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Really? I fail to see how a vulgar tirade against a black politician qualifies as "civil rights activism." JayHubie ( talk) 17:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
No offense to the person responsible for it, but a side view is not particularly useful. JayHubie ( talk) 16:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
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I see no credible reason why this sourced content cannot be in the article. It may be very new news but sports journalism is one of the hallmarks of journalism coverage and this issue will be discussed for its merits again and again. As long as we report neutrally what is reported by the sources, we should be fine. I do suggest that some of the separate lines could be combined in paragraphs for easier reading. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 12:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't really see any libel issue. There are multiple reliable secondary sources that have reported on the matter. The statement is not (and should not be) presented as "fact" or presented in the voice of Wikipedia. "Malicious intent" is not meaningful as it only has relivance to damage claims resulting from libel. If secondary sources are properly referenced and nothing Kluwe said is treated by the article as fact, there does not seem to be any issue or at least I don't quite understand what the issue is. 108.60.192.148 ( talk) 17:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
This information is highly relevant to the article. We should not directly cite the Deadspin article, which is a primary source, but the secondary sources discussing it. It's not libel for us to report Kluwe's accusations. It's potentially libel on Kluwe's part, unless it is founded. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:35, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Since the article establishes how Kluwe is a gamer and that he's got a character in X-com, why is there no mention of the character based on him in Shadowrun Returns? I don't want to add any information because I don't know exactly what is required to be counted as valid source, but here's a reference:
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I've removed the reference to "team ownership" in the lead paragraph about friction between Kluwe and coaching staff as a result of his advocacy.
I cannot find any source identifying friction between Kluwe and team ownership, or that Vikings ownership supported the Minnesota "Gay Marriage Amendment."
In Kluwe's Deadspin article [1] (summarized in numerous secondary sources including ESPN [2]), Kluwe said team owner Zygi Wilf supported his activism.
Further, the Vikings' press statement [3] said that Vikings ownership "... supports and promotes tolerance, including on the subject of marriage equality."
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Really? I fail to see how a vulgar tirade against a black politician qualifies as "civil rights activism." JayHubie ( talk) 17:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
No offense to the person responsible for it, but a side view is not particularly useful. JayHubie ( talk) 16:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
I've removed this section for a several reasons:
Biographies of living persons ("BLP"s) must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment. This policy applies to any living person mentioned in a BLP, whether or not that person is the subject of the article, and to material about living persons in other articles and on other pages, including talk pages.[3] The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia rests with the person who adds or restores material.
I see no credible reason why this sourced content cannot be in the article. It may be very new news but sports journalism is one of the hallmarks of journalism coverage and this issue will be discussed for its merits again and again. As long as we report neutrally what is reported by the sources, we should be fine. I do suggest that some of the separate lines could be combined in paragraphs for easier reading. Sportfan5000 ( talk) 12:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't really see any libel issue. There are multiple reliable secondary sources that have reported on the matter. The statement is not (and should not be) presented as "fact" or presented in the voice of Wikipedia. "Malicious intent" is not meaningful as it only has relivance to damage claims resulting from libel. If secondary sources are properly referenced and nothing Kluwe said is treated by the article as fact, there does not seem to be any issue or at least I don't quite understand what the issue is. 108.60.192.148 ( talk) 17:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
This information is highly relevant to the article. We should not directly cite the Deadspin article, which is a primary source, but the secondary sources discussing it. It's not libel for us to report Kluwe's accusations. It's potentially libel on Kluwe's part, unless it is founded. – Muboshgu ( talk) 18:35, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Since the article establishes how Kluwe is a gamer and that he's got a character in X-com, why is there no mention of the character based on him in Shadowrun Returns? I don't want to add any information because I don't know exactly what is required to be counted as valid source, but here's a reference:
http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Kluwe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B81E:EE60:4488:E4A3:552:BC93 ( talk) 01:42, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
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I've removed the reference to "team ownership" in the lead paragraph about friction between Kluwe and coaching staff as a result of his advocacy.
I cannot find any source identifying friction between Kluwe and team ownership, or that Vikings ownership supported the Minnesota "Gay Marriage Amendment."
In Kluwe's Deadspin article [1] (summarized in numerous secondary sources including ESPN [2]), Kluwe said team owner Zygi Wilf supported his activism.
Further, the Vikings' press statement [3] said that Vikings ownership "... supports and promotes tolerance, including on the subject of marriage equality."
Msramming ( talk) 01:47, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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