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The paragraph "A damaging court trial charging her secretary Daisy DeVoe with financial mismanagement, by Paramount-friendly Los Angeles District Attorney Burn Fitts, Paramount-friendly Los Angeles assistant District Attorney David Clark, and Paramount-friendly Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William C. Doran." isn't even a full sentence much less a paragraph. Very confusing as the paragraphs before and after have nothing to do with this paragraph. What happened? Why is this relevant? I honestly don't know. Needs more detail. SEKluth ( talk) 21:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
That's not his name. 2A02:AA1:1005:E776:8005:90D:46BB:8712 ( talk) 23:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Beyond My Ken, Infrogmation, MarnetteD, Parrotistic, and Stovelsten:!
To start off a bit techy, here is some info from
ores
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I think that means that it would not be a big stretch to better the assessment for this article.
My specialty is working on citations. I have access to a couple of newspaper archives via the Wikipedia Library, so I think I can get fuller citations for many of the newspaper articles. I also think I can improve many of the other citations.
A question that I have is whether we should move the full book & scholarly article citations into the Sources section & link to them via {{
sfn}} templates. Right now we have a mixed style, &
WP:CITEVAR supports imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles
& to seek consensus for a change on the talk page
. I would like to go ahead with this, unless there are any objections.
Peaceray (
talk)
18:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
I have encountered several citations that appear to be made up. I suspect some of them may have come from advertisements, & whoever placed them as citations did so without checking whether the original sources really existed. I am going to start noting & removing them when I cannot find them in the source that is given. Peaceray ( talk) 17:15, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
The source is given a
I have access to this issue at The Los Angeles Times at
[1]. I can find mentions of Wine & Clara Bow in this issue, & an article by Grace Kingsley, but the latter does not write about either the movie or the subject. The quote from the article is Kingsley, Grace. Los Angeles Times, August 24, 1924
Don't miss Wine. It's a thoroughly refreshing draught ... there are only about five actresses who give me a real thrill on the screen—and Clara is nearly five of them".
It does not appear in the issue. I have search on sub-strings at newspaper.com & on Google, & all that I have found is web pages that apparently were reusing the Wikipedia information without attribution (see
WP:CIRCULAR) as they appear after the insertion of the quote by 81.231.109.201
this edit. I will remove the material as unverified by the source.
Peaceray (
talk)
17:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't the music video for Taylor Swift's song "Fortnight" (2024) also reference Clara Bow's institutionalization? 98.123.38.211 ( talk) 23:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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The paragraph "A damaging court trial charging her secretary Daisy DeVoe with financial mismanagement, by Paramount-friendly Los Angeles District Attorney Burn Fitts, Paramount-friendly Los Angeles assistant District Attorney David Clark, and Paramount-friendly Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William C. Doran." isn't even a full sentence much less a paragraph. Very confusing as the paragraphs before and after have nothing to do with this paragraph. What happened? Why is this relevant? I honestly don't know. Needs more detail. SEKluth ( talk) 21:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
That's not his name. 2A02:AA1:1005:E776:8005:90D:46BB:8712 ( talk) 23:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Beyond My Ken, Infrogmation, MarnetteD, Parrotistic, and Stovelsten:!
To start off a bit techy, here is some info from
ores
"scores": {
"1141847701": {
"articlequality": {
"score": {
"prediction": "FA",
"probability": {
"B": 0.35282919997239187,
"C": 0.06932158905690816,
"FA": 0.36955688664332503,
"GA": 0.1932169592705927,
"Start": 0.011049838744631758,
"Stub": 0.00402552631215046
}
}
}
}
}
I think that means that it would not be a big stretch to better the assessment for this article.
My specialty is working on citations. I have access to a couple of newspaper archives via the Wikipedia Library, so I think I can get fuller citations for many of the newspaper articles. I also think I can improve many of the other citations.
A question that I have is whether we should move the full book & scholarly article citations into the Sources section & link to them via {{
sfn}} templates. Right now we have a mixed style, &
WP:CITEVAR supports imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles
& to seek consensus for a change on the talk page
. I would like to go ahead with this, unless there are any objections.
Peaceray (
talk)
18:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
I have encountered several citations that appear to be made up. I suspect some of them may have come from advertisements, & whoever placed them as citations did so without checking whether the original sources really existed. I am going to start noting & removing them when I cannot find them in the source that is given. Peaceray ( talk) 17:15, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
The source is given a
I have access to this issue at The Los Angeles Times at
[1]. I can find mentions of Wine & Clara Bow in this issue, & an article by Grace Kingsley, but the latter does not write about either the movie or the subject. The quote from the article is Kingsley, Grace. Los Angeles Times, August 24, 1924
Don't miss Wine. It's a thoroughly refreshing draught ... there are only about five actresses who give me a real thrill on the screen—and Clara is nearly five of them".
It does not appear in the issue. I have search on sub-strings at newspaper.com & on Google, & all that I have found is web pages that apparently were reusing the Wikipedia information without attribution (see
WP:CIRCULAR) as they appear after the insertion of the quote by 81.231.109.201
this edit. I will remove the material as unverified by the source.
Peaceray (
talk)
17:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Doesn't the music video for Taylor Swift's song "Fortnight" (2024) also reference Clara Bow's institutionalization? 98.123.38.211 ( talk) 23:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)