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Gore Vidal's characterization of William F. Buckley Jr. during their now-famous debate at the 1968 Democratic National Convention.
William F. Buckley's response to the term was, "Now, listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face, and you'll stay plastered."
To which Vidal replied, in a tone of mock-romance, "Oh, Bill!"\
Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~tdk3/vidalesquire69.html - Quoted in Esquire Magazine, September, 1969 - Primalchaos
Posted my research to soon. An actual sound file of him saying this is available online : http://www.pitt.edu/~kloman/debates.html - Primalchaos
Can we add something about this definition of cryptofa in the article - http://www.last.fm/group/Crypto-Fascists/forum/48530/_/262698 .:Stirb Nicht Vor Mir:. 07:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The musical movement 'cryptofascism' or 'cryptofa' is probably worthy of its own separate article, rather than being conflated with the serious political science term.-- Primal Chaos 02:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Why on earth are the Neoconservatives named in this article? Is this Wikipedia or Wingnuttipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.149.180 ( talk) 03:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term crypto-facist was used as early as 1937 (in the entry for "crypto-"). In general, "crypto-" can be used as a prefix to just about anything, and means "hidden" or "disguised". The entire slant of this article seems to be based on one example of the term's usage. If "Crypto-facism" (with a Capital C) is some particular political movement or party, it's description should be separated from the definition of the English word crypto-facism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.97.15.226 ( talk) 18:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
The article used to be over 3x as big with a lot more information in it, and since then has been gradually reduced in size to a stub. Why. Roidroid ( talk) 04:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
as described at the crypto-anarchism article, cryotoanarchism may not be a good 'related'/ see also item. anyone wanna jump in on that? skak E L 16:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
I came to the exact same conclusion as I was reading this article. Cryto-anarchism does not pertain to the secretive adherence to a belief-system, as opposed to (afaik) the other terms in the list. - dreamer 20:41, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Gmarmstrong ( talk) 07:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
@ NotKimJongUn:, I removed the link to the Alt Right that you had added. Based on the current Wiki definition for Alt-Right, they come off sounding more like a Nationalist group with racial undertones. I don't see the link between that and this article on fascism.
If there's a link in that Crypto-fascists are prone to be racist, or whatever the Alt-Right is being held accountable for, please provide reference.
Honestly, the term Alt-Right is still very murky and undefined at the moment, it might be best to avoid that article until a definite set of characteristics can be defined. Sawta ( talk) 12:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
In the main text, it is written that Adorno's book Der getreue Korrepetitor (The Faithful Répétiteur) was from "five years earlier" than the debate between Vidal and Buckley which was in 1968. In the footnotes, however, the citation gives the date of 1976 for the book. 50.110.4.82 ( talk) 21:05, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Gore Vidal's characterization of William F. Buckley Jr. during their now-famous debate at the 1968 Democratic National Convention.
William F. Buckley's response to the term was, "Now, listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face, and you'll stay plastered."
To which Vidal replied, in a tone of mock-romance, "Oh, Bill!"\
Source: http://www.columbia.edu/~tdk3/vidalesquire69.html - Quoted in Esquire Magazine, September, 1969 - Primalchaos
Posted my research to soon. An actual sound file of him saying this is available online : http://www.pitt.edu/~kloman/debates.html - Primalchaos
Can we add something about this definition of cryptofa in the article - http://www.last.fm/group/Crypto-Fascists/forum/48530/_/262698 .:Stirb Nicht Vor Mir:. 07:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The musical movement 'cryptofascism' or 'cryptofa' is probably worthy of its own separate article, rather than being conflated with the serious political science term.-- Primal Chaos 02:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Why on earth are the Neoconservatives named in this article? Is this Wikipedia or Wingnuttipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.149.180 ( talk) 03:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term crypto-facist was used as early as 1937 (in the entry for "crypto-"). In general, "crypto-" can be used as a prefix to just about anything, and means "hidden" or "disguised". The entire slant of this article seems to be based on one example of the term's usage. If "Crypto-facism" (with a Capital C) is some particular political movement or party, it's description should be separated from the definition of the English word crypto-facism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.97.15.226 ( talk) 18:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
The article used to be over 3x as big with a lot more information in it, and since then has been gradually reduced in size to a stub. Why. Roidroid ( talk) 04:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
as described at the crypto-anarchism article, cryotoanarchism may not be a good 'related'/ see also item. anyone wanna jump in on that? skak E L 16:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
I came to the exact same conclusion as I was reading this article. Cryto-anarchism does not pertain to the secretive adherence to a belief-system, as opposed to (afaik) the other terms in the list. - dreamer 20:41, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Gmarmstrong ( talk) 07:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
@ NotKimJongUn:, I removed the link to the Alt Right that you had added. Based on the current Wiki definition for Alt-Right, they come off sounding more like a Nationalist group with racial undertones. I don't see the link between that and this article on fascism.
If there's a link in that Crypto-fascists are prone to be racist, or whatever the Alt-Right is being held accountable for, please provide reference.
Honestly, the term Alt-Right is still very murky and undefined at the moment, it might be best to avoid that article until a definite set of characteristics can be defined. Sawta ( talk) 12:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
In the main text, it is written that Adorno's book Der getreue Korrepetitor (The Faithful Répétiteur) was from "five years earlier" than the debate between Vidal and Buckley which was in 1968. In the footnotes, however, the citation gives the date of 1976 for the book. 50.110.4.82 ( talk) 21:05, 9 August 2022 (UTC)