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-Anyone knows the song of the circus, the one more well known?
Stars and Stripes Forever, aka the Disaster March. It's only played in the circcus when something has gone wrong
i thought it was called entrance of the gladiators
See the article on Julius Fucik for the refrerence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.107.242 ( talk) 19:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
--> make sure you add the Kantimirov Family who put together the Cirque-Horse stunt show (www.CirqueNiagara.com) 1st russian cirque show in canada (stationary)
This article and the realted constellation needs some good work and patience. It will eventually, I am sure, become a featured article, and the more help, the better. If you are reading this, maybe you are one of the people who would like to help take this on as sort of an unofficial project? I am adding my name here to what I hope will be a long list of enthusiastic circus lovers worldwide, who are going to focus a few minutes each week at least to bringing this article up to featured article quality:
I just put back a links that someone removed, and I added several additional links to the external links section. All of the links I added have relivant content. In the case of the link I put back (simplycircus.com) it has a huge amount of content on it, including whole books on various aspects of the circus. That site is linked to from many of the pages in this constilation. If you feel the need to delete one of these links, please post here with your reasoning for doing so.
Bob, if you had actually bothered to read the site (seems to be a recurring issue when linking to this site...) you would have seen that (1) its the official site of Simply Circus, a fairly well-known circus school (at least among the youth circus world); (2) it is a very well documented site (the conferences section documents every major circus industry conference of at least the past 5 years; The theses page is arguably the most extensive collection of abstracts, citations and links to circus related theses ever assembled - it dates back to the 1940's; the skills stuff on the site is truly amazing.
So bob, would you care to explain how exactly is a link to a single thesis better than a link to a well ordered collection of theses put out by a major circus school? "per—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.241.74 ( talk) 03:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
SimplyCircus ( talk) 16:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
This conversation is, as far as I am concerned not productive. So I will leave you today with a series of specific questions. Your answers will be interesting.
Question #1: Link 1: http://community.simplycircus.com/research/thesis_papers.htm
Description: Citations, abstracts and when available links to full text of virtually every English language circus related thesis published since the 1940's.
Link 2: http://www.geocities.com/glen_ryman/circus.html
Description: Thesis paper looking at two decades and two different categories of circus in Australia.
Which of these two pages is more relevant to this article? Why?
Question #2:
http://community.simplycircus.com/conferences/ is a directory of conference proceeding. Most of the proceedings are hosted on this site, however a few are not. Does that make this site a "link farm"? Why?
2007 is the page with handouts from some of the 2007 circus conferences. All but one of these handouts are hosted on this site. Is this page a link farm?
Question #3: The
Aerial Arts FAQ is linked to from many wikipedia articles on aerial arts. Please review this link and describe for us why it is not an appropriate resource to link to. Please suggest any other site on the internet with the same information as an alternative to link to.
SimplyCircus (talk) 18:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
SimplyCircus ( talk) 20:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I've marked this article as "requiring cleanup", I suppose with a similar attitude to the above. The Cleanup procedure requests that I write a note here on why, so:
Anyone with the energy is welcome to start breaking the lists into paragraphs, and the juggling section should be broken out to separate articles... any section that grows too large should be broken out to separate articles in fact. try not to lose any text when shortening the sections, you could dump them on the discuss page for the appropriate articles.
I'm focusing on the juggling part for the next few days. Pedant 2005 July 6 20:39 (UTC)
Maybe animal cruelty or something for the animal rant? I didn't see it, and I don't have time to look for it right now. There maybe should be a paragraph that mentions animal mistreatment, as the circus is one of the areas where animals are sometimes horribly treated, though, I have to say that not all circuses mistreat animals, if you can excuse keeping an animal in a cage. In some circuses, the animals are treated like rock stars. Pedant 2005 July 6 20:39 (UTC)
Guys and gals, I just want to make the point that omitting to mention the mistreatment of animales in circuses is a "point of view" - talking about the positives only and not mentioning the negatives. Watch some of the Ringling Bros elephant training videos for some education.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anon15 ( talk • contribs) 20:22, March 12, 2007 (UTC)
Originated in vaudeville, and this could use a more complete description, maybe a mention of the 'Trouble Wit' (or whatever the spelling is) prop? Anyone know of any famous hat manglers? (hat mangler is the clown expression for a chapeaugrapheur) Pedant
There is a lot of Gypsies in Circus show biz right? - NO there are not.
A few European Gypsy families became involved in the circus, but they are a tiny minority among the circus community. However, in some cases the great fame of particular families may give a different impression; for example the Bouglione family in France, who proudly boast their Romani ancestry. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I see where someone is submitting legitimate links on the abuse of animals at circuses but another is deleting them. Hopefully this will not be another case of censorship on Wikipedia. 66.14.116.114 19:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I edited some of the section on animal abuse to try to bring it a little more in line with a neutral point of view. The section is probably still biased against animal acts, but I think it is a little better now. Ms408 08:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
You are violating NPOV; there is no evidence to suggest all circuses with animals abuse them- naming the section as you propose implies that. The section is also still a mess.-- Peta 22:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
It does, it immediately associates the use of animals in the circus with abuse; which is not the case. Abuse is one aspect of animal acts in the circus.-- Peta 23:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
There is no debate that the section needs cleanup. There is an issue with the naming of the section, as I have gone over already. -- Peta 23:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
No response. Okay, let the record show that I tried reasoning, I provided Wikipedia policy references and in fact I've provided sources for everything I've stated. PDH has supplied nothing but his/her own POV. Sad. 63.196.193.173 01:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Er, no, the title is most definitely biased, as the title links circuses to animal abuse. It is considered best practice to not have such titles. "Treatment of animals" etc, is more NPOV as it does not put thoughts in the reader's mind in the title. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I see that I've been selectively denied editing of the article. Silly. All can rest assured that I wont. While I don't think the disputed title is in any way biased, "Treatment of animals" works for me. Please so edit. 63.196.193.173 03:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not using an anonymous user ID and I still can't edit this aticle. And I doing something wrong here? Ms408 06:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I was disambiguating Gypsy, and was not able to disambiguate the entry in Circus in the ancient world because of the edit protection. Could an administrator disambiguate this link?-- HarryHenryGebel 16:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
In the UK, the word Gypsy has traditionally indicated Romanies. However, its legal meaning now defines any person who lives exclusively in their mobile home / caravan wherever it happens to be, and who thus has no fixed address. This law specifically excludes travelling showmen (= Carnival operators) or members of a circus. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I edited the animal acts section. I know I took out some sections that were already there. As it was there was one paragraph about animal acts and 4 paragraphs about animal abuse. I trimmed down the stuff on abuse and added some more general information on animal acts. It isn't enough and the section still needs to be cleaned up. Ms408 02:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we should lock this page--Hailey 19:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I just put in a request for semi-protection. Since most of the trouble is coming from anonymous or newly subscribed users, hopefully, that'll put an end to it. Ms408 01:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Semi protect status was denied by Voice of All. I'll keep an eye on the article and try to just revert the outright nonsense. As far as the animal rights issues that keep coming up, would anyone object to my creating a seperate article for animal welfare in the circus? We could keep a small section in the Circus article proper, and then have a link to the subarticle. Let me know what you think. Ms408 03:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I just added the circus section to cruelty to animals. I tried to clean the section up before adding it, but it is still a fairly mangled section, and you can tell it is the result of an edit war. Ms408 01:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I just moved the animal abuse paragraphcs from Animal acts into a new heading i made which is "controversy" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.212.140 ( talk) 12:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I see this debate was a year ago, but that the article on the place of animals in the circus (whatever its title) has still been allowed to remain a diatribe against their use rather than a historical / contextual overview of their part in the history of the circus. Questions re their inclusion are relevant; but the overuse of specific and lengthy examples presents an unbalanced POV rather than an informative note. The answer is not to add opposing examples, as suggested above, but to reduce the present bias. I add that, when I added 'balancing' material some time ago, it was repeatedly deleted even though I was careful to limit myself to factual additions. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
In France the host is always called Monsieur Royal. Is there a similar thing in English?
Yes, generally the host is called the Ringmaster though some circus shows have no specific ringmaster or in some cases the ringmaster has a distinct identity as part of the show. bondolo ( talk) 00:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
In fact, the 'host' of French circuses is called Monsieur Loyal, not Royal. Several men from the Loyal family of circus performers became Ringmasters, so their family name became the generic in France. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone object to an external link to www.circuses.com in this article? Or it might fit under animal acts somewhere. The website, even though it is by PETA, gives factsheets and schedules of many circuses, videos of animal treatment. PETA claims it can document the information, and even though circuses.com definitely has a POV it's really no more so than circusnews.com, or Barnum Museum. Bob98133 13:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know the translation of the following Russian article: ru:Униформист ( Google translation? What is the name of this profession in English? Is it "uniformist" or something else? Esn 00:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I've started a new WikiProject all about this topic, Wikipedia:WikiProject Circus Maybe we can clean up the articles and try to stop attacks from the Animal rights folks.
moooooo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.87.101 ( talk) 22:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
all i needed to find was the origin of the three ring circus (for a paragraph in my homeschool co-op class) but i can't find it anywhere! for crying out loud, people! i really don't need to know about a circus in some city halfway across the country, i need info on the actual process. no offense of copurse- this is still a cool site to go to for info, and ill keep using it! p.s. did anybody see the picture of the day? it was a tesseract- a 4-d cube. WAY cool. 69.4.100.160 19:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Shippo 69.4.100.160 19:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
oh, and a quick p.s.- i agree- all the animal rights stuff has got to stop. i also think it's pretty unfair, but whining about it online won't help anything. get off your computer and do something about it if you think its so cruel. (which i guess it is, but im not gonna get into that here-_-') 69.4.100.160 19:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Shippo 69.4.100.160 19:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The Britney Spears album Circus has been added and removed repeatedly as a disambiguation special case. If you are in favour of the album receiving special mention in the disambiguation message please describe here why the normal disambiguation doesn't suffice. Don't just re-add it! bondolo ( talk) 00:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there some reason why there's no lead photo here? Either the Lion Tamer or Trapeze Artist lithos would be pretty good...
[Looks in Commons] Hah -- some good stuff. I'll lead with one of the Faroe Circus stamps, but am open to others. The Seurat File:Georges Seurat 019.jpg is also nice. Cheers, Pete Tillman ( talk) 19:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
A new book has been published concerning the Circus of Pepin and Breschard, possibly the first American circus, 1807-1815. For more information, www.CircusRider.org 76.251.212.202 ( talk) 20:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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it needs either an article or a section. circus tents have changed some over the years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 ( talk) 23:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps a bit of mention is due for the Greek circuses which preceded Roman (not just etymologically). ~E: 74.60.29.141 ( talk) 22:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC) P.s.: please archive obsolete posts - it takes forever to scroll to the bottom. ;)
And where are your sources? As I know, archaeologically speaking, a Greek circus is never existed, while you can find over 200 Roman arenas in Asia, Africa and Europe!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.49.29.200 ( talk) 22:53, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
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Added more information about the creator and origin of the circus in the history section. Krystal C871 ( talk) 13:56, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm new to looking at the page, but I concur that (despite agreeing whole-heartedly with their message), the animal cruelty/law change content has become wildly UNDUE compared to the topic of all circuses, across history, including all aspects.
Since it's been determined in the past that UNDUE is based off the current state of an article, not some "potential max coverage" state, it can't just remain in the hope that in a few years someone will even it out.
It's obviously a legitimate topic, and I particularly dislike to see valid information removed. Thus:
What are thoughts on splitting it off to be a new article, with a fairly large summary section (probably 20-25%, rather than the normal 10-15%), where these concerns can be put to bed? Nosebagbear ( talk) 10:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
I propose that sections Circus#Controversy and laws and associated sections be split into a separate article called Circuses and animal cruelty. The content of the current page exceeds the size for splitting and these sections are large enough and notable enough to make their own page. Comments please. If there are no comments within a month I will boldly split the article Robynthehode ( talk) 12:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I've moved the section-split template to the right section. Edderiofer ( talk) 01:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
On 13 February 2023, I copied some text (with the accompanying footnotes) from Circus#United_States into Tyke_(elephant)#Background. Mksword ( talk) 17:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
I think we should create this based on the history section here, which then could be shortened. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:03, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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-Anyone knows the song of the circus, the one more well known?
Stars and Stripes Forever, aka the Disaster March. It's only played in the circcus when something has gone wrong
i thought it was called entrance of the gladiators
See the article on Julius Fucik for the refrerence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.107.242 ( talk) 19:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
--> make sure you add the Kantimirov Family who put together the Cirque-Horse stunt show (www.CirqueNiagara.com) 1st russian cirque show in canada (stationary)
This article and the realted constellation needs some good work and patience. It will eventually, I am sure, become a featured article, and the more help, the better. If you are reading this, maybe you are one of the people who would like to help take this on as sort of an unofficial project? I am adding my name here to what I hope will be a long list of enthusiastic circus lovers worldwide, who are going to focus a few minutes each week at least to bringing this article up to featured article quality:
I just put back a links that someone removed, and I added several additional links to the external links section. All of the links I added have relivant content. In the case of the link I put back (simplycircus.com) it has a huge amount of content on it, including whole books on various aspects of the circus. That site is linked to from many of the pages in this constilation. If you feel the need to delete one of these links, please post here with your reasoning for doing so.
Bob, if you had actually bothered to read the site (seems to be a recurring issue when linking to this site...) you would have seen that (1) its the official site of Simply Circus, a fairly well-known circus school (at least among the youth circus world); (2) it is a very well documented site (the conferences section documents every major circus industry conference of at least the past 5 years; The theses page is arguably the most extensive collection of abstracts, citations and links to circus related theses ever assembled - it dates back to the 1940's; the skills stuff on the site is truly amazing.
So bob, would you care to explain how exactly is a link to a single thesis better than a link to a well ordered collection of theses put out by a major circus school? "per—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.241.74 ( talk) 03:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
SimplyCircus ( talk) 16:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
This conversation is, as far as I am concerned not productive. So I will leave you today with a series of specific questions. Your answers will be interesting.
Question #1: Link 1: http://community.simplycircus.com/research/thesis_papers.htm
Description: Citations, abstracts and when available links to full text of virtually every English language circus related thesis published since the 1940's.
Link 2: http://www.geocities.com/glen_ryman/circus.html
Description: Thesis paper looking at two decades and two different categories of circus in Australia.
Which of these two pages is more relevant to this article? Why?
Question #2:
http://community.simplycircus.com/conferences/ is a directory of conference proceeding. Most of the proceedings are hosted on this site, however a few are not. Does that make this site a "link farm"? Why?
2007 is the page with handouts from some of the 2007 circus conferences. All but one of these handouts are hosted on this site. Is this page a link farm?
Question #3: The
Aerial Arts FAQ is linked to from many wikipedia articles on aerial arts. Please review this link and describe for us why it is not an appropriate resource to link to. Please suggest any other site on the internet with the same information as an alternative to link to.
SimplyCircus (talk) 18:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
SimplyCircus ( talk) 20:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I've marked this article as "requiring cleanup", I suppose with a similar attitude to the above. The Cleanup procedure requests that I write a note here on why, so:
Anyone with the energy is welcome to start breaking the lists into paragraphs, and the juggling section should be broken out to separate articles... any section that grows too large should be broken out to separate articles in fact. try not to lose any text when shortening the sections, you could dump them on the discuss page for the appropriate articles.
I'm focusing on the juggling part for the next few days. Pedant 2005 July 6 20:39 (UTC)
Maybe animal cruelty or something for the animal rant? I didn't see it, and I don't have time to look for it right now. There maybe should be a paragraph that mentions animal mistreatment, as the circus is one of the areas where animals are sometimes horribly treated, though, I have to say that not all circuses mistreat animals, if you can excuse keeping an animal in a cage. In some circuses, the animals are treated like rock stars. Pedant 2005 July 6 20:39 (UTC)
Guys and gals, I just want to make the point that omitting to mention the mistreatment of animales in circuses is a "point of view" - talking about the positives only and not mentioning the negatives. Watch some of the Ringling Bros elephant training videos for some education.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anon15 ( talk • contribs) 20:22, March 12, 2007 (UTC)
Originated in vaudeville, and this could use a more complete description, maybe a mention of the 'Trouble Wit' (or whatever the spelling is) prop? Anyone know of any famous hat manglers? (hat mangler is the clown expression for a chapeaugrapheur) Pedant
There is a lot of Gypsies in Circus show biz right? - NO there are not.
A few European Gypsy families became involved in the circus, but they are a tiny minority among the circus community. However, in some cases the great fame of particular families may give a different impression; for example the Bouglione family in France, who proudly boast their Romani ancestry. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I see where someone is submitting legitimate links on the abuse of animals at circuses but another is deleting them. Hopefully this will not be another case of censorship on Wikipedia. 66.14.116.114 19:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I edited some of the section on animal abuse to try to bring it a little more in line with a neutral point of view. The section is probably still biased against animal acts, but I think it is a little better now. Ms408 08:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
You are violating NPOV; there is no evidence to suggest all circuses with animals abuse them- naming the section as you propose implies that. The section is also still a mess.-- Peta 22:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
It does, it immediately associates the use of animals in the circus with abuse; which is not the case. Abuse is one aspect of animal acts in the circus.-- Peta 23:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
There is no debate that the section needs cleanup. There is an issue with the naming of the section, as I have gone over already. -- Peta 23:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
No response. Okay, let the record show that I tried reasoning, I provided Wikipedia policy references and in fact I've provided sources for everything I've stated. PDH has supplied nothing but his/her own POV. Sad. 63.196.193.173 01:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Er, no, the title is most definitely biased, as the title links circuses to animal abuse. It is considered best practice to not have such titles. "Treatment of animals" etc, is more NPOV as it does not put thoughts in the reader's mind in the title. Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I see that I've been selectively denied editing of the article. Silly. All can rest assured that I wont. While I don't think the disputed title is in any way biased, "Treatment of animals" works for me. Please so edit. 63.196.193.173 03:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm not using an anonymous user ID and I still can't edit this aticle. And I doing something wrong here? Ms408 06:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I was disambiguating Gypsy, and was not able to disambiguate the entry in Circus in the ancient world because of the edit protection. Could an administrator disambiguate this link?-- HarryHenryGebel 16:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
In the UK, the word Gypsy has traditionally indicated Romanies. However, its legal meaning now defines any person who lives exclusively in their mobile home / caravan wherever it happens to be, and who thus has no fixed address. This law specifically excludes travelling showmen (= Carnival operators) or members of a circus. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
I edited the animal acts section. I know I took out some sections that were already there. As it was there was one paragraph about animal acts and 4 paragraphs about animal abuse. I trimmed down the stuff on abuse and added some more general information on animal acts. It isn't enough and the section still needs to be cleaned up. Ms408 02:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we should lock this page--Hailey 19:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I just put in a request for semi-protection. Since most of the trouble is coming from anonymous or newly subscribed users, hopefully, that'll put an end to it. Ms408 01:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Semi protect status was denied by Voice of All. I'll keep an eye on the article and try to just revert the outright nonsense. As far as the animal rights issues that keep coming up, would anyone object to my creating a seperate article for animal welfare in the circus? We could keep a small section in the Circus article proper, and then have a link to the subarticle. Let me know what you think. Ms408 03:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I just added the circus section to cruelty to animals. I tried to clean the section up before adding it, but it is still a fairly mangled section, and you can tell it is the result of an edit war. Ms408 01:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
I just moved the animal abuse paragraphcs from Animal acts into a new heading i made which is "controversy" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.212.140 ( talk) 12:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I see this debate was a year ago, but that the article on the place of animals in the circus (whatever its title) has still been allowed to remain a diatribe against their use rather than a historical / contextual overview of their part in the history of the circus. Questions re their inclusion are relevant; but the overuse of specific and lengthy examples presents an unbalanced POV rather than an informative note. The answer is not to add opposing examples, as suggested above, but to reduce the present bias. I add that, when I added 'balancing' material some time ago, it was repeatedly deleted even though I was careful to limit myself to factual additions. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
In France the host is always called Monsieur Royal. Is there a similar thing in English?
Yes, generally the host is called the Ringmaster though some circus shows have no specific ringmaster or in some cases the ringmaster has a distinct identity as part of the show. bondolo ( talk) 00:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
In fact, the 'host' of French circuses is called Monsieur Loyal, not Royal. Several men from the Loyal family of circus performers became Ringmasters, so their family name became the generic in France. 87.242.138.74 ( talk) 16:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone object to an external link to www.circuses.com in this article? Or it might fit under animal acts somewhere. The website, even though it is by PETA, gives factsheets and schedules of many circuses, videos of animal treatment. PETA claims it can document the information, and even though circuses.com definitely has a POV it's really no more so than circusnews.com, or Barnum Museum. Bob98133 13:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know the translation of the following Russian article: ru:Униформист ( Google translation? What is the name of this profession in English? Is it "uniformist" or something else? Esn 00:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I've started a new WikiProject all about this topic, Wikipedia:WikiProject Circus Maybe we can clean up the articles and try to stop attacks from the Animal rights folks.
moooooo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.87.101 ( talk) 22:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
all i needed to find was the origin of the three ring circus (for a paragraph in my homeschool co-op class) but i can't find it anywhere! for crying out loud, people! i really don't need to know about a circus in some city halfway across the country, i need info on the actual process. no offense of copurse- this is still a cool site to go to for info, and ill keep using it! p.s. did anybody see the picture of the day? it was a tesseract- a 4-d cube. WAY cool. 69.4.100.160 19:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Shippo 69.4.100.160 19:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
oh, and a quick p.s.- i agree- all the animal rights stuff has got to stop. i also think it's pretty unfair, but whining about it online won't help anything. get off your computer and do something about it if you think its so cruel. (which i guess it is, but im not gonna get into that here-_-') 69.4.100.160 19:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Shippo 69.4.100.160 19:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The Britney Spears album Circus has been added and removed repeatedly as a disambiguation special case. If you are in favour of the album receiving special mention in the disambiguation message please describe here why the normal disambiguation doesn't suffice. Don't just re-add it! bondolo ( talk) 00:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there some reason why there's no lead photo here? Either the Lion Tamer or Trapeze Artist lithos would be pretty good...
[Looks in Commons] Hah -- some good stuff. I'll lead with one of the Faroe Circus stamps, but am open to others. The Seurat File:Georges Seurat 019.jpg is also nice. Cheers, Pete Tillman ( talk) 19:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
A new book has been published concerning the Circus of Pepin and Breschard, possibly the first American circus, 1807-1815. For more information, www.CircusRider.org 76.251.212.202 ( talk) 20:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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it needs either an article or a section. circus tents have changed some over the years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 ( talk) 23:40, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps a bit of mention is due for the Greek circuses which preceded Roman (not just etymologically). ~E: 74.60.29.141 ( talk) 22:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC) P.s.: please archive obsolete posts - it takes forever to scroll to the bottom. ;)
And where are your sources? As I know, archaeologically speaking, a Greek circus is never existed, while you can find over 200 Roman arenas in Asia, Africa and Europe!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.49.29.200 ( talk) 22:53, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
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Added more information about the creator and origin of the circus in the history section. Krystal C871 ( talk) 13:56, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm new to looking at the page, but I concur that (despite agreeing whole-heartedly with their message), the animal cruelty/law change content has become wildly UNDUE compared to the topic of all circuses, across history, including all aspects.
Since it's been determined in the past that UNDUE is based off the current state of an article, not some "potential max coverage" state, it can't just remain in the hope that in a few years someone will even it out.
It's obviously a legitimate topic, and I particularly dislike to see valid information removed. Thus:
What are thoughts on splitting it off to be a new article, with a fairly large summary section (probably 20-25%, rather than the normal 10-15%), where these concerns can be put to bed? Nosebagbear ( talk) 10:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
I propose that sections Circus#Controversy and laws and associated sections be split into a separate article called Circuses and animal cruelty. The content of the current page exceeds the size for splitting and these sections are large enough and notable enough to make their own page. Comments please. If there are no comments within a month I will boldly split the article Robynthehode ( talk) 12:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
I've moved the section-split template to the right section. Edderiofer ( talk) 01:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
On 13 February 2023, I copied some text (with the accompanying footnotes) from Circus#United_States into Tyke_(elephant)#Background. Mksword ( talk) 17:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
I think we should create this based on the history section here, which then could be shortened. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:03, 29 November 2023 (UTC)