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With respect to the excerpt, "For example, in original traditional cuisines, the precise selection of spices for each dish is a matter of national or regional cultural tradition, religious practice, and, to some extent, family preference." I request you to add the phrase ", as evolved over thousands of years" after "family preference" to reflect the historical context of the cuisines. PrateekChakraverty1 ( talk) 13:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Zombie gunner wishes to make two changes to the Etymology section which I disagree with:
1. Addition of the sentence "In North Indian languages curry is called Salan". I'm not disputing that this is factually correct, but 'etymology' refers to the origin and development of a particular word - not the thing itself. I do not believe that the word 'curry' has evolved from the word 'salan' and, unless there is a reference to indicate otherwise, it is not relevant to this section.
2. Removal of the sentence "The word 'cury' appears in the 1390s English cookbook, The Forme of Cury, but is unrelated and comes from the Middle French word ' cuire', meaning 'to cook' " . Strictly speaking, I guess this might be considered off-topic, but I think the sentence is valid here because it preempts any misunderstanding which might be derived from the book's title, and it certainly doesn't detract from the over-all article.
I've brought this to the Talk page to allow Zombie gunner the opportunity to justify the changes and gain the consensus required to make them. Obscurasky ( talk) 17:19, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a problem with the definition of kari. If you look in a Tamil dictionary, it says the definition is charcoal. https://agarathi.com/word/%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.253.137 ( talk) 19:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The reversion in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Curry&oldid=1005436298
One of the reasons there are so few good sources for anything relating to South Indian cuisine is because English-language writers haven't given it the same interest and in-depth study they've given European, Latin American, East Asian or even other regional South Asian cuisines. The same goes for native-language writers for a different set of reasons. The fact that there are acceptable sources for information on vindaloo, rogan josh, and goshtaba, preparations popular in restaurants the West, but nothing for the rest of Goan or Kashmiri cuisine perfectly demonstrates this. Plugging-in any of the terms I used – iguru, pulusu, pappu – into a Google Scholar search yields little to no good hits either. Even the one scholarly source I used that describes Telugu cuisine in-depth only focuses on a single caste community in a single district in Telangana, so it's very incomplete.
I could write a treatise on Telugu cuisine that revealed its sophistication, but because of my lack of credentials as either an academic or a culinary professional, it wouldn't fulfill Wikipedia:Weight or Wikipedia:Reliable sources. So the choice here isn't between good sources and bad sources, it's between folk/lay scholarship and nothing. It's clear that previous editors of this page have had to strike that balance and have mostly erred on the side of allowing unsourced information but flagging it as such, so that citations can be added in the future. Without such a compromise, South Indian curries, the very origin of the English word "curry," would remain clouded by a cultural and language barrier.
I ask you to reconsider the reversion of my edit and adopt the same stance as earlier editors. Xerces1492 ( talk) 00:57, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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Please change BCE in the history section back to BC since it is incorrect. IF you are going to use a calendar, then use it, don't put your personal agenda in it. Ever wonder why people are reluctant to donate money to you? This is one of the reasons. Leave BC as BC and not BCE and AD as AD and not CE. I cannot re-name the meter if I don't like it and still claim to be using the Metric system, because it isn't if I call the meter something else. Think about it. 198.57.14.68 ( talk) 02:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I think Curry (or Kari) are from the same root as Persian word "Khoaresh" (or "Khoresh") is. Both mean "side dish", something you eat with your main dish (bread or rice). Khoresh (older pronunciation Khoaresh") is composed of "khoar" means eating and "ash" which is a popular suffix to create nouns. It seems "sh" was dropped in Indian dialect over time, and Kh became K. Khoaresh ==> KAre — Preceding
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Any reason curried dishes in Jamaica aren't included in a regional subsection? Ryecatcher773 ( talk) 05:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
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With respect to the excerpt, "For example, in original traditional cuisines, the precise selection of spices for each dish is a matter of national or regional cultural tradition, religious practice, and, to some extent, family preference." I request you to add the phrase ", as evolved over thousands of years" after "family preference" to reflect the historical context of the cuisines. PrateekChakraverty1 ( talk) 13:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Zombie gunner wishes to make two changes to the Etymology section which I disagree with:
1. Addition of the sentence "In North Indian languages curry is called Salan". I'm not disputing that this is factually correct, but 'etymology' refers to the origin and development of a particular word - not the thing itself. I do not believe that the word 'curry' has evolved from the word 'salan' and, unless there is a reference to indicate otherwise, it is not relevant to this section.
2. Removal of the sentence "The word 'cury' appears in the 1390s English cookbook, The Forme of Cury, but is unrelated and comes from the Middle French word ' cuire', meaning 'to cook' " . Strictly speaking, I guess this might be considered off-topic, but I think the sentence is valid here because it preempts any misunderstanding which might be derived from the book's title, and it certainly doesn't detract from the over-all article.
I've brought this to the Talk page to allow Zombie gunner the opportunity to justify the changes and gain the consensus required to make them. Obscurasky ( talk) 17:19, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
There's a problem with the definition of kari. If you look in a Tamil dictionary, it says the definition is charcoal. https://agarathi.com/word/%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%B0%E0%AE%BF — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.253.137 ( talk) 19:27, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
The reversion in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Curry&oldid=1005436298
One of the reasons there are so few good sources for anything relating to South Indian cuisine is because English-language writers haven't given it the same interest and in-depth study they've given European, Latin American, East Asian or even other regional South Asian cuisines. The same goes for native-language writers for a different set of reasons. The fact that there are acceptable sources for information on vindaloo, rogan josh, and goshtaba, preparations popular in restaurants the West, but nothing for the rest of Goan or Kashmiri cuisine perfectly demonstrates this. Plugging-in any of the terms I used – iguru, pulusu, pappu – into a Google Scholar search yields little to no good hits either. Even the one scholarly source I used that describes Telugu cuisine in-depth only focuses on a single caste community in a single district in Telangana, so it's very incomplete.
I could write a treatise on Telugu cuisine that revealed its sophistication, but because of my lack of credentials as either an academic or a culinary professional, it wouldn't fulfill Wikipedia:Weight or Wikipedia:Reliable sources. So the choice here isn't between good sources and bad sources, it's between folk/lay scholarship and nothing. It's clear that previous editors of this page have had to strike that balance and have mostly erred on the side of allowing unsourced information but flagging it as such, so that citations can be added in the future. Without such a compromise, South Indian curries, the very origin of the English word "curry," would remain clouded by a cultural and language barrier.
I ask you to reconsider the reversion of my edit and adopt the same stance as earlier editors. Xerces1492 ( talk) 00:57, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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Please change BCE in the history section back to BC since it is incorrect. IF you are going to use a calendar, then use it, don't put your personal agenda in it. Ever wonder why people are reluctant to donate money to you? This is one of the reasons. Leave BC as BC and not BCE and AD as AD and not CE. I cannot re-name the meter if I don't like it and still claim to be using the Metric system, because it isn't if I call the meter something else. Think about it. 198.57.14.68 ( talk) 02:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
I think Curry (or Kari) are from the same root as Persian word "Khoaresh" (or "Khoresh") is. Both mean "side dish", something you eat with your main dish (bread or rice). Khoresh (older pronunciation Khoaresh") is composed of "khoar" means eating and "ash" which is a popular suffix to create nouns. It seems "sh" was dropped in Indian dialect over time, and Kh became K. Khoaresh ==> KAre — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
71.212.113.183 (
talk)
08:48, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Any reason curried dishes in Jamaica aren't included in a regional subsection? Ryecatcher773 ( talk) 05:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)