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Oppose the two entities overlap but are not the same. Also, no good reason has been enunciated for a redirect. If a redirect is called for anywhere, it would be from Aryan Valley to Dha Hanu, it seems to me.
Elinruby (
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11:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect Aryan Valley to this page, and broaden this page to cover all the four villages. That is the sense I see Shaw, 1978 having used the term. If some other explorers used the phrase differently it could be because Garkon and Darchik were in Baltistan in the 19th century. (I don't know exactly when the admin divisions got changed.) The "Aryan" content of the
Aryan Valley page can probably be put into the
Brokpa page. --
Kautilya3 (
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22:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)reply
There is a certain amount of geographical information in Frederic Drew and R. B. Shaw. There are also war-time developments that can be covered. --
Kautilya3 (
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17:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)reply
After some long search, I discovered that Darchik and Garkon had always been in the Kargil ilaqa (as also Chulichan and other villages on the left bank), but the entire Kargil ilaqa was associated with Skardu in the 19th century. Kargil was made a separate tehsil during 1908–1911. More interestingly, when Kargil became a tehsil, the Kharmang ilaqa immediately to the north of Kargil was also made part of this tehsil. It got removed only through the
Indo-Pakistani War of 1947–1948. (
Aggarwal, Beyond Lines of Control 2004, pp. 199–200) (
Census of India, 1911 1912, p. 52) --
Kautilya3 (
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10:24, 9 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The villages of Da and Garkunu were ruled by magspons, or “dukes,” just as the Baltis were; but these villages have always been independent of Baltistan.
Redirect to Aryan Valley for now as that's the more developed one. Whether the name of the page should be "Aryan Valley" or "Dah Hanu" can be discussed in a new discussion on that page and same goes for what content should be included or not. Tayi ArajakateTalk01:33, 18 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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Oppose the two entities overlap but are not the same. Also, no good reason has been enunciated for a redirect. If a redirect is called for anywhere, it would be from Aryan Valley to Dha Hanu, it seems to me.
Elinruby (
talk)
11:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect Aryan Valley to this page, and broaden this page to cover all the four villages. That is the sense I see Shaw, 1978 having used the term. If some other explorers used the phrase differently it could be because Garkon and Darchik were in Baltistan in the 19th century. (I don't know exactly when the admin divisions got changed.) The "Aryan" content of the
Aryan Valley page can probably be put into the
Brokpa page. --
Kautilya3 (
talk)
22:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)reply
There is a certain amount of geographical information in Frederic Drew and R. B. Shaw. There are also war-time developments that can be covered. --
Kautilya3 (
talk)
17:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)reply
After some long search, I discovered that Darchik and Garkon had always been in the Kargil ilaqa (as also Chulichan and other villages on the left bank), but the entire Kargil ilaqa was associated with Skardu in the 19th century. Kargil was made a separate tehsil during 1908–1911. More interestingly, when Kargil became a tehsil, the Kharmang ilaqa immediately to the north of Kargil was also made part of this tehsil. It got removed only through the
Indo-Pakistani War of 1947–1948. (
Aggarwal, Beyond Lines of Control 2004, pp. 199–200) (
Census of India, 1911 1912, p. 52) --
Kautilya3 (
talk)
10:24, 9 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The villages of Da and Garkunu were ruled by magspons, or “dukes,” just as the Baltis were; but these villages have always been independent of Baltistan.
Redirect to Aryan Valley for now as that's the more developed one. Whether the name of the page should be "Aryan Valley" or "Dah Hanu" can be discussed in a new discussion on that page and same goes for what content should be included or not. Tayi ArajakateTalk01:33, 18 March 2023 (UTC)reply