealWiz ( talk) 07:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Please don't kill my image. I took a lot of work making it. But Etzedek24 has a point. EtherealWiz too. I can take the image from this article, and put back the Zero Hour one. But, please, I had hard work uploading the image. I always have, because my fingers have complicated pains. And I don't really know everything you need to write to upload, but have been learning. Please let the image be in any article related to Darkseid, or this article. I would appreciate it. Dangled10 ( talk) 09:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
The size has been reduced. Dangled10 ( talk) 09:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Ok User:JokEobard, here I am. Those powers are far more known than his telepathy power. Isn’t that your argument? Only well known powers. Telepathy is something he barely does anyways. He is a skilled fighter having trained for years as well being being a brilliant tactician. Ziggy Coltrane ( talk) 22:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Darkseid is five billion years old in the prime earth universe during the New 52 and DC Rebirth era. Trump2000 ( talk) 01:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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OK, Reggie Herman, Teridax122, you guys really need to cool your jets. You are both in violation of the three revert rule and are clearly engaged in an edit war. You're lucky neither of you have been blocked. I can't even really tell what you are arguing about, but I have to concur that Reggie Herman's image should be the preferred one as Teridax122's is much larger than a standard infobox size. As to the provenance of the image, if you look at the issue in question on GCD, the penciller and colorist are who Reggie Herman says they are, and I will assume good faith that RH is telling the truth. You both ought to familiarize yourself with the WP:3RR and WP:EW guidelines so that you can avoid being blocked in the future. When you have a content dispute, take it to the talk page first. That said, if this keeps going on after my post, I will report one or both of you for edit warring. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 17:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Please see the stipulations for
Wikiproject Comics manual of style when it comes to infobox images, particularly:
With this in mind, I would argue that the image of Darkseid from Zero Hour that is on the page would be suitable. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 01:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
I would support this proposal. I have verified through GCD that Walt Simonson did draw this cover and I have digitally altered it to remove the background. Other editors are welcome to comment on this proposal. If no objections are heard within the next few days I will update the image accordingly. Though I should also add that I went through both Zero Hour #1 and COIE #8 and could not find the above-mentioned "Zero Hour" image. I will check the rest of Zero Hour, but it was not in any COIE issue. If it is not in Zero Hour, it should be deleted.
Etzedek24 (
I'll talk at ya) (
Check my track record)
17:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
From the MOS, "The ideal image is a full-body, three-quarter picture of the character standing straight with no background, with a facing-the-camera or profile picture as the next-best." Your proposed image simply has too much going on with the background, and the rays of energy emanating from the eyes and hand. For our purposes, we need a more neutral image such as the Zero Hour one in the page already or the alternative Teridax122 has proposed. Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 18:43, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Keeping in mind the Wikiproject Comics manual of style, which infobox image would best suit the article? Etzedek24 ( I'll talk at ya) ( Check my track record) 18:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Question rephrased for clarity by Argento Surfer. Original version can be seen here
His true form powers,Nigh Omnipotence,Nigh Omniscience and ...Remember this body is clone(in the animations and some comics) Mohamadwolf ( talk) 05:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Ping User:Darkknight2149 (thanks for [1] and User:TheJoebro64 and User:SL93. First, let's all make sure we know WP:AGF, right? Second, please read carefully the content of {{ Notability}}. Which for your convenience I'll quote here: "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. Please help to establish notability by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond a mere trivial mention. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted." Now, it is not saying "this topic is not notable" (this is a question for WP:AFD). This template is just pointing out the same thing that Darkknight did in his edit: that this article, in its current form, does not explain why the topic is notable. Nothing more, nothing less. For most people, no, Darkseid is not a household name (heck, I like superhero stuff, and he didn't read any bells to me then and doesn't know - yeah, so maybe I am not as geeky as I thought, but this just proves the point - for 99% of our readers, they won't know why we have the article about this fictional character). This article desperately needs a reception section and such, showing that yes, this character is notable as they meet WP:GNG/ WP:NFICTION. Since we clearly have some interested editors here, please consider adding such sections. And if you don't want to, please do not remove a template that is effectively asking for it. If you care about this topic, either improve it, or let others do so, and adding copyediting templates which indicate problems to fix/issues to address is helping this article. PS. I really hope that someone can add reception, so this doesn't end up at AfD... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:56, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm changing the image from Zero Hour, to New 52 Dangled10 ( talk) 08:33, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Why do you care? Etzedek24? That Zero Hour image was already used another article He who eats your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it ( talk) 15:52, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Who the heck would call themselves He who eats you're entrails and thoroughly enjoys it? I'm not trying to be mean or anything. But you have a point. That Zero Hour image was used in another article, I don't remember which. EtherealWiz ( talk) 07:59, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Please don't kill my image. I took a lot of work making it. But Etzedek24 has a point. EtherealWiz too. I can take the image from this article, and put back the Zero Hour one. But, please, I had hard work uploading the image. I always have, because my fingers have complicated pains. And I don't really know everything you need to write to upload, but have been learning. Please let the image be in any article related to Darkseid, or this article. I would appreciate it. Dangled10 ( talk) 09:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
The size has been reduced. Dangled10 ( talk) 09:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Ok User:JokEobard, here I am. Those powers are far more known than his telepathy power. Isn’t that your argument? Only well known powers. Telepathy is something he barely does anyways. He is a skilled fighter having trained for years as well being being a brilliant tactician. Ziggy Coltrane ( talk) 22:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Darkseid is five billion years old in the prime earth universe during the New 52 and DC Rebirth era. Trump2000 ( talk) 01:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)