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From the article: "The agreement was never carried out due to the failure of the Dardanelles campaign and the threat Britain saw in Russia after the former finally reached the city in 1918." ---> Of course, after Russia pulled out of WW1 (and the Bolsheviks took over), it was no longer relevant/topical/necessary to give the area to Russia. -- Oddeivind ( talk) 17:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
With the Crimean War and ever after, it was one of Britan's chief geostrategic objectives that Russia should have no control over the Dardanelles. Promising Russia exactly that was a major upheaval of British policies, and it is certainly no question why they accepted a welcome excuse not to keep the agreement, but whether they ever really intended to. 2003:F2:B704:D825:60B8:66B1:E224:1399 ( talk) 16:43, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
It would be interesting to know when these secret agreements were made. Before WW1 or during WW1? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.100.8 ( talk) 10:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
After the Russian Revolution and the start of the Civil War, France and the UK had other intentions about who would end up with Constantinople and the Dardanelles. See the articles on the
Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922) and
Turkish War of Independence.
A minor point: in the first sentence, the word "assurances" implies to me something which the Triple Entente states promised to an outside party rather than an agreement among themselves. Perhaps the substitution of wording using "agreements" or "treaty" would be better?
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From the article: "The agreement was never carried out due to the failure of the Dardanelles campaign and the threat Britain saw in Russia after the former finally reached the city in 1918." ---> Of course, after Russia pulled out of WW1 (and the Bolsheviks took over), it was no longer relevant/topical/necessary to give the area to Russia. -- Oddeivind ( talk) 17:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
With the Crimean War and ever after, it was one of Britan's chief geostrategic objectives that Russia should have no control over the Dardanelles. Promising Russia exactly that was a major upheaval of British policies, and it is certainly no question why they accepted a welcome excuse not to keep the agreement, but whether they ever really intended to. 2003:F2:B704:D825:60B8:66B1:E224:1399 ( talk) 16:43, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
It would be interesting to know when these secret agreements were made. Before WW1 or during WW1? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.100.8 ( talk) 10:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
After the Russian Revolution and the start of the Civil War, France and the UK had other intentions about who would end up with Constantinople and the Dardanelles. See the articles on the
Greco-Turkish War (1919–1922) and
Turkish War of Independence.
A minor point: in the first sentence, the word "assurances" implies to me something which the Triple Entente states promised to an outside party rather than an agreement among themselves. Perhaps the substitution of wording using "agreements" or "treaty" would be better?
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ZScarpia
10:28, 3 October 2019 (UTC)