Dark Helios's second form looks like the metal dragon in Syvalion as seen here Devilmanozzy ( talk) 06:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, the game has been announced for overseas release (for some time now) under the name "Dariusburst". Can I move it please please please?
Also, because of this choice, a lot of sites are beginning to use this title. 174.111.82.239 ( talk) 06:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Read debate Wikipedia talk:Archive 79 "Darius Burst naming". Devilmanozzy ( talk) 06:17, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm tired of fighting this, because absolutely no one else cares. It's not surprising, which makes it all the more saddening. I have read WP:COMMONNAME a million times, and it has nothing to do with this particular situation. I always knew some other articles to stay as true as possible to the common trademarks, and others to not, with no explanation other than "some particular editors prefer one path over the other". Thus, the problems are two-fold; the guidelines are not being upheld consistently, and the guidelines themselves are flawed for not covering this situation adequately despite attempts to argue the wording for doing so. I will not provide examples. You need to look into this yourselves.
Avoiding capitalization is one thing, but we've descended into making things up. At this point, we should be arguing why "Super Mario Bros." is titled that, and why using translated names for games that have never received such translations is not original research. Despatche ( talk) 12:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
To all parties concerned, stop moving this page back and forth. Despatche, you obviously did not manage to get consensus for this page move. To then wait almost two months to once again moving this page when no one is looking does not look good. I took a look at the sources on the article, and it seems Darius Burst is the common name used. I note a distinct lack of reliable sources concerning the name, since the game hasn't seen a English language release, but we'll use what we have.-- Atlan ( talk) 22:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is the (previously unavailable) English language version of Taito's corporate homepage on the "Another Chronicle" arcade game: [1]. As far as naming goes, the primary source should take precedence over secondary sources. Please discuss.-- Atlan ( talk) 13:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Of course all these databases are going to use "Darius Burst", that's what it was reported under. Same for "DeathSmiles", "Death Smiles", and "Thunderforce"... you see this all the time. It's on Taito's actual website as "Dariusburst" and the printed soundtracks still use that form. Devilmanozzy certainly knows this. That's much better than tweets.
This doesn't really have much to do with the Japanese language. This is actually how the title was drawn up, written down, advertised as, etc. They write the Japanese form of G-Darius without the hyphen, but it's still used for everything else, etc. Same with Darius Gaiden and the usual space between the words. It's exactly like Deathsmiles and Thunder Force here. Like I said, it probably wouldn't be difficult to get these databases to change it, anyway. Despatche ( talk) 17:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 23:34, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Darius Burst →
Dariusburst – Due to various arguments (see above) and
certain evidence, etc, policies such as WP:COMMONNAME aren't so easy to fight for here. It's one thing to argue against "technically correct but rarer" titles, but it's another to argue for a typo. It's no different from correcting any given typo in an article itself. Whether "Dariusburst" is a "mistake" is a completely different discussion. Relisted.
Arbitrarily0 (
talk) 02:35, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Despatche (
talk)
04:33, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
It would only look proper if the two words were separated in the title. Not too sure why there is such a big fuss about it.
I was about to accept "Dariusburst" as correct, but then I noticed an instance of camel case in the official site - what do you think?
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Dark Helios's second form looks like the metal dragon in Syvalion as seen here Devilmanozzy ( talk) 06:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, the game has been announced for overseas release (for some time now) under the name "Dariusburst". Can I move it please please please?
Also, because of this choice, a lot of sites are beginning to use this title. 174.111.82.239 ( talk) 06:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Read debate Wikipedia talk:Archive 79 "Darius Burst naming". Devilmanozzy ( talk) 06:17, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I'm tired of fighting this, because absolutely no one else cares. It's not surprising, which makes it all the more saddening. I have read WP:COMMONNAME a million times, and it has nothing to do with this particular situation. I always knew some other articles to stay as true as possible to the common trademarks, and others to not, with no explanation other than "some particular editors prefer one path over the other". Thus, the problems are two-fold; the guidelines are not being upheld consistently, and the guidelines themselves are flawed for not covering this situation adequately despite attempts to argue the wording for doing so. I will not provide examples. You need to look into this yourselves.
Avoiding capitalization is one thing, but we've descended into making things up. At this point, we should be arguing why "Super Mario Bros." is titled that, and why using translated names for games that have never received such translations is not original research. Despatche ( talk) 12:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
To all parties concerned, stop moving this page back and forth. Despatche, you obviously did not manage to get consensus for this page move. To then wait almost two months to once again moving this page when no one is looking does not look good. I took a look at the sources on the article, and it seems Darius Burst is the common name used. I note a distinct lack of reliable sources concerning the name, since the game hasn't seen a English language release, but we'll use what we have.-- Atlan ( talk) 22:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Here is the (previously unavailable) English language version of Taito's corporate homepage on the "Another Chronicle" arcade game: [1]. As far as naming goes, the primary source should take precedence over secondary sources. Please discuss.-- Atlan ( talk) 13:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Of course all these databases are going to use "Darius Burst", that's what it was reported under. Same for "DeathSmiles", "Death Smiles", and "Thunderforce"... you see this all the time. It's on Taito's actual website as "Dariusburst" and the printed soundtracks still use that form. Devilmanozzy certainly knows this. That's much better than tweets.
This doesn't really have much to do with the Japanese language. This is actually how the title was drawn up, written down, advertised as, etc. They write the Japanese form of G-Darius without the hyphen, but it's still used for everything else, etc. Same with Darius Gaiden and the usual space between the words. It's exactly like Deathsmiles and Thunder Force here. Like I said, it probably wouldn't be difficult to get these databases to change it, anyway. Despatche ( talk) 17:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 23:34, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
Darius Burst →
Dariusburst – Due to various arguments (see above) and
certain evidence, etc, policies such as WP:COMMONNAME aren't so easy to fight for here. It's one thing to argue against "technically correct but rarer" titles, but it's another to argue for a typo. It's no different from correcting any given typo in an article itself. Whether "Dariusburst" is a "mistake" is a completely different discussion. Relisted.
Arbitrarily0 (
talk) 02:35, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Despatche (
talk)
04:33, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
It would only look proper if the two words were separated in the title. Not too sure why there is such a big fuss about it.
I was about to accept "Dariusburst" as correct, but then I noticed an instance of camel case in the official site - what do you think?