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I just read that Christopher Reeve has passed away. The article was at the Drudge Report website. R.I.P. Superman. -- Demonslave 05:11, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
There's no independent confirmation, and Drudge isn't 100% reliable. Wait for some other sources to pick up on it. It's better to be late than wrong, especially about dead celebrities. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:24, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Well, that didn't take long. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:31, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Actually, you didn't get to it first, Jewbacca did. Sorry. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:39, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Goodbye hero! -- Uswzb 12:52, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I think this picture says it all. From [1]. 63.130.195.158 00:54, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This is a talk page so I want to post my humble opinion: I used to believe Superman was a work of fiction. Christopher Reeves showed me he was the real Superman because of his brave battle after the accident. I was hoping he'd walk, but he broke my heart with his death.
I just want to say good bye Superman!!!
Sincerely yours, " Antonio Tearful Martin"
If you think some of the Reeve stuff on the net is in bad taste, you should see the 4th Feb 2006 entry at link title
I never liked the movies much, nor paid attention to the man - until he demonstrated the remarkable capacity to recover from a catastrophic injury. Reeve was medically reclassified a couple of times during the course of his treatments, regaining movement years after the doctors said it was impossible. They still don’t know how he did it but, at the risk of sounding maudlin, I do: In the breast of but a mortal man beat the heart of a hero. RIP Superman. Kael
A couple of random but eerie coincidences that I noticed concerning Mr. Reeve's passing (I haven't read it anywhere, but it's possible that the media has already explored it in some countries):
I know this barely qualifies as information, but still, noteworthy.
Regards, Redux 19:40, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I really don't like the new picture. It's very dark. Can we get a better quality? Lord knows it was printed multiple times over the last decade. Mike H 21:34, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
I read Reeves book, the one he wrote after his accident. I like how he noticed the people in the hospital - that were not exactly white collar (in todays society). I bet that he had very good care. I would like to recognize all CNA's or certified nursing assistants who take care of people whom are paralyzed. It is very difficult to reposition people who are paralyzed and to find, prevent and treat (once started) bed sore. A bed sore is also a sign of blood pooling in the heart because people have not been repositioned enough. If we would recognize the CNA and pay this position more attention and more money the good so called assistants, we would have less pressure sores. Frequently RN's are trained that the turning of a patient is the ASSISTANTS JOB. A very important job indeed that it is a two or three person job and should be treated as such. Christopher Reeves nor anyone should have a bedsore in the hospital. This is very preventable. Although I do not know Christopher Reeves personally - I so respect his work on this earth.
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"Strangely, in this same year, Christopher Reeve's good friend Robin Williams also became a star " Is it really so strange that they became stars in the same year? It's a coincidence, yes, but it's hardly spooky.
Those of you who like Christopher Reeve (I happen to be one of those people who admire and like him), the web page I'm about to show will make everybody who happens to be a fan of Chritopher Reeve very mad. As I was searching for articles about Christopher Reeve on Yahoo, I found this web page written by some sick evil man who claims Christopher Reeve was a selfish person and happens to call him an asshole. I thought that many people would be interested to read this sick article. If anybody checks out this web site and reads the article from this horrible person, please post. I like to read peoples comments about this web site:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve
Reeve has received some "legitimate" criticism by the "disabled" community for advocating that people with disabilities are medically crippled and should be repaired (healed to a "normal" state of health). This parallels those in the deaf community who believe that hearing loss is something of an "alternative lifesytle" rather than a disability. Personally, I agree with Reeve and disagree with this outlook, though certainly no one should have any treatment forced upon them either. When I find a more concrete online resource in this regard, I'll add it here.
Do we need the link that was made by George "Maddox" Ouzounian. Reffering to Christopher Reeve as a selfish asshole is very absurd and mean. The man is dead, and was disabled in a horse accident for God's sake. If it's alright with anybody, can I delete the link for Maddox?-- Gramaic 23:08, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The viewpoint of the article, and presumably of yourself, is that the disabled should just disappear from view. Why? Because their infirmities remind us of our own mortality, and that makes us uncomfortable. Basically, the view expressed in that article is fascistic: That anyone who is not able-bodied has no right to try to live a normal life and to try to further the cause of others in a similar plight. Yeh, that's real "relevant". But it's the typical European viewpoint. Wahkeenah 14:45, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
It's also a typical European viewpoint not to censor content because it happens to be the opposite of personal believes. But I can't imagine someone from the USA would ever understand this. DJ John 13:57, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
The link name IS ALREADY IN THE LINK. I have not censored the link. You are restating its name explicitly FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ADVERTISING THAT WEBSITE. That is spam, son. Either you yourself are the author of that website, or you have some personal reason for pushing it. Since you refuse to offer any alternative explanation, I am free to draw my own conclusions. Wahkeenah 14:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
I think I finally get the point. That Maddox guy (mad ox, get it?) is a satirist, part of whose mission is to "bait" as many folks as possible. And he got me, along with others on this page. So I have restored your precious link and have changed the description to point out that it's supposed to be satire, not slander. Have a nice Dane, er, Day. :) Wahkeenah 15:30, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
You finally got it ;-) Sorry for the trolling, but it was quite amusing. The truth is that I don't really care if the link is there or not, but hey, it's always great to give people a kick, and you most certainly get a kick out of anger. DJ John 20:53, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
The second paragraph from the article:
Is pretty incredibly POV. I'm surprised it's been in the article so long. Can we remove it without anyone complaining? — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd be fine with that change. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Feel free to make the change. :) Wahkeenah 21:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
There are two photos at the bottom of the page with no captions or context. What are they photos of? Why should we care? Someone needs to incorporate them into the article somehow (the one that appears to be him as a teen could go in an early history section) and give them Good Captions. I'd do it, but I don't exactly know what they are of. — Frecklefoot | Talk 18:41, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
One of the quotes for Reeve is "If there is no great glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do."
Is there a citation for this quote? The same words are used in the second season of Angel and a quick Google search suggests that no one but Wikipedia and one guy on a forum attribute this quote to Reeve.
Hello all. I've removed the section that read:
To this day, people see Superman in Christopher Reeve. After leaving the role, he was reportedly greeted and called Superman by those who recognized him in public, but he good naturedly accepted the association and acknowledged it as his most famous role. Additionally, many who knew him found that his real life personality closely matched Superman's, in that he was a genuinely kind, friendly man who was very down to Earth and easy going.
Feel free to put it back if you object, but it seems incredibly POV to me! -
Gobeirne
17:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the date of his wife's death is different on her page and Christopher's page. Was it yesterday, the 6th, or today, the 7th? When I last checked it said the 7th for Christopher's page and the 6th for her page! 64.107.54.6 21:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell there is really nothing about his family on here. It mentions his wife Dana a few times but it doesn't actually give their marriage date etc. And wasn't she his second wife? I understand he has two grown kids and a young son.– Clpalmore 5:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
As someone of the same height myself (long upper body) I feel for the guy fighting an abrupt refusal. It makes me wonder how much of his Superman-era musculature he had retained on his chest and shoulders. Regardless of his stance on horse safety, the physics of pendulums and lever-arms were not in his favour in saying goodbye to the horse or hello to the ground. MaxEnt 00:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
You know, this article strikes me as leaning rather towards the positive POV-- better than leaning towards the negative, but still, it seems to portray Reeves as a hero, which, while I agree with the portrayal, is still a POV.... dunno if it warrents fixing but I thoght I'd point it out Kuronue 05:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I think this humor section is pointless and non-notable; as another editor has observed, every celebrity gets joked about. If we're going to include a humor section, we should use Charm's rewritten version [2]. -- Muchness 03:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I can't seem to locate anything in this article justifying that Reeve be in this category, anyone know anything about this? Homestarmy 05:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
The humor section is vandalism and pops up all the time. 67.161.26.190 10:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I thought I heard once that one reason the injury was so severe was that Mr. Reeve's hands got tied up in his reigns and he was unable to break his fall with his arms (as would usually be the case with such an accident.) Has anyone else heard this? If it can be verified, I think it would be worth adding to the article to avoid giving the impression that horse-riding is a mortally dangerous sport. Tim Bird 17:08, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
He was rendered a "vegetable" by his accident?? I thought that--somewhat unfortunate--term was used to refer to someone who was completely unaware, or at least apparently so. Christopher Reeve was a quadriplegic. He acted after his accident. He held strong views on some things; while I am diametrically opposed to those views, he was aware enough to express them. 140.147.160.78 18:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
I thought a "vegitable" is a person who cant use his brain anymore and is somewhat "dead" that he can do absolutely nothing but is still considered "alive" since he's still breathing.
What does the following sentence mean: "Chileans began to believe that Pinochet could be overthrown, and he did end up resigning in April 1988"? Pinochet resigning?? -- 146.155.232.13 17:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC) ~~
I think casting brandon Routh as Supemran was a terrible mistake.Warner Bros should have waited ten years before casting William Reeves(The teenage son of Christopher)as Superman.I don't think we need to discuss who looks more closer to Christopher Reeve than his own son. Instead they casted this guy who has funny hair as Superman and also ignored Reeve's outstanding performance in SUperman 3 and 4 by making this a direct sequal to Superman 2. Superman 4 carried an important message for us al from Reeve.I think if WIlliam Reeve takes on the role of his father one day,the movie should be called Superman 5 with better plots than SUperman returns such as placing Batman in the movie and increasing the list of villans such as Lex and the joker together. Nadirali 15:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
I've put an in use tag for a few moments, so I can clean up the refs: I had the work all completed and got into an edit conflict with anon - will be done in just a few moments. Sandy ( Talk) 14:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Since that paragraph is constantly being edited and turned into a rant against stem cell research, I'll allow you to voice your complaints here. All I have to say is that I find it telling that you always delete the sentence about scientists being unhappy with the old lines because they were contaminated. I can see why you would not like facts, though. I guess they usually go against your beliefs. 70.231.234.224 01:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
12/11/06 Hi. I am not trying to start a fight with you. I see you have put a lot of time in and improved this profile on Christopher Reeve a great deal. I am not trying to undue any of your work, just correct a part you repeatedly misrepresent. We seem to be at different places journalistically. When writing about a deceased person, the person has a lifespan from their birth to their death and their life's career falls during that time. You seem determined to include controversial stuff on this subject AFTER Reeve died which are not relevant to his personal position on the subject or his personal active lobbying. The way you are going you will have stuff 10 or 20 years after Reeve's death included about the research long after Reeve's lobbying on it is forgotten.
The place to mention the mouse cells is in the stem cell article in the controversy section, not in Reeve's article. This mouse cells stuff did not influence Reeeve's position. Check out August 16, 2001 entry for Reeve's actual position on the subject following President Bush's policy announcement. Reeve released a statement Statement of Christopher Reeve on President Bush's Decision on Stem Cell Research immediately following the announcement which he stuck to and even enlarged to incorporate human cloning or as Reeve liked to call it somatic cell nuclear transfer. I recommend keeping this paragraph of Reeve's position and lobbying on the research to just that--his position and lobbying. Everything else is not relevant to this article. 67.98.154.56 ( talk • contribs)
12/12/06 For one thing Mr/Ms Nasty 70.132.23.138 I cannot take you seriously at all for reverting Reeve's position whether you think he went too far or not. The South Park thing was not mine, I found it archived with the older version of Reeve's position without your bias against President Bush which consistently misreprents his policy. I have supplied a White House fact sheet, President Bush's own editorial he wrote to the New York Times on the subject in 2001, as well as Reeve being interviewed in Australia by Kerry O'Brien talking about his meaning of "unfettered scientific inquiry" which he said was meant to be open-ended, as well as Reeve's own statement he released at the time and the citing of a August 16, 2001 news entry where he contradicted himself from the year before. It sounds to me like you have your mind made up to be bias for this research in this article and can't fairly present the subject. You should refrain from doing any more to this article on this subject.
P.S. Here is a recent poll showing that the public opposes this research New Poll: Americans Continue To Oppose Funding Stem Cell Research That Destroys Human Embryos. Polls, as you know, don't mean anything. They are only snap shots in time that take the pulse on how a question is worded. The polls you only look at probably have the words of diseases and disorders in them to give the idea of false hope and leave out the differing both the controverisal human embryonic stem cell research from the uncontroversial and wide supported adult stem cell research (on fat cells, umbilical cord, placenta, and more)
P.P.S. 70.132.23.138 Now that I know you are a bad faith editor and vandal, I will continue to reverse your changes. 67.98.154.56 ( talk • contribs)
User:67.161.26.190 you yourself are a bad faith editor for also going into personal attacks with those who disagree with you. You and 70.132.23.138 are both unabashedly for this controversial research so much that it clouds your judgement into not being able to write objective prose on the subject. It would be wise to reframe from making any edits on the subject until you both can think less biased about it. 67.98.154.56 21:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Christopher's appearance in a 2000 Superbowl commercial should be added to his life-story. Here's the link to add to the references: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zbEsQYMb0 74.138.222.38 03:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Derek
"He suffered from mastocytosis, a red blood cell destroying disorder"
Mastocytocis is a WHITE blood cell DISORDER, causing an increase in the level of mast cells. I will change it to "He suffered from mastocytosis, a blood cell disorder"
I noticed this article is a current GA-nominee. However, the images are copyrighted and do not contain a fair use rationale. This would be sufficient cause for a quick-fail. I'm going to leave this message for a week; if it isn't resolved by then, I am going to fail the nomination. Er rab ee 18:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I just looked over it, and they all seem to be fine. Either they changed recently, or I'm missing something. Wrad 04:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Some more detailed comments:
I'll put it on hold for now. Er rab ee 15:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the picture of superman a bit much? Okay, we get it he played superman but this is an article about christopher reeve. Maybe later in the article or on the superman page it would work but by beginning an article on the ACTOR it sort of overshadows the man to show the character. Can we not use a picture of just him, preferably in his later years? I did a quick search on google and thought these were good. However, I make no claims to their legal status for use and post them merely as examples:
http://combatarms.mu.nu/archives/christopher_reeve_supermandead.jpg
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2004-10/14609573.jpg
http://news.com.com/i/ne/p/2004/reeve_chris190x239.jpg
http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/reeve_full.jpg
Personally, the first one is my favorite because you get a nice, good profile of him with his usual cheerful demeanor!
According to obituaries, he died of heart failure. He suffered cardiac arrest before he died. Does this have anything to do with myocardial infarction? 74.36.25.237 20:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
He appeared in Smallville as Dr. Virgil Swan and the location of one of Lex Luthers 33.1 facilities in the TV series is called "Reeve's Dam".
No mention of his ancestry.Does anyone know? Since I see Val Kilmer's and Brandon Routh's ancestry mentioned so I think it's necessary we add it.Does anyone have info on his ancestry?- Vmrgrsergr 05:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Back to business
I think the article should stay in one piece and not separated. Christopher Reeve was a hero off screen as well as on screen. They were the same man- why even think of 2 articles?
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Why is South Park mentioned? It should not be on the Christopher Reeve bio page!
I agree that the South Park mention is inappropriate and has no place on his entry. He had no involvement with the episode, and as a parody is merely slander. Premium310 ( talk) 01:03, 13
February 2008 (UTC)premium310 2/12/08
==South Park parody==
Christopher Reeve is parodied in the South Park episode crazy crips (add link). The episode portrays and implicitly mocks his slow manner of speech after the accident (or perhaps it mocks people's knee-jerk adulation after the accident). Also the episode shows Reeve doing outrageous things like sucking stem cells from fetuses and walking around, and battling versus Gene Hackman as if the Superman plots were real.
---Marma —Preceding
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22:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Reeve was not a politician, he was an actor. By this rationale, then every celebrity page deserves its little article about how South Park made fun of them. And why would anyone do that except to promote South Park? Ridiculous. Neurolanis ( talk) 21:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Ahem, please stop with the name-calling. Reeve was a great actor and needs a better entry. If I remember correctly, Reeve said a single word in a single episode. Put it on the South Park page, not here. Jarhed ( talk) 08:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
"Reeve worked out the schedules of Love of Life and the play so that he would be able to do both." While I'm aware that Reeve played Ben Harper on the Love of Life daytime TV show in the 1970's, this has not been introduced in any way; it just turns up in the quoted sentence. Perhaps a line or two about when and how he got the job with maybe a few interesting details about his participation in a soap opera mght be worthwhile. Dick Kimball ( talk) 18:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I am in support of this split. The Reeve page is already very long, and his filmography is VERY long also. A split would be appreciated. Limetolime 01:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
He was actually quite hostile towards Scientology, claiming to once have been subjected to an E-meter test and thinking is was a sham. I'm removing this article from that category. Willpower 20:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Please thoroughly document any mention of Scientology in this article. Scientology is controversial and should not be mentioned unless documentation thoroughly supports it. Jarhed ( talk) 08:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
The South Park parody should be mentioned. I'm going to be bold and add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO ( talk • contribs) 18:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Nowhere in this article is there any reference to his ethnic backround. It simply states that he is American. Do we have any varified data for his ancestry?-- Damir H. ( talk) 06:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Some more descriptive, medical, scientific basis for the injuries he sustained in the accident would be beneficial for this article. It currently states briefly in the first section that he had an equestrian accident and details in the 'Recovery' section that he 'destroyed' his first and second vertebrae, but some more background info on the particulars may be helpful and informative. It could also be construed as salacious and unnecessary by some, but I figured it was worth bringing up as a topic for discussion. Any thoughts? Evixir ( talk) 20:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
This is a bio, not a medical article. Please link to other articles appropriately. Jarhed ( talk) 08:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that the main photo (to the top right) exactly captures Reeve the way he would have wanted to be remembered. Usually celebrities are remembered with a picture that captures them in the peak of their success and health, and I think that Mr. Reeve deserves no less. Neurolanis ( talk) 21:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Totally agreed -- Mark1512 ( talk) 17:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
If you have a better image then add it. In my opinion, the best image would be of him in one of his broadway appearances. I could care less what he "deserves". This is a bio not a hagiography. Jarhed ( talk) 08:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
foi super no filme e na tragedia, infelismente acontece coisas ruins com quem não merece
Hi, please speak English on the English Wiki. Jarhed ( talk) 08:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Brandon Routh played the title role in Superman Returns released in 2006.The handsome actor is simple, humble fellow who paid a rich tribute to the late Christopher Reeve, the very successful Superman in four films.
An entire section devoted to a one sentence opinion? The sentence which has very little to do with christoper reeve —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharryb ( talk • contribs) 21:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
How could Dana Reeve have be his spouse from 1992–2006, her death, if Christopher Reeve died in 2004? 84.135.92.231 ( talk) 20:56, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
You people are an irresponsible bunch. Christopher Reeve died of heart failure. He never had a heart attack. Get your facts straight and correct such mistakes when needed. 74.35.241.214 ( talk) 22:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
At the risk of causing anger, one point of view is that Chris Reeve died of egotistic thrill seeking. From the time he could shave, he seemed bent upon proving hypermasculinity, to himself or others? Across decades he seemed to taunt injury and fate, although being the father of several children. He took paralysis as a "personal assault" for which he had no responsibility, and up with which he would not put. He soon behaved -see 1996 political party conventions -as if there was some vacant role for National Disability Super-Spokesperson and he was best qualified for the role, bar none. Able bodied persons do not realize how much Chris Reeve came to be disliked or even loathed by a significant percent of PWDs in both the USA and Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.142.167 ( talk) 00:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
The change from "ICU Psycosis" to "delerium" was a good faith attempt at improving the clarity of this article. However, ICU Psycosis is a specific form of delerium, unique to the situation in which Mr. Reeve found himself at the time. Mk5384 ( talk) 21:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the date of Christopher Reeve falling off a horse deserves a mention in the dates section on the front page. It's best left as just mentioning dates of kings taking the throne, wars starting / ending and that sort of thing. Civilians falling off horses just doesn't rate, even if they die from the fall. Owen214 ( talk) 11:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Should their be a Superman box at the bottom of the page? I was just wondering if you guys think that Reeve's involvement with the films warrants a link box. Is there perhaps a more specific "Superman in other media" box instead of just a Superman box we should use? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.62.126 ( talk) 17:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I propose the addition of www.Christopherreeve.co.uk to further reading under Christopher Reeve http://www.christopherreeve.co.uk it is a Community to share the life and works of Christopher Reeves and has a lot of information and pictures from throughout Christopher Reeve's Lifetime. Alexei TexasPete ( talk) 13:08, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm happy to let another editor decide if it belongs or not. I'm also happy if another user decides to re-add it. I have simply stated that I do not believe it infringes any of those and yet all you can do is quote the rules? I have stated why it should be there, for example if you wish to know more about the Apern Papers you can see what the story was, who starred, list of characters, what is it based upon, where it was staged and many more I am simply implying that the Wikipedia article is good but can't go into the depth required hence the further reading? Is there not Compromise of sort? TexasPete ( talk) 15:43, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Wctaiwan, I think it passes number 11 as it's not a blog or a fan site it is simply a community of content exactly the same as Wikipedia the only difference is that it focuses on Christopher Reeve, Nothing is heresy everything comes direct from source and is a community effort meaning people can add and edit thanks TexasPete ( talk) 15:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi whilst I disagree that it is a fan site, I will agree with the masses and not attempt to add it again, unlike Wikipedia the information is reliable and can be very clearly fact checked with no errors. I regret that people wishing to know more about Christopher Reeve will not be given the opportunity. TexasPete ( talk) 16:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The listed website for Reeve: ( http://www.christopherreeve.com) appears to have lapsed and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyl56 ( talk • contribs) 07:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Did he really suffer from malaria; it doesn't usually exist in the USA. Where's the evidence? Francis Hannaway ( talk) 12:30, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Per the two sources cited, and others such as this [4], Reeve never became a member of Scientology, and at most briefly took some introductory services, thus his inclusion in the category of "Former Scientologists" is inappropriate. It was his skepticism that compelled him to not join the Church to begin with, as every source available indicates. Laval ( talk) 14:42, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Christopher Reeve was a Pound Ridge, New York resident, but he died of a heart attack while he was hospitalized at Northern Westchester Hospital in Mount Kisco, New York. Pound Ridge and Mount Kisco are two towns that are only a few miles apart. Reeve's info box gives his place of death as Mount Kisco, even though he actually lived in nearby Pound Ridge. It's my belief that a person's place of residence should be listed as his/her place of death, even though that person might have actually died at a nearby hospital. It's silly to give the location of a hospital as a person's place of death when that person might have lived for many years in a neighboring town.
My question is, should Christopher Reeve's info box show Pound Ridge or Mount Kisco as his "place of death?" I think that Mount Kisco would be the correct choice. I don't know what Wikipedia's policy is on this issue, but I do know that MANY people died in a hospital that is NOT located in their city of residence.
I know that this issue pertains to many Wikipedia articles. For example, the actress Zita Johann lived in Orangeburg, New York, but she died at nearby Nyack Hospital, in Nyack, New York. Johann's info box gives Nyack as her place of death, even though she was an Orangeburg resident.
In Christopher Reeve's case, should his info box show Pound Ridge or Mount Kisco as his place of death? I need an answer to this question.
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The article states that the film The Bounty Reeve was offered a part in was a "remake of Mutiny on the Bounty". This isn't the case - it's simply another film also based on the same historical event. Angmering ( talk) 22:20, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Got an editor who's removing the description of Princeton Day School as "exclusive", despite it being supported by a cite from a reliable source. (I had a previous RS as well, but he refused to accept that one.) The editor clearly knows nothing about the elite,m exclusive prep schools on the northeast, and is using his own lack of knowledge to describe my edit as "subjective" -- but any school whose tuition is $30,000 a year [5] is, by any definition, exclusive, since only a small portion of the population can afford the $400,000 it takes to send one's child there from Pre-K to graduation from high school. BMK ( talk) 23:55, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Go to Phillips Exeter, Phillips Andover, The Lawrenceville School, and other schools that are, by your definition, "elite." Non of them mention eliteness. That is because eliteness has no clear definition. By school spirit, anyone could say their school is elite. No Wikipedia page of a school uses such adjectives because "elite" and "selective" are peacock terms. Even many public colleges are $30,000; are you counting them as "elite" too? It depends who is talking. "The school is elite" is not a fact, but rather an opinion of yours, because someone else could potentially disagree. -- Andymii ( talk) 02:13, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
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The subsection, "2001," lists the following information:
Prior to the filming of Hannibal, Reeve was offered the part of primary antagonist Mason Verger, based on his work as a wheelchair-bound police officer in Above Suspicion. Not having read the novel, Reeve was delighted with the opportunity to return to acting. However, upon realizing that Verger was a quadriplegic, facially disfigured child rapist, Reeve withdrew from the project in disgust. The role was later accepted by secondary choice Gary Oldman.[56][57]
I was interested in learning more about Reeve's withdrawal from the mentioned role, but was unable to turn anything up with some quick searches. I followed the references 56 and 57 and was unable to find any information regarding the claim. I have never edited Wikipedia before. Not sure what to do here. The information simply does not appear to have anything to do with the references. --P — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.139.82.103 ( talk) 22:55, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
The phrase " He was confined to a wheelchair" is not appropriate language and can be offensive to those who use wheel chairs.
I would suggest the phrase to saw "He used a wheelchair and portable ventilator" rather than "confined to".
Wheelchairs are not simply devices that people are confined too, but rather a device to help people use the world that they would not be able to access due to constraints in our communities that don't accommodate their disability otherwise.
Further the term "A quadriplegic" is used. A person is not "A something" they are a person with something. And quadriplegia is being used less frequently in disabilities studies.This language would be best if it said "He developed tetraplegia".
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Hi everyone,
I think a bit of reorganization would make the overall arc of Reeve's life more clear. I propose putting the content on his political advocacy, which is currently covered in multiple sections, into one section. This would make it clearer how he was actually really experienced at this stuff before the accident, and also help the reader quickly find out what his views were. I also propose putting the developments of his personal life into a Personal life section to make that story easier to follow. Thoughts? Take care, Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:19, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
P.S. I think a good model for this article in terms of organization would be Katharine Hepburn, which is a Featured Article. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 20:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the following:
All human biomedical information, especially claims about the efficacy of treatment, require Wikipedia's guidelines for reliable medical sources to be followed. The sentences I removed are probably undue emphasis for this section anyway, as locomotor training is just one of the many interesting research initiatives that the Foundation has funded. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the following passages from the article. It's true, as far as I know, but I think it's too much detail for an encyclopedia article. "Early life" sections are usually kept brief. Best, Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
This entry reads a bit more like a romance novel than an encyclopedia entry. How does one go about editing it down? Avocats ( talk) 13:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
An example:
Late in his freshman year, Reeve received a letter from Stark Hesseltine, a high-powered New York City agent who had discovered Robert Redford and who represented actors such as Richard Chamberlain, Michael Douglas, and Susan Sarandon. Hesseltine had seen Reeve in A Month in the Country and wanted to represent him. Reeve was very excited and kept re-reading the letter to make sure of what it said. Reeve was impatient with school and anxious to get on with his career. The two met, but Reeve was surprised to find that Hesseltine strongly supported his promise to his mother and stepfather to complete college. They decided that instead of dropping out of school, Reeve would come to New York once a month to meet casting agents and producers to find work for the summer vacation.[16]
While a freshman, Reeve was recruited by Stark Hesseltine, a high-powered New York City agent who had seen Reeve in A Month in the Country. Hesseltine had Reeve come to New York monthly to meet casting agents and producers while completing college.[16] Avocats ( talk) 13:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I would like to push this article to featured article status because of the hard work that the late great Christopher Reeve put in as a champion of those living with disabilities and other afflictions that would otherwise leave others living with what he lived through as a true man of steel and has continued to do great work through his charity Kirbopher2004 ( talk) 20:34, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Far too detailed and unsourced to be a feature article. Reeve’s notable activism is buried in fluff. Avocats ( talk) 13:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
add in mentions of him in south park please!! 2606:5D00:9802:2F00:19C8:BB55:33DA:95E4 ( talk) 06:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
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I just read that Christopher Reeve has passed away. The article was at the Drudge Report website. R.I.P. Superman. -- Demonslave 05:11, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
There's no independent confirmation, and Drudge isn't 100% reliable. Wait for some other sources to pick up on it. It's better to be late than wrong, especially about dead celebrities. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:24, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Well, that didn't take long. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:31, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Actually, you didn't get to it first, Jewbacca did. Sorry. -- Cyrius| ✎ 05:39, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Goodbye hero! -- Uswzb 12:52, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I think this picture says it all. From [1]. 63.130.195.158 00:54, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This is a talk page so I want to post my humble opinion: I used to believe Superman was a work of fiction. Christopher Reeves showed me he was the real Superman because of his brave battle after the accident. I was hoping he'd walk, but he broke my heart with his death.
I just want to say good bye Superman!!!
Sincerely yours, " Antonio Tearful Martin"
If you think some of the Reeve stuff on the net is in bad taste, you should see the 4th Feb 2006 entry at link title
I never liked the movies much, nor paid attention to the man - until he demonstrated the remarkable capacity to recover from a catastrophic injury. Reeve was medically reclassified a couple of times during the course of his treatments, regaining movement years after the doctors said it was impossible. They still don’t know how he did it but, at the risk of sounding maudlin, I do: In the breast of but a mortal man beat the heart of a hero. RIP Superman. Kael
A couple of random but eerie coincidences that I noticed concerning Mr. Reeve's passing (I haven't read it anywhere, but it's possible that the media has already explored it in some countries):
I know this barely qualifies as information, but still, noteworthy.
Regards, Redux 19:40, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I really don't like the new picture. It's very dark. Can we get a better quality? Lord knows it was printed multiple times over the last decade. Mike H 21:34, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
I read Reeves book, the one he wrote after his accident. I like how he noticed the people in the hospital - that were not exactly white collar (in todays society). I bet that he had very good care. I would like to recognize all CNA's or certified nursing assistants who take care of people whom are paralyzed. It is very difficult to reposition people who are paralyzed and to find, prevent and treat (once started) bed sore. A bed sore is also a sign of blood pooling in the heart because people have not been repositioned enough. If we would recognize the CNA and pay this position more attention and more money the good so called assistants, we would have less pressure sores. Frequently RN's are trained that the turning of a patient is the ASSISTANTS JOB. A very important job indeed that it is a two or three person job and should be treated as such. Christopher Reeves nor anyone should have a bedsore in the hospital. This is very preventable. Although I do not know Christopher Reeves personally - I so respect his work on this earth.
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"Strangely, in this same year, Christopher Reeve's good friend Robin Williams also became a star " Is it really so strange that they became stars in the same year? It's a coincidence, yes, but it's hardly spooky.
Those of you who like Christopher Reeve (I happen to be one of those people who admire and like him), the web page I'm about to show will make everybody who happens to be a fan of Chritopher Reeve very mad. As I was searching for articles about Christopher Reeve on Yahoo, I found this web page written by some sick evil man who claims Christopher Reeve was a selfish person and happens to call him an asshole. I thought that many people would be interested to read this sick article. If anybody checks out this web site and reads the article from this horrible person, please post. I like to read peoples comments about this web site:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve
Reeve has received some "legitimate" criticism by the "disabled" community for advocating that people with disabilities are medically crippled and should be repaired (healed to a "normal" state of health). This parallels those in the deaf community who believe that hearing loss is something of an "alternative lifesytle" rather than a disability. Personally, I agree with Reeve and disagree with this outlook, though certainly no one should have any treatment forced upon them either. When I find a more concrete online resource in this regard, I'll add it here.
Do we need the link that was made by George "Maddox" Ouzounian. Reffering to Christopher Reeve as a selfish asshole is very absurd and mean. The man is dead, and was disabled in a horse accident for God's sake. If it's alright with anybody, can I delete the link for Maddox?-- Gramaic 23:08, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The viewpoint of the article, and presumably of yourself, is that the disabled should just disappear from view. Why? Because their infirmities remind us of our own mortality, and that makes us uncomfortable. Basically, the view expressed in that article is fascistic: That anyone who is not able-bodied has no right to try to live a normal life and to try to further the cause of others in a similar plight. Yeh, that's real "relevant". But it's the typical European viewpoint. Wahkeenah 14:45, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
It's also a typical European viewpoint not to censor content because it happens to be the opposite of personal believes. But I can't imagine someone from the USA would ever understand this. DJ John 13:57, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
The link name IS ALREADY IN THE LINK. I have not censored the link. You are restating its name explicitly FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF ADVERTISING THAT WEBSITE. That is spam, son. Either you yourself are the author of that website, or you have some personal reason for pushing it. Since you refuse to offer any alternative explanation, I am free to draw my own conclusions. Wahkeenah 14:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
I think I finally get the point. That Maddox guy (mad ox, get it?) is a satirist, part of whose mission is to "bait" as many folks as possible. And he got me, along with others on this page. So I have restored your precious link and have changed the description to point out that it's supposed to be satire, not slander. Have a nice Dane, er, Day. :) Wahkeenah 15:30, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
You finally got it ;-) Sorry for the trolling, but it was quite amusing. The truth is that I don't really care if the link is there or not, but hey, it's always great to give people a kick, and you most certainly get a kick out of anger. DJ John 20:53, August 7, 2005 (UTC)
The second paragraph from the article:
Is pretty incredibly POV. I'm surprised it's been in the article so long. Can we remove it without anyone complaining? — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
I'd be fine with that change. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
Feel free to make the change. :) Wahkeenah 21:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
There are two photos at the bottom of the page with no captions or context. What are they photos of? Why should we care? Someone needs to incorporate them into the article somehow (the one that appears to be him as a teen could go in an early history section) and give them Good Captions. I'd do it, but I don't exactly know what they are of. — Frecklefoot | Talk 18:41, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
One of the quotes for Reeve is "If there is no great glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do."
Is there a citation for this quote? The same words are used in the second season of Angel and a quick Google search suggests that no one but Wikipedia and one guy on a forum attribute this quote to Reeve.
Hello all. I've removed the section that read:
To this day, people see Superman in Christopher Reeve. After leaving the role, he was reportedly greeted and called Superman by those who recognized him in public, but he good naturedly accepted the association and acknowledged it as his most famous role. Additionally, many who knew him found that his real life personality closely matched Superman's, in that he was a genuinely kind, friendly man who was very down to Earth and easy going.
Feel free to put it back if you object, but it seems incredibly POV to me! -
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17:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the date of his wife's death is different on her page and Christopher's page. Was it yesterday, the 6th, or today, the 7th? When I last checked it said the 7th for Christopher's page and the 6th for her page! 64.107.54.6 21:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell there is really nothing about his family on here. It mentions his wife Dana a few times but it doesn't actually give their marriage date etc. And wasn't she his second wife? I understand he has two grown kids and a young son.– Clpalmore 5:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
As someone of the same height myself (long upper body) I feel for the guy fighting an abrupt refusal. It makes me wonder how much of his Superman-era musculature he had retained on his chest and shoulders. Regardless of his stance on horse safety, the physics of pendulums and lever-arms were not in his favour in saying goodbye to the horse or hello to the ground. MaxEnt 00:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
You know, this article strikes me as leaning rather towards the positive POV-- better than leaning towards the negative, but still, it seems to portray Reeves as a hero, which, while I agree with the portrayal, is still a POV.... dunno if it warrents fixing but I thoght I'd point it out Kuronue 05:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I think this humor section is pointless and non-notable; as another editor has observed, every celebrity gets joked about. If we're going to include a humor section, we should use Charm's rewritten version [2]. -- Muchness 03:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I can't seem to locate anything in this article justifying that Reeve be in this category, anyone know anything about this? Homestarmy 05:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
The humor section is vandalism and pops up all the time. 67.161.26.190 10:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I thought I heard once that one reason the injury was so severe was that Mr. Reeve's hands got tied up in his reigns and he was unable to break his fall with his arms (as would usually be the case with such an accident.) Has anyone else heard this? If it can be verified, I think it would be worth adding to the article to avoid giving the impression that horse-riding is a mortally dangerous sport. Tim Bird 17:08, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
He was rendered a "vegetable" by his accident?? I thought that--somewhat unfortunate--term was used to refer to someone who was completely unaware, or at least apparently so. Christopher Reeve was a quadriplegic. He acted after his accident. He held strong views on some things; while I am diametrically opposed to those views, he was aware enough to express them. 140.147.160.78 18:05, 25 September 2006 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza
I thought a "vegitable" is a person who cant use his brain anymore and is somewhat "dead" that he can do absolutely nothing but is still considered "alive" since he's still breathing.
What does the following sentence mean: "Chileans began to believe that Pinochet could be overthrown, and he did end up resigning in April 1988"? Pinochet resigning?? -- 146.155.232.13 17:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC) ~~
I think casting brandon Routh as Supemran was a terrible mistake.Warner Bros should have waited ten years before casting William Reeves(The teenage son of Christopher)as Superman.I don't think we need to discuss who looks more closer to Christopher Reeve than his own son. Instead they casted this guy who has funny hair as Superman and also ignored Reeve's outstanding performance in SUperman 3 and 4 by making this a direct sequal to Superman 2. Superman 4 carried an important message for us al from Reeve.I think if WIlliam Reeve takes on the role of his father one day,the movie should be called Superman 5 with better plots than SUperman returns such as placing Batman in the movie and increasing the list of villans such as Lex and the joker together. Nadirali 15:50, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
I've put an in use tag for a few moments, so I can clean up the refs: I had the work all completed and got into an edit conflict with anon - will be done in just a few moments. Sandy ( Talk) 14:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Since that paragraph is constantly being edited and turned into a rant against stem cell research, I'll allow you to voice your complaints here. All I have to say is that I find it telling that you always delete the sentence about scientists being unhappy with the old lines because they were contaminated. I can see why you would not like facts, though. I guess they usually go against your beliefs. 70.231.234.224 01:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
12/11/06 Hi. I am not trying to start a fight with you. I see you have put a lot of time in and improved this profile on Christopher Reeve a great deal. I am not trying to undue any of your work, just correct a part you repeatedly misrepresent. We seem to be at different places journalistically. When writing about a deceased person, the person has a lifespan from their birth to their death and their life's career falls during that time. You seem determined to include controversial stuff on this subject AFTER Reeve died which are not relevant to his personal position on the subject or his personal active lobbying. The way you are going you will have stuff 10 or 20 years after Reeve's death included about the research long after Reeve's lobbying on it is forgotten.
The place to mention the mouse cells is in the stem cell article in the controversy section, not in Reeve's article. This mouse cells stuff did not influence Reeeve's position. Check out August 16, 2001 entry for Reeve's actual position on the subject following President Bush's policy announcement. Reeve released a statement Statement of Christopher Reeve on President Bush's Decision on Stem Cell Research immediately following the announcement which he stuck to and even enlarged to incorporate human cloning or as Reeve liked to call it somatic cell nuclear transfer. I recommend keeping this paragraph of Reeve's position and lobbying on the research to just that--his position and lobbying. Everything else is not relevant to this article. 67.98.154.56 ( talk • contribs)
12/12/06 For one thing Mr/Ms Nasty 70.132.23.138 I cannot take you seriously at all for reverting Reeve's position whether you think he went too far or not. The South Park thing was not mine, I found it archived with the older version of Reeve's position without your bias against President Bush which consistently misreprents his policy. I have supplied a White House fact sheet, President Bush's own editorial he wrote to the New York Times on the subject in 2001, as well as Reeve being interviewed in Australia by Kerry O'Brien talking about his meaning of "unfettered scientific inquiry" which he said was meant to be open-ended, as well as Reeve's own statement he released at the time and the citing of a August 16, 2001 news entry where he contradicted himself from the year before. It sounds to me like you have your mind made up to be bias for this research in this article and can't fairly present the subject. You should refrain from doing any more to this article on this subject.
P.S. Here is a recent poll showing that the public opposes this research New Poll: Americans Continue To Oppose Funding Stem Cell Research That Destroys Human Embryos. Polls, as you know, don't mean anything. They are only snap shots in time that take the pulse on how a question is worded. The polls you only look at probably have the words of diseases and disorders in them to give the idea of false hope and leave out the differing both the controverisal human embryonic stem cell research from the uncontroversial and wide supported adult stem cell research (on fat cells, umbilical cord, placenta, and more)
P.P.S. 70.132.23.138 Now that I know you are a bad faith editor and vandal, I will continue to reverse your changes. 67.98.154.56 ( talk • contribs)
User:67.161.26.190 you yourself are a bad faith editor for also going into personal attacks with those who disagree with you. You and 70.132.23.138 are both unabashedly for this controversial research so much that it clouds your judgement into not being able to write objective prose on the subject. It would be wise to reframe from making any edits on the subject until you both can think less biased about it. 67.98.154.56 21:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Christopher's appearance in a 2000 Superbowl commercial should be added to his life-story. Here's the link to add to the references: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zbEsQYMb0 74.138.222.38 03:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Derek
"He suffered from mastocytosis, a red blood cell destroying disorder"
Mastocytocis is a WHITE blood cell DISORDER, causing an increase in the level of mast cells. I will change it to "He suffered from mastocytosis, a blood cell disorder"
I noticed this article is a current GA-nominee. However, the images are copyrighted and do not contain a fair use rationale. This would be sufficient cause for a quick-fail. I'm going to leave this message for a week; if it isn't resolved by then, I am going to fail the nomination. Er rab ee 18:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
I just looked over it, and they all seem to be fine. Either they changed recently, or I'm missing something. Wrad 04:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Some more detailed comments:
I'll put it on hold for now. Er rab ee 15:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the picture of superman a bit much? Okay, we get it he played superman but this is an article about christopher reeve. Maybe later in the article or on the superman page it would work but by beginning an article on the ACTOR it sort of overshadows the man to show the character. Can we not use a picture of just him, preferably in his later years? I did a quick search on google and thought these were good. However, I make no claims to their legal status for use and post them merely as examples:
http://combatarms.mu.nu/archives/christopher_reeve_supermandead.jpg
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2004-10/14609573.jpg
http://news.com.com/i/ne/p/2004/reeve_chris190x239.jpg
http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/reeve_full.jpg
Personally, the first one is my favorite because you get a nice, good profile of him with his usual cheerful demeanor!
According to obituaries, he died of heart failure. He suffered cardiac arrest before he died. Does this have anything to do with myocardial infarction? 74.36.25.237 20:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
He appeared in Smallville as Dr. Virgil Swan and the location of one of Lex Luthers 33.1 facilities in the TV series is called "Reeve's Dam".
No mention of his ancestry.Does anyone know? Since I see Val Kilmer's and Brandon Routh's ancestry mentioned so I think it's necessary we add it.Does anyone have info on his ancestry?- Vmrgrsergr 05:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Back to business
I think the article should stay in one piece and not separated. Christopher Reeve was a hero off screen as well as on screen. They were the same man- why even think of 2 articles?
See John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis as an example of how to display marriage information. JFK's spouse is listed as Jackie. As she was his wife at time of death. Jackie O's information then lists the years of marriage to both JFK and Ari Onasssis. -- TRTX T / C
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Why is South Park mentioned? It should not be on the Christopher Reeve bio page!
I agree that the South Park mention is inappropriate and has no place on his entry. He had no involvement with the episode, and as a parody is merely slander. Premium310 ( talk) 01:03, 13
February 2008 (UTC)premium310 2/12/08
==South Park parody==
Christopher Reeve is parodied in the South Park episode crazy crips (add link). The episode portrays and implicitly mocks his slow manner of speech after the accident (or perhaps it mocks people's knee-jerk adulation after the accident). Also the episode shows Reeve doing outrageous things like sucking stem cells from fetuses and walking around, and battling versus Gene Hackman as if the Superman plots were real.
---Marma —Preceding
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Reeve was not a politician, he was an actor. By this rationale, then every celebrity page deserves its little article about how South Park made fun of them. And why would anyone do that except to promote South Park? Ridiculous. Neurolanis ( talk) 21:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Ahem, please stop with the name-calling. Reeve was a great actor and needs a better entry. If I remember correctly, Reeve said a single word in a single episode. Put it on the South Park page, not here. Jarhed ( talk) 08:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
"Reeve worked out the schedules of Love of Life and the play so that he would be able to do both." While I'm aware that Reeve played Ben Harper on the Love of Life daytime TV show in the 1970's, this has not been introduced in any way; it just turns up in the quoted sentence. Perhaps a line or two about when and how he got the job with maybe a few interesting details about his participation in a soap opera mght be worthwhile. Dick Kimball ( talk) 18:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I am in support of this split. The Reeve page is already very long, and his filmography is VERY long also. A split would be appreciated. Limetolime 01:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
He was actually quite hostile towards Scientology, claiming to once have been subjected to an E-meter test and thinking is was a sham. I'm removing this article from that category. Willpower 20:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Please thoroughly document any mention of Scientology in this article. Scientology is controversial and should not be mentioned unless documentation thoroughly supports it. Jarhed ( talk) 08:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
The South Park parody should be mentioned. I'm going to be bold and add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO ( talk • contribs) 18:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Nowhere in this article is there any reference to his ethnic backround. It simply states that he is American. Do we have any varified data for his ancestry?-- Damir H. ( talk) 06:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Some more descriptive, medical, scientific basis for the injuries he sustained in the accident would be beneficial for this article. It currently states briefly in the first section that he had an equestrian accident and details in the 'Recovery' section that he 'destroyed' his first and second vertebrae, but some more background info on the particulars may be helpful and informative. It could also be construed as salacious and unnecessary by some, but I figured it was worth bringing up as a topic for discussion. Any thoughts? Evixir ( talk) 20:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
This is a bio, not a medical article. Please link to other articles appropriately. Jarhed ( talk) 08:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that the main photo (to the top right) exactly captures Reeve the way he would have wanted to be remembered. Usually celebrities are remembered with a picture that captures them in the peak of their success and health, and I think that Mr. Reeve deserves no less. Neurolanis ( talk) 21:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Totally agreed -- Mark1512 ( talk) 17:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
If you have a better image then add it. In my opinion, the best image would be of him in one of his broadway appearances. I could care less what he "deserves". This is a bio not a hagiography. Jarhed ( talk) 08:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
foi super no filme e na tragedia, infelismente acontece coisas ruins com quem não merece
Hi, please speak English on the English Wiki. Jarhed ( talk) 08:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Brandon Routh played the title role in Superman Returns released in 2006.The handsome actor is simple, humble fellow who paid a rich tribute to the late Christopher Reeve, the very successful Superman in four films.
An entire section devoted to a one sentence opinion? The sentence which has very little to do with christoper reeve —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharryb ( talk • contribs) 21:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
How could Dana Reeve have be his spouse from 1992–2006, her death, if Christopher Reeve died in 2004? 84.135.92.231 ( talk) 20:56, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
You people are an irresponsible bunch. Christopher Reeve died of heart failure. He never had a heart attack. Get your facts straight and correct such mistakes when needed. 74.35.241.214 ( talk) 22:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
At the risk of causing anger, one point of view is that Chris Reeve died of egotistic thrill seeking. From the time he could shave, he seemed bent upon proving hypermasculinity, to himself or others? Across decades he seemed to taunt injury and fate, although being the father of several children. He took paralysis as a "personal assault" for which he had no responsibility, and up with which he would not put. He soon behaved -see 1996 political party conventions -as if there was some vacant role for National Disability Super-Spokesperson and he was best qualified for the role, bar none. Able bodied persons do not realize how much Chris Reeve came to be disliked or even loathed by a significant percent of PWDs in both the USA and Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.142.167 ( talk) 00:51, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
The change from "ICU Psycosis" to "delerium" was a good faith attempt at improving the clarity of this article. However, ICU Psycosis is a specific form of delerium, unique to the situation in which Mr. Reeve found himself at the time. Mk5384 ( talk) 21:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the date of Christopher Reeve falling off a horse deserves a mention in the dates section on the front page. It's best left as just mentioning dates of kings taking the throne, wars starting / ending and that sort of thing. Civilians falling off horses just doesn't rate, even if they die from the fall. Owen214 ( talk) 11:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Should their be a Superman box at the bottom of the page? I was just wondering if you guys think that Reeve's involvement with the films warrants a link box. Is there perhaps a more specific "Superman in other media" box instead of just a Superman box we should use? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.62.126 ( talk) 17:35, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I propose the addition of www.Christopherreeve.co.uk to further reading under Christopher Reeve http://www.christopherreeve.co.uk it is a Community to share the life and works of Christopher Reeves and has a lot of information and pictures from throughout Christopher Reeve's Lifetime. Alexei TexasPete ( talk) 13:08, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm happy to let another editor decide if it belongs or not. I'm also happy if another user decides to re-add it. I have simply stated that I do not believe it infringes any of those and yet all you can do is quote the rules? I have stated why it should be there, for example if you wish to know more about the Apern Papers you can see what the story was, who starred, list of characters, what is it based upon, where it was staged and many more I am simply implying that the Wikipedia article is good but can't go into the depth required hence the further reading? Is there not Compromise of sort? TexasPete ( talk) 15:43, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Wctaiwan, I think it passes number 11 as it's not a blog or a fan site it is simply a community of content exactly the same as Wikipedia the only difference is that it focuses on Christopher Reeve, Nothing is heresy everything comes direct from source and is a community effort meaning people can add and edit thanks TexasPete ( talk) 15:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi whilst I disagree that it is a fan site, I will agree with the masses and not attempt to add it again, unlike Wikipedia the information is reliable and can be very clearly fact checked with no errors. I regret that people wishing to know more about Christopher Reeve will not be given the opportunity. TexasPete ( talk) 16:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The listed website for Reeve: ( http://www.christopherreeve.com) appears to have lapsed and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyl56 ( talk • contribs) 07:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Did he really suffer from malaria; it doesn't usually exist in the USA. Where's the evidence? Francis Hannaway ( talk) 12:30, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Per the two sources cited, and others such as this [4], Reeve never became a member of Scientology, and at most briefly took some introductory services, thus his inclusion in the category of "Former Scientologists" is inappropriate. It was his skepticism that compelled him to not join the Church to begin with, as every source available indicates. Laval ( talk) 14:42, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Christopher Reeve was a Pound Ridge, New York resident, but he died of a heart attack while he was hospitalized at Northern Westchester Hospital in Mount Kisco, New York. Pound Ridge and Mount Kisco are two towns that are only a few miles apart. Reeve's info box gives his place of death as Mount Kisco, even though he actually lived in nearby Pound Ridge. It's my belief that a person's place of residence should be listed as his/her place of death, even though that person might have actually died at a nearby hospital. It's silly to give the location of a hospital as a person's place of death when that person might have lived for many years in a neighboring town.
My question is, should Christopher Reeve's info box show Pound Ridge or Mount Kisco as his "place of death?" I think that Mount Kisco would be the correct choice. I don't know what Wikipedia's policy is on this issue, but I do know that MANY people died in a hospital that is NOT located in their city of residence.
I know that this issue pertains to many Wikipedia articles. For example, the actress Zita Johann lived in Orangeburg, New York, but she died at nearby Nyack Hospital, in Nyack, New York. Johann's info box gives Nyack as her place of death, even though she was an Orangeburg resident.
In Christopher Reeve's case, should his info box show Pound Ridge or Mount Kisco as his place of death? I need an answer to this question.
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The article states that the film The Bounty Reeve was offered a part in was a "remake of Mutiny on the Bounty". This isn't the case - it's simply another film also based on the same historical event. Angmering ( talk) 22:20, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Got an editor who's removing the description of Princeton Day School as "exclusive", despite it being supported by a cite from a reliable source. (I had a previous RS as well, but he refused to accept that one.) The editor clearly knows nothing about the elite,m exclusive prep schools on the northeast, and is using his own lack of knowledge to describe my edit as "subjective" -- but any school whose tuition is $30,000 a year [5] is, by any definition, exclusive, since only a small portion of the population can afford the $400,000 it takes to send one's child there from Pre-K to graduation from high school. BMK ( talk) 23:55, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Go to Phillips Exeter, Phillips Andover, The Lawrenceville School, and other schools that are, by your definition, "elite." Non of them mention eliteness. That is because eliteness has no clear definition. By school spirit, anyone could say their school is elite. No Wikipedia page of a school uses such adjectives because "elite" and "selective" are peacock terms. Even many public colleges are $30,000; are you counting them as "elite" too? It depends who is talking. "The school is elite" is not a fact, but rather an opinion of yours, because someone else could potentially disagree. -- Andymii ( talk) 02:13, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
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The subsection, "2001," lists the following information:
Prior to the filming of Hannibal, Reeve was offered the part of primary antagonist Mason Verger, based on his work as a wheelchair-bound police officer in Above Suspicion. Not having read the novel, Reeve was delighted with the opportunity to return to acting. However, upon realizing that Verger was a quadriplegic, facially disfigured child rapist, Reeve withdrew from the project in disgust. The role was later accepted by secondary choice Gary Oldman.[56][57]
I was interested in learning more about Reeve's withdrawal from the mentioned role, but was unable to turn anything up with some quick searches. I followed the references 56 and 57 and was unable to find any information regarding the claim. I have never edited Wikipedia before. Not sure what to do here. The information simply does not appear to have anything to do with the references. --P — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.139.82.103 ( talk) 22:55, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
The phrase " He was confined to a wheelchair" is not appropriate language and can be offensive to those who use wheel chairs.
I would suggest the phrase to saw "He used a wheelchair and portable ventilator" rather than "confined to".
Wheelchairs are not simply devices that people are confined too, but rather a device to help people use the world that they would not be able to access due to constraints in our communities that don't accommodate their disability otherwise.
Further the term "A quadriplegic" is used. A person is not "A something" they are a person with something. And quadriplegia is being used less frequently in disabilities studies.This language would be best if it said "He developed tetraplegia".
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Hi everyone,
I think a bit of reorganization would make the overall arc of Reeve's life more clear. I propose putting the content on his political advocacy, which is currently covered in multiple sections, into one section. This would make it clearer how he was actually really experienced at this stuff before the accident, and also help the reader quickly find out what his views were. I also propose putting the developments of his personal life into a Personal life section to make that story easier to follow. Thoughts? Take care, Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:19, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
P.S. I think a good model for this article in terms of organization would be Katharine Hepburn, which is a Featured Article. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 20:43, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the following:
All human biomedical information, especially claims about the efficacy of treatment, require Wikipedia's guidelines for reliable medical sources to be followed. The sentences I removed are probably undue emphasis for this section anyway, as locomotor training is just one of the many interesting research initiatives that the Foundation has funded. Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
I've removed the following passages from the article. It's true, as far as I know, but I think it's too much detail for an encyclopedia article. "Early life" sections are usually kept brief. Best, Clayoquot ( talk | contribs) 05:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
This entry reads a bit more like a romance novel than an encyclopedia entry. How does one go about editing it down? Avocats ( talk) 13:38, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
An example:
Late in his freshman year, Reeve received a letter from Stark Hesseltine, a high-powered New York City agent who had discovered Robert Redford and who represented actors such as Richard Chamberlain, Michael Douglas, and Susan Sarandon. Hesseltine had seen Reeve in A Month in the Country and wanted to represent him. Reeve was very excited and kept re-reading the letter to make sure of what it said. Reeve was impatient with school and anxious to get on with his career. The two met, but Reeve was surprised to find that Hesseltine strongly supported his promise to his mother and stepfather to complete college. They decided that instead of dropping out of school, Reeve would come to New York once a month to meet casting agents and producers to find work for the summer vacation.[16]
While a freshman, Reeve was recruited by Stark Hesseltine, a high-powered New York City agent who had seen Reeve in A Month in the Country. Hesseltine had Reeve come to New York monthly to meet casting agents and producers while completing college.[16] Avocats ( talk) 13:59, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I would like to push this article to featured article status because of the hard work that the late great Christopher Reeve put in as a champion of those living with disabilities and other afflictions that would otherwise leave others living with what he lived through as a true man of steel and has continued to do great work through his charity Kirbopher2004 ( talk) 20:34, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Far too detailed and unsourced to be a feature article. Reeve’s notable activism is buried in fluff. Avocats ( talk) 13:40, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
add in mentions of him in south park please!! 2606:5D00:9802:2F00:19C8:BB55:33DA:95E4 ( talk) 06:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)