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I notice that on the German Wikipedia this entry is much longer. Could someone who speaks German translate it and expand this article? Raffaello9 19:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a source for the implication that Avellone began the Fallout Bible specifically because he feared Van Buren would be cancelled? It's not the impression you'd get from reading it, and I don't really see the logic. It might be interesting to note that he lied directly to the fans several times in the Bible about it being connected to Fallout 3, although I think many weren't convinced. -- Kaffedrake 23:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
This article lacks citations utterly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.197.84 ( talk) 19:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I have not found anywhere a link to the bible itself. Should there be one made? _> MonstaPro: Talk 19:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
The recent rewrite is completely unsourced and uses non-free images without a rationale for inclusion in this article. I reverted to the version that was sourced with an article in Edge. That was not much but the rewritten version reads like something copied from an official bio and the quotations lack sourcing. It's just not clear where the info is from so per BLP concerns the previous version is it now. The changed version is in the history if someone wants to work on sourcing with reliable sources. Hekerui ( talk) 17:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I removed a proposed deletion note because checking the Google News archives I think there is significiant coverage. Further discussion can happen on WP:AFD if needed. Hekerui ( talk) 15:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
source: http://forums.obsidian.net/blog/1/entry-134-pcactionde-interview-translation/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.159.10.186 ( talk) 16:04, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
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@Dissident93: "I'm talking DLCs in general; if they can't be played without another product (base New Vegas), then they shouldn't really belong on the table as a separate entry." Then why not remove other entries like NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer or IWD: Heart of Winter? Are they not being removed because they have Wiki articles, or do you have some different arbitrary reasoning? -- Sek-2 ( talk) 20:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Masem:Response to your reversion. Anonymous-232 ( talk) 05:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
My edit was reverted with the note "unless this gains more attention, calling it out as a separate section is generally not appropriate per BLP". What would be "more attention"? Are there examples in gaming or elsewhere where I can compare and contrast? My only comparison points are Kevin Spacey (separate section), Alec Holowka (inline), and Jeremy Soule (inline). If you search this person's name on Google News, the first 10 articles are all about sexual assault allegations and/or severed ties. 7 of the next 10 are also about the allegations, but they were just breaking at that point. Multiple articles on the first page of regular Google also mention the allegations in the headline. A Bloomberg article I stumbled across while looking for comparison points theorizes that these allegations are the jumping off point for another #MeToo movement in gaming. [1] I don't think it's a stretch or original research to summarize them as "Sexual Assault Allegations and Severed Ties", as I did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Chris_Avellone&diff=964617165&oldid=964301256
Anonymous-232 ( talk) 05:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
A note: Avellone has published a Medium piece here [1], which is questionable to be used as source under BLP / WP:MANDY. I see Forbes' contributor Erik Cain has covered this [2] which itself is a unreliable source due to the nature of Forbes contributor. That all said: Avellone has stated he has filed lawsuits against his accusers. If we can get clear reliable sourcing, this is clearly appropriate to include, but at the current state of sourcing, this is questionable and I'm checking on BLP policy to make sure if we can include with thsese current -- Masem ( t) 18:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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Before the allegations surfaced, wasn't Avellone slated to be taking on further creative work with Disney for Star Wars?
How much work did he do on Jedi: Fallen Order? I know it was completely drowned out by subsequent coverage of the aformentioned circumstances, but immediately prior I distinctly remember reading about his work on Fallen Order and how he was to be a creative voice on Star Wars properties going forward.
Obviously, this didn't happen (and both Avellone and the SW ip are arguably worse for it), but it might be worth its own paragraph or just separate sentence in the bio section.
I'm willing to put in the footwork but someone else will need to actually make the edit because I'm uneducated in wikipedia's protocols and don't have the time to learn. 73.194.204.218 ( talk) 23:55, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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I notice that on the German Wikipedia this entry is much longer. Could someone who speaks German translate it and expand this article? Raffaello9 19:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a source for the implication that Avellone began the Fallout Bible specifically because he feared Van Buren would be cancelled? It's not the impression you'd get from reading it, and I don't really see the logic. It might be interesting to note that he lied directly to the fans several times in the Bible about it being connected to Fallout 3, although I think many weren't convinced. -- Kaffedrake 23:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
This article lacks citations utterly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.197.84 ( talk) 19:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I have not found anywhere a link to the bible itself. Should there be one made? _> MonstaPro: Talk 19:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
The recent rewrite is completely unsourced and uses non-free images without a rationale for inclusion in this article. I reverted to the version that was sourced with an article in Edge. That was not much but the rewritten version reads like something copied from an official bio and the quotations lack sourcing. It's just not clear where the info is from so per BLP concerns the previous version is it now. The changed version is in the history if someone wants to work on sourcing with reliable sources. Hekerui ( talk) 17:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I removed a proposed deletion note because checking the Google News archives I think there is significiant coverage. Further discussion can happen on WP:AFD if needed. Hekerui ( talk) 15:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
source: http://forums.obsidian.net/blog/1/entry-134-pcactionde-interview-translation/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.159.10.186 ( talk) 16:04, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
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@Dissident93: "I'm talking DLCs in general; if they can't be played without another product (base New Vegas), then they shouldn't really belong on the table as a separate entry." Then why not remove other entries like NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer or IWD: Heart of Winter? Are they not being removed because they have Wiki articles, or do you have some different arbitrary reasoning? -- Sek-2 ( talk) 20:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Masem:Response to your reversion. Anonymous-232 ( talk) 05:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
My edit was reverted with the note "unless this gains more attention, calling it out as a separate section is generally not appropriate per BLP". What would be "more attention"? Are there examples in gaming or elsewhere where I can compare and contrast? My only comparison points are Kevin Spacey (separate section), Alec Holowka (inline), and Jeremy Soule (inline). If you search this person's name on Google News, the first 10 articles are all about sexual assault allegations and/or severed ties. 7 of the next 10 are also about the allegations, but they were just breaking at that point. Multiple articles on the first page of regular Google also mention the allegations in the headline. A Bloomberg article I stumbled across while looking for comparison points theorizes that these allegations are the jumping off point for another #MeToo movement in gaming. [1] I don't think it's a stretch or original research to summarize them as "Sexual Assault Allegations and Severed Ties", as I did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Chris_Avellone&diff=964617165&oldid=964301256
Anonymous-232 ( talk) 05:05, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
A note: Avellone has published a Medium piece here [1], which is questionable to be used as source under BLP / WP:MANDY. I see Forbes' contributor Erik Cain has covered this [2] which itself is a unreliable source due to the nature of Forbes contributor. That all said: Avellone has stated he has filed lawsuits against his accusers. If we can get clear reliable sourcing, this is clearly appropriate to include, but at the current state of sourcing, this is questionable and I'm checking on BLP policy to make sure if we can include with thsese current -- Masem ( t) 18:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
References
Before the allegations surfaced, wasn't Avellone slated to be taking on further creative work with Disney for Star Wars?
How much work did he do on Jedi: Fallen Order? I know it was completely drowned out by subsequent coverage of the aformentioned circumstances, but immediately prior I distinctly remember reading about his work on Fallen Order and how he was to be a creative voice on Star Wars properties going forward.
Obviously, this didn't happen (and both Avellone and the SW ip are arguably worse for it), but it might be worth its own paragraph or just separate sentence in the bio section.
I'm willing to put in the footwork but someone else will need to actually make the edit because I'm uneducated in wikipedia's protocols and don't have the time to learn. 73.194.204.218 ( talk) 23:55, 26 January 2023 (UTC)