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Oppose. The Childhood article is about the stages and development. And that is despite the fact that we have a
Child development stages and
Child development article. There are no "adulthood stages" in the same distinct way there are for childhood. If anything, the merge proposal should be other way around -- the Childhood article should be merged into the Child article...just like "Adulthood" redirects to the Adult article. And then some consolidating should happen with regard to the Child development stages and Child development articles.
Flyer22 Frozen (
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01:08, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
The Adolescence article should stay titled "Adolescence". The topic is about a developmental peroid/stage. And the vast majoity of the sources in that article reflect this. Not every title on Wikipedia needs to be consistent in form with other titles in the same field or area.
That would be unnecessary
WP:Content forking. There is nothing that requires us having a separate Teenagers article, and especially not just to cover culture -- a topic that is adequately covered in the Adolescence article. Although adolescence doesn't only include teenagers, it is a time mainly associated with teenagers and teenagers are the age group that the vast majority of sources on adolescence cover.
Flyer22 Frozen (
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03:01, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Go ahead and waste our time proposing it then and see what happens. I'll be sure to advertise the matter well. If you want to go ahead and create the fork, you will be reverted and discussion will ensue that way.
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03:28, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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I am opening this up again because I changed my proposal midway for the above proposal for the other way around. I would like to get a fresh start on whether we should merge Childhood into Child since one editor has retired and would like to get opinions from editors who haven't commented here before. Please let me know your thoughts below.
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23:33, 11 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: Just came by from the Vital Articles list, and honestly, I see it as a toss-up. Just as topics, having them in one place does make sense, but they also work as distinct facets (though there probably should be hatnotes linking them). The main argument I see against a merge is simply
WP:LENGTH. Childhood is at 37,571 bytes while Child is at 22,654; even assuming 10% could be cut as redundant, that leaves ~54200 bytes, which is getting into "consider splitting" territory. I'd say unless the articles are expected to become noticeably more concise, they probably should stay separate. --
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Oppose. The Childhood article is about the stages and development. And that is despite the fact that we have a
Child development stages and
Child development article. There are no "adulthood stages" in the same distinct way there are for childhood. If anything, the merge proposal should be other way around -- the Childhood article should be merged into the Child article...just like "Adulthood" redirects to the Adult article. And then some consolidating should happen with regard to the Child development stages and Child development articles.
Flyer22 Frozen (
talk)
01:08, 28 November 2020 (UTC)reply
The Adolescence article should stay titled "Adolescence". The topic is about a developmental peroid/stage. And the vast majoity of the sources in that article reflect this. Not every title on Wikipedia needs to be consistent in form with other titles in the same field or area.
That would be unnecessary
WP:Content forking. There is nothing that requires us having a separate Teenagers article, and especially not just to cover culture -- a topic that is adequately covered in the Adolescence article. Although adolescence doesn't only include teenagers, it is a time mainly associated with teenagers and teenagers are the age group that the vast majority of sources on adolescence cover.
Flyer22 Frozen (
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03:01, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Go ahead and waste our time proposing it then and see what happens. I'll be sure to advertise the matter well. If you want to go ahead and create the fork, you will be reverted and discussion will ensue that way.
Flyer22 Frozen (
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03:28, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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I am opening this up again because I changed my proposal midway for the above proposal for the other way around. I would like to get a fresh start on whether we should merge Childhood into Child since one editor has retired and would like to get opinions from editors who haven't commented here before. Please let me know your thoughts below.
Interstellarity (
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23:33, 11 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: Just came by from the Vital Articles list, and honestly, I see it as a toss-up. Just as topics, having them in one place does make sense, but they also work as distinct facets (though there probably should be hatnotes linking them). The main argument I see against a merge is simply
WP:LENGTH. Childhood is at 37,571 bytes while Child is at 22,654; even assuming 10% could be cut as redundant, that leaves ~54200 bytes, which is getting into "consider splitting" territory. I'd say unless the articles are expected to become noticeably more concise, they probably should stay separate. --
Zar2gar1 (
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04:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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