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Per this edit, there seems to be an opinion that the MOS:LEADSENTENCE should not include marriage between children within the definition of the topic. Marriage between children is something that occurs frequently in some cultures – for example, in some parts of India. For me, it is difficult to understand why such marriages should not be discussed in this article. The article already includes some discussion of this, with a relevant photo near the top of the article and another photo further down showing marriages between children, so why should it not be included in the opening topic description? If the marriages between children are out of scope, should we remove some of that content from the article? Should there be a hatnote with a link to some other article about marriages between children? I notice that the cited UNICEF source defines child marriage as "any formal marriage or informal union between a child under the age of 18 and an adult or another child." I think that should suffice to justify including marriage between children in the article. — BarrelProof ( talk) 16:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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A lot of quran only ( 100% quranist or just muslim who are rejecting some hadith will oppose you that the 65:4 didnt explicitly talk about child so they will tell you that the quran is actually talking about mature women who didnt menstruate yet and will reject all the tafsir( and even some hadith) since they are just regular "human" that can make mistakes . But I have found a verse to prove child marriage DIRECTLY : 23. Forbidden for you are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship—born of wives you have gone into—but if you have not gone into them, there is no blame on you. And the wives of your genetic sons, and marrying two sisters simultaneously. Except what is past. God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. so here in this verse the quran CLEARLY makes hallal to marry your "stepdaughter which you have in charge " You wouldnt have here in charge if she was a mature women. I think muslims critics should add this verse to their arsenal even muslim quran only or who are rejecting all the bad hadith cant respond to that. This is the first time I use wiki I am not sure If I this is the right place and the right manner to provide you this proof But please think about adding this verse to this very good article that made me questioning my faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:3E9:A260:393F:4B75:9279:4294 ( talk) 12:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
The section on bride kidnapping doesn't demonstrate its relevance to this page. A kidnapped bride could be young or old, but nothing is said about that. It needs a source connecting it to child marriage or it should be removed. Zero talk 10:26, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
I get it. You guys clearly don’t want people to know about other sources, but what Mordechai A. Friedman said in his book. I can’t say he is wrong, but most sources that I read on Jewish marriage contradict what he said. The sources I’ve read said most married at teen years or early to mid or mid or mid to late or early to late. None said before 15. Some point out that Palestinian Jewish women typically married in mid to late teen years while those in Babylon married earlier. Several sources said Palestinian Jewish women married 12-18. 2601:406:5101:F500:8889:EF3D:51CD:601B ( talk) 16:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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Per this edit, there seems to be an opinion that the MOS:LEADSENTENCE should not include marriage between children within the definition of the topic. Marriage between children is something that occurs frequently in some cultures – for example, in some parts of India. For me, it is difficult to understand why such marriages should not be discussed in this article. The article already includes some discussion of this, with a relevant photo near the top of the article and another photo further down showing marriages between children, so why should it not be included in the opening topic description? If the marriages between children are out of scope, should we remove some of that content from the article? Should there be a hatnote with a link to some other article about marriages between children? I notice that the cited UNICEF source defines child marriage as "any formal marriage or informal union between a child under the age of 18 and an adult or another child." I think that should suffice to justify including marriage between children in the article. — BarrelProof ( talk) 16:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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A lot of quran only ( 100% quranist or just muslim who are rejecting some hadith will oppose you that the 65:4 didnt explicitly talk about child so they will tell you that the quran is actually talking about mature women who didnt menstruate yet and will reject all the tafsir( and even some hadith) since they are just regular "human" that can make mistakes . But I have found a verse to prove child marriage DIRECTLY : 23. Forbidden for you are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your paternal aunts, your maternal aunts, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your foster-mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your stepdaughters in your guardianship—born of wives you have gone into—but if you have not gone into them, there is no blame on you. And the wives of your genetic sons, and marrying two sisters simultaneously. Except what is past. God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. so here in this verse the quran CLEARLY makes hallal to marry your "stepdaughter which you have in charge " You wouldnt have here in charge if she was a mature women. I think muslims critics should add this verse to their arsenal even muslim quran only or who are rejecting all the bad hadith cant respond to that. This is the first time I use wiki I am not sure If I this is the right place and the right manner to provide you this proof But please think about adding this verse to this very good article that made me questioning my faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E0A:3E9:A260:393F:4B75:9279:4294 ( talk) 12:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC) |
The section on bride kidnapping doesn't demonstrate its relevance to this page. A kidnapped bride could be young or old, but nothing is said about that. It needs a source connecting it to child marriage or it should be removed. Zero talk 10:26, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
I get it. You guys clearly don’t want people to know about other sources, but what Mordechai A. Friedman said in his book. I can’t say he is wrong, but most sources that I read on Jewish marriage contradict what he said. The sources I’ve read said most married at teen years or early to mid or mid or mid to late or early to late. None said before 15. Some point out that Palestinian Jewish women typically married in mid to late teen years while those in Babylon married earlier. Several sources said Palestinian Jewish women married 12-18. 2601:406:5101:F500:8889:EF3D:51CD:601B ( talk) 16:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC)