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Can anyone find any reference to the meaning of "Dôtanuki" meaning 'cuts through torsos'. The final two kanji are used as a place name and a family name in Japan and I think it far more likely that it was a smithe's name or location. This strongly sounds like Japanese fan lore.
The article mentions Kozure Ookami's hero's sword as being of wakizashi's length. I'm not sure about the manga, I don't have one with me, but in the movies, Ogami Itto's sword seems certainly longer than a wakizashi. A wakizashi length sword would hardly be practical to give the todome of a seppuku. Alestane 03:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
The reference to http://www.paralumun.com/swdot.htm seems more than a little dubious. It's not a reference to an actual history site or a reference to a decent book, rather it's just a naked page with pretty dubious claims. I'd like to remove it. Pmw2cc ( talk) 21:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to remove the sentence, "The dōtanuki was made to slice through a target with just a single cut and was the only sword capable of slicing in half a samurai wearing full armour.", as it seems partly nonsensical (in that all swords are designed to slice/cut with a single cut) and there's no evidence that the dōtanuki has any special power to cut through armor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmw2cc ( talk • contribs) 16:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I think the main issue with this article is the confusion between historical and fictional meanings of the term “dōtanuki”. Dōtanuki are an important trope in jidaigeki, videogames etc., and I agree this use deserves to be documented, but we should be careful to distinguish from actual fact.
I took the liberty to add several pieces of info from ja.wikipedia. They’re unsourced, but in my humble opinion ja.wikipedia was still more reliable than the lame iai sword sellers people have been using as references here. I also removed a meaningless, unsourced claim (that “dōtanuki were made to cut in a single stroke”) and a reference that 404ed.
If you feel this edit was bad feel free to improve it, but let’s try to find good sources and to note fiction as fiction. Thanks :)
143.107.45.146 ( talk) 14:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
The English article says the reading is Dōtanuki while the Japanese says it's Dōdanuki. Most of my searching in English comes up with the T version for some reason, but searching in Japanese comes up with the D version. Can we confirm the reading? Erynamrod ( talk) 15:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Can anyone find any reference to the meaning of "Dôtanuki" meaning 'cuts through torsos'. The final two kanji are used as a place name and a family name in Japan and I think it far more likely that it was a smithe's name or location. This strongly sounds like Japanese fan lore.
The article mentions Kozure Ookami's hero's sword as being of wakizashi's length. I'm not sure about the manga, I don't have one with me, but in the movies, Ogami Itto's sword seems certainly longer than a wakizashi. A wakizashi length sword would hardly be practical to give the todome of a seppuku. Alestane 03:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
The reference to http://www.paralumun.com/swdot.htm seems more than a little dubious. It's not a reference to an actual history site or a reference to a decent book, rather it's just a naked page with pretty dubious claims. I'd like to remove it. Pmw2cc ( talk) 21:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to remove the sentence, "The dōtanuki was made to slice through a target with just a single cut and was the only sword capable of slicing in half a samurai wearing full armour.", as it seems partly nonsensical (in that all swords are designed to slice/cut with a single cut) and there's no evidence that the dōtanuki has any special power to cut through armor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmw2cc ( talk • contribs) 16:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I think the main issue with this article is the confusion between historical and fictional meanings of the term “dōtanuki”. Dōtanuki are an important trope in jidaigeki, videogames etc., and I agree this use deserves to be documented, but we should be careful to distinguish from actual fact.
I took the liberty to add several pieces of info from ja.wikipedia. They’re unsourced, but in my humble opinion ja.wikipedia was still more reliable than the lame iai sword sellers people have been using as references here. I also removed a meaningless, unsourced claim (that “dōtanuki were made to cut in a single stroke”) and a reference that 404ed.
If you feel this edit was bad feel free to improve it, but let’s try to find good sources and to note fiction as fiction. Thanks :)
143.107.45.146 ( talk) 14:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
The English article says the reading is Dōtanuki while the Japanese says it's Dōdanuki. Most of my searching in English comes up with the T version for some reason, but searching in Japanese comes up with the D version. Can we confirm the reading? Erynamrod ( talk) 15:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)