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Thanks, excellent article. Is it possible to get a photo? -- lk 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
There is an obvious problem in the last paragraph of this article, fundamentally here:
"....However, being primarily a combat weapon, battlefield conditions would seem to render the subtle advantages or disadvantages of either to almost nil. Of far more relevance would be the general size and quality of the blade, strategy, armor, and tactics employed; i. e., in any sort of combat engagement, the weapons being roughly equal, the curvature of the blade is about as immaterial as the clothing styles of the fencers...... I will latter explain why.-- 114.153.192.74 ( talk) 23:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
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Are these the same as tachi (大刀) (not 太刀!)? If yes, it should be mentioned in the article. bamse ( talk) 18:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Tachi(大刀) are pre-Heian or ancient japanese swords" developed from Han Dynasty models. By rule of thumb Tachi(大刀) are straight, literally Chokutō, in Japanese. Ancient Chokutō were strictly worn hanging with their cutting edge facing down. Thus by the way they had to be drawn and their intrinsic design Chokutō are functionally defined as hacking swords.
Tachi (太刀) are Heian and post-Heian swords which, contrary to the Chokutō, developed an outer curvature, away from the cutting edge. Tachi (太刀) swords were worn, not hanging, but rather stashed through the obi (帯) or sash of male kimonos, cutting edge facing always up. This allowed tachi (太刀) swords to deliver a deadly strike from above along with the very first drawing of the blade, unlike the case of the Chokutō. This curvature eventually reached mature development in the classic Katana (刀), the epitome of Japanese swords or Nihonto (日本刀).-- Luxgratia ( talk) 12:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Interestingly there seems to be at least one more spelling for tachi besides 大刀 and 太刀. According to this book, pages 28, 29, there are two spellings for pre-Heian straight swords: 大刀 and another spelling that translates as "horizontal sword" (not sure about the kanji). The author refers to the Todaiji kenmotsucho (register of objects deposited by the emperor at the Shōsōin). 大刀 are swords >60cm and "horizontal swords" are <60cm. bamse ( talk) 15:16, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
"It was created before development of differential tempering in Japanese swordsmithing" Differential tempering was not used in Japanese swordsmithing only differential hardening... -- 47.64.241.165 ( talk) 19:02, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks, excellent article. Is it possible to get a photo? -- lk 01:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
There is an obvious problem in the last paragraph of this article, fundamentally here:
"....However, being primarily a combat weapon, battlefield conditions would seem to render the subtle advantages or disadvantages of either to almost nil. Of far more relevance would be the general size and quality of the blade, strategy, armor, and tactics employed; i. e., in any sort of combat engagement, the weapons being roughly equal, the curvature of the blade is about as immaterial as the clothing styles of the fencers...... I will latter explain why.-- 114.153.192.74 ( talk) 23:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
References
Are these the same as tachi (大刀) (not 太刀!)? If yes, it should be mentioned in the article. bamse ( talk) 18:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Tachi(大刀) are pre-Heian or ancient japanese swords" developed from Han Dynasty models. By rule of thumb Tachi(大刀) are straight, literally Chokutō, in Japanese. Ancient Chokutō were strictly worn hanging with their cutting edge facing down. Thus by the way they had to be drawn and their intrinsic design Chokutō are functionally defined as hacking swords.
Tachi (太刀) are Heian and post-Heian swords which, contrary to the Chokutō, developed an outer curvature, away from the cutting edge. Tachi (太刀) swords were worn, not hanging, but rather stashed through the obi (帯) or sash of male kimonos, cutting edge facing always up. This allowed tachi (太刀) swords to deliver a deadly strike from above along with the very first drawing of the blade, unlike the case of the Chokutō. This curvature eventually reached mature development in the classic Katana (刀), the epitome of Japanese swords or Nihonto (日本刀).-- Luxgratia ( talk) 12:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Interestingly there seems to be at least one more spelling for tachi besides 大刀 and 太刀. According to this book, pages 28, 29, there are two spellings for pre-Heian straight swords: 大刀 and another spelling that translates as "horizontal sword" (not sure about the kanji). The author refers to the Todaiji kenmotsucho (register of objects deposited by the emperor at the Shōsōin). 大刀 are swords >60cm and "horizontal swords" are <60cm. bamse ( talk) 15:16, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
"It was created before development of differential tempering in Japanese swordsmithing" Differential tempering was not used in Japanese swordsmithing only differential hardening... -- 47.64.241.165 ( talk) 19:02, 11 May 2014 (UTC)