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One lone woman can't change the English rules for capitalization of proper nouns. Capitalize it correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.15.218.45 ( talk) 19:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
This is your occasional reminder that the current Manual of Style would recommend this article use "danah boyd" (which has regular and established use in reliable third-party sources and is the subject's preference), and that the continued deviation from the guideline is a source of persistent surprise and confusion for anyone who isn't a Wikipedia admin. Anyone feel brave enough to propose the move? Ubernostrum ( talk) 10:17, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Done. Asbruckman ( talk) 16:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC) I changed the body, but I think an admin needs to do the move? Asbruckman ( talk) 16:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Per MOS:CAP, sentences that begin with "Boyd" should use a capital letter. This does not fit the exceptions under " Items that require initial lower case" for mathematical constants or "trademarks beginning with a one-letter lowercase prefix pronounced as a separate letter, followed by a capitalized second letter." Therefore, standard English capitalization rules apply to those sentences. -- 167.165.222.48 ( talk) 17:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 17:11, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Danah Boyd →
Danah boyd – The article subject prefers
danah boyd to
Danah Boyd, and a significant number of reliable source publications (though not the majority) use the lowercase spelling as well.
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) offers the guidance that "when uncapitalized forms are the normal English usage (
abelian group,
k.d. lang), we follow common usage." Since reliable sources are divided on the capitalization of the name, I think it's fair to say that both
danah boyd and
Danah Boyd can reasonably be considered "common usage." Given that, and the article subject's preference, I propose moving the page to
danah boyd.
28bytes (
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18:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
So we should change the capitalization throughout the article to ensure consistency with the title, right? ElKevbo ( talk) 18:36, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
What do you think about this as documentation of boyd's non-trivial affiliation with NYU?
http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/news/2011/9/23/danah_boyd_Joins_MCC_as_Research_Assistant_Professor
Bellagio99 ( talk) 16:42, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
As a lot of other related edits have also been done, hold-off reverting until the concise points raised in the style guide are addressed, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Caps_.22Items_that_require_initial_lower_case.22_.28partially.29_scrap_or_edit.3F Jimthing ( talk) 23:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
@ HelicopterLlama: I set some uppercase aliases in Wikidata and made the change on this page that you reverted based on the uppercase name at http://www.danah.org/name.html. Should we defer to the subject's own usage? Or is this already covered in a past discussion? -- Jeremyb ( talk) 16:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
It looks very unprofessional to have a name in lowercases like this. Not to mention goes against English writing convention.Reverted.-- Cartamandua ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:13, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. I would like to update the "Honors and awards" section, adding more information about the speeches that she has recently given.
· "What Hath We Wrought?" at SXSW EDU 2018 · "Hacking Big Data" at University of Texas at Austin
Parprae ( talk) 16:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Just do it!! Bellagio99 ( talk) 18:03, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
No consensus. Don't see general agreement below with opposition's strong arguments and show of reliable sources against little determined rebuttal. So this article will retain its stable title and stylization for now. It may take a subtle change in the MOS before this title can justifiably be restyled, which is a discussion for another venue. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can strengthen their args and try again in a few months to garner consensus for restyling. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! ( nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth put'r there 05:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Danah boyd → Danah Boyd – Seriously? This is a vanity stylism. And that was 2011, but Telegraph interview 2014 no longer insisting on it. In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:57, 21 June 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 23:57, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
"Exceptions are made when the lowercase variant has received regular and established use in reliable third party sources".It's literally an exception. -- wooden superman 08:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Even given that we present her name in all lower case, doesn't the "capitalize the first word of a sentence" rule still apply? We have "boyd grew up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and Altoona, Pennsylvania" in the article, with "boyd" being the first word of the sentence. Shouldn't that be "Boyd grew up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and Altoona, Pennsylvania"? -- Khajidha ( talk) 14:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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One lone woman can't change the English rules for capitalization of proper nouns. Capitalize it correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.15.218.45 ( talk) 19:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
This is your occasional reminder that the current Manual of Style would recommend this article use "danah boyd" (which has regular and established use in reliable third-party sources and is the subject's preference), and that the continued deviation from the guideline is a source of persistent surprise and confusion for anyone who isn't a Wikipedia admin. Anyone feel brave enough to propose the move? Ubernostrum ( talk) 10:17, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Done. Asbruckman ( talk) 16:14, 18 April 2011 (UTC) I changed the body, but I think an admin needs to do the move? Asbruckman ( talk) 16:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Per MOS:CAP, sentences that begin with "Boyd" should use a capital letter. This does not fit the exceptions under " Items that require initial lower case" for mathematical constants or "trademarks beginning with a one-letter lowercase prefix pronounced as a separate letter, followed by a capitalized second letter." Therefore, standard English capitalization rules apply to those sentences. -- 167.165.222.48 ( talk) 17:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian ( talk) 17:11, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Danah Boyd →
Danah boyd – The article subject prefers
danah boyd to
Danah Boyd, and a significant number of reliable source publications (though not the majority) use the lowercase spelling as well.
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) offers the guidance that "when uncapitalized forms are the normal English usage (
abelian group,
k.d. lang), we follow common usage." Since reliable sources are divided on the capitalization of the name, I think it's fair to say that both
danah boyd and
Danah Boyd can reasonably be considered "common usage." Given that, and the article subject's preference, I propose moving the page to
danah boyd.
28bytes (
talk)
18:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
So we should change the capitalization throughout the article to ensure consistency with the title, right? ElKevbo ( talk) 18:36, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
What do you think about this as documentation of boyd's non-trivial affiliation with NYU?
http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/news/2011/9/23/danah_boyd_Joins_MCC_as_Research_Assistant_Professor
Bellagio99 ( talk) 16:42, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
As a lot of other related edits have also been done, hold-off reverting until the concise points raised in the style guide are addressed, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Caps_.22Items_that_require_initial_lower_case.22_.28partially.29_scrap_or_edit.3F Jimthing ( talk) 23:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
@ HelicopterLlama: I set some uppercase aliases in Wikidata and made the change on this page that you reverted based on the uppercase name at http://www.danah.org/name.html. Should we defer to the subject's own usage? Or is this already covered in a past discussion? -- Jeremyb ( talk) 16:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
It looks very unprofessional to have a name in lowercases like this. Not to mention goes against English writing convention.Reverted.-- Cartamandua ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:13, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. I would like to update the "Honors and awards" section, adding more information about the speeches that she has recently given.
· "What Hath We Wrought?" at SXSW EDU 2018 · "Hacking Big Data" at University of Texas at Austin
Parprae ( talk) 16:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Just do it!! Bellagio99 ( talk) 18:03, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
No consensus. Don't see general agreement below with opposition's strong arguments and show of reliable sources against little determined rebuttal. So this article will retain its stable title and stylization for now. It may take a subtle change in the MOS before this title can justifiably be restyled, which is a discussion for another venue. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can strengthen their args and try again in a few months to garner consensus for restyling. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! ( nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth put'r there 05:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Danah boyd → Danah Boyd – Seriously? This is a vanity stylism. And that was 2011, but Telegraph interview 2014 no longer insisting on it. In ictu oculi ( talk) 06:57, 21 June 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 23:57, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
"Exceptions are made when the lowercase variant has received regular and established use in reliable third party sources".It's literally an exception. -- wooden superman 08:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Even given that we present her name in all lower case, doesn't the "capitalize the first word of a sentence" rule still apply? We have "boyd grew up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and Altoona, Pennsylvania" in the article, with "boyd" being the first word of the sentence. Shouldn't that be "Boyd grew up in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and Altoona, Pennsylvania"? -- Khajidha ( talk) 14:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)