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I have to assume that by this "Chelsea takes its name from the Federal house..." the author meant that CC Moore's birthplace was a Federal-style house named Chelsea? I will edit the article. Quill 02:08, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
"The house was the birthplace of Clement Clarke Moore, who is more often credited with "A Visit From St. Nicholas"— which he may have authored— than with the first Greek and Hebrew lexicons printed in the United States, which he certainly authored."
Moore, was born in Newtown (now Elmhurst), NY. His house stood until 1933 in which it was demolished when building the subway. On the site of his former home is Moore Homestead Park. He moved to Chelsea after his marriage to his wife.
I'm not the one who zapped On the Waterfront. But it probably should be. It really jumps off as inaccurate (unless there's a citation). The movie was filmed in Hoboken and is based on Red Hook, Brooklyn (the original title was "The Hook"). There's lots of confusion when folks use the term New York waterfront. The New York waterfront refers to New York Harbor and so can be New Jersey or New York. By 1953 when the film was made, commercial freight in Manhattan was well into its decline (although Brooklyn continued to operate). Here's an article on the movie: http://www.filmsite.org/onth.html
Americasroof 13:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
"The HIV rate in Chelsea is twenty five percent"
Is this correct? That's as high as Sub-Saharan Africa, which is generally considered to be the worst affected area in the world (by a considerable margin) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.156.187 ( talk) 07:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
A simple MAP would help. 192.122.237.11 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Generally, finding usable (i.e. not copyrighted) maps is not easy. Sounds simple, but it ain't. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 21:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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I don't really understand the edit or comment here. The images has good composition, resolution and composition. "Poor" is just a very subjective and random opinion. The quality is higher when most images in the article, compare with for example Cushman Row West 20th.jpg (perspective distortion, overexposed sky), Highline_519_and_HL23.jpg (perspective distortion, tight crop), IAC night jeh.jpg (perspective distortion, overall low quality with strong noise, tight crop) or General Theological Seminary Desmond Tutu Center.jpg (tight crop, perspective distortion, bad wb, overexposed sky). Both the building ( London Terrace) (mentioned in the section) and the street 10th avenue is very relevant for the article.-- ArildV ( talk) 21:08, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
The image adds variety, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE, as it is the only night shot in the article. Photos taken at night are generally of a lower quality, though this particular image is well done and a tripod was obviously used. It should remain in the article. Magnolia677 ( talk) 22:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
@ ArildV, Ɱ, and Magnolia677: See recent updates. Filetime ( talk) 01:00, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
We shouldn't be fiddling around with image sizes, especially as the results one sees on their own screen / browser combinations may not match other users. I also fail to see why we should be including external links to various neighborhood guides, which should either be integrated into the article as references or simply removed.
In terms of the image of London Terrace, I agree that the early evening picture leaves out too much details. The daytime shot provided in the section above would be a better choice.
Discuss. Alansohn ( talk) 22:54, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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Let me preface this by stating that I understand that Manhattan neighborhood boundaries are generally unofficial and somewhat fluid. That said, the generally accepted boundaries of a neighborhood should be stated. If there is a strong general consensus as to a boundary, it should be used.
I take issue with referring to Chelsea's eastern boundary as "either Sixth Avenue or Fifth Avenue." Here are the reasons:
All New York Times Living In Chelsea reports published more recently have set Sixth Avenue as its rough eastern boundary. See below:
I propose referring to Sixth Avenue (not "either Sixth Avenue or Fifth Avenue") as Chelsea's rough eastern boundary.
Precision123 ( talk) 23:00, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I believe Joni Mitchell's song "Chelsea Morning" recorded in 1969 is about waking up in this district on a beautiful spring morning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siglo2 ( talk • contribs) 02:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Much of Chelsea was a part of the French district, where most of the French immigrants lived. 2603:7080:953D:2470:8841:E4E7:7197:2758 ( talk) 19:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
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I have to assume that by this "Chelsea takes its name from the Federal house..." the author meant that CC Moore's birthplace was a Federal-style house named Chelsea? I will edit the article. Quill 02:08, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
"The house was the birthplace of Clement Clarke Moore, who is more often credited with "A Visit From St. Nicholas"— which he may have authored— than with the first Greek and Hebrew lexicons printed in the United States, which he certainly authored."
Moore, was born in Newtown (now Elmhurst), NY. His house stood until 1933 in which it was demolished when building the subway. On the site of his former home is Moore Homestead Park. He moved to Chelsea after his marriage to his wife.
I'm not the one who zapped On the Waterfront. But it probably should be. It really jumps off as inaccurate (unless there's a citation). The movie was filmed in Hoboken and is based on Red Hook, Brooklyn (the original title was "The Hook"). There's lots of confusion when folks use the term New York waterfront. The New York waterfront refers to New York Harbor and so can be New Jersey or New York. By 1953 when the film was made, commercial freight in Manhattan was well into its decline (although Brooklyn continued to operate). Here's an article on the movie: http://www.filmsite.org/onth.html
Americasroof 13:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
"The HIV rate in Chelsea is twenty five percent"
Is this correct? That's as high as Sub-Saharan Africa, which is generally considered to be the worst affected area in the world (by a considerable margin) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.156.187 ( talk) 07:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
A simple MAP would help. 192.122.237.11 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Generally, finding usable (i.e. not copyrighted) maps is not easy. Sounds simple, but it ain't. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 21:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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I don't really understand the edit or comment here. The images has good composition, resolution and composition. "Poor" is just a very subjective and random opinion. The quality is higher when most images in the article, compare with for example Cushman Row West 20th.jpg (perspective distortion, overexposed sky), Highline_519_and_HL23.jpg (perspective distortion, tight crop), IAC night jeh.jpg (perspective distortion, overall low quality with strong noise, tight crop) or General Theological Seminary Desmond Tutu Center.jpg (tight crop, perspective distortion, bad wb, overexposed sky). Both the building ( London Terrace) (mentioned in the section) and the street 10th avenue is very relevant for the article.-- ArildV ( talk) 21:08, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
The image adds variety, per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE, as it is the only night shot in the article. Photos taken at night are generally of a lower quality, though this particular image is well done and a tripod was obviously used. It should remain in the article. Magnolia677 ( talk) 22:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
@ ArildV, Ɱ, and Magnolia677: See recent updates. Filetime ( talk) 01:00, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
We shouldn't be fiddling around with image sizes, especially as the results one sees on their own screen / browser combinations may not match other users. I also fail to see why we should be including external links to various neighborhood guides, which should either be integrated into the article as references or simply removed.
In terms of the image of London Terrace, I agree that the early evening picture leaves out too much details. The daytime shot provided in the section above would be a better choice.
Discuss. Alansohn ( talk) 22:54, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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Let me preface this by stating that I understand that Manhattan neighborhood boundaries are generally unofficial and somewhat fluid. That said, the generally accepted boundaries of a neighborhood should be stated. If there is a strong general consensus as to a boundary, it should be used.
I take issue with referring to Chelsea's eastern boundary as "either Sixth Avenue or Fifth Avenue." Here are the reasons:
All New York Times Living In Chelsea reports published more recently have set Sixth Avenue as its rough eastern boundary. See below:
I propose referring to Sixth Avenue (not "either Sixth Avenue or Fifth Avenue") as Chelsea's rough eastern boundary.
Precision123 ( talk) 23:00, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I believe Joni Mitchell's song "Chelsea Morning" recorded in 1969 is about waking up in this district on a beautiful spring morning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siglo2 ( talk • contribs) 02:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Much of Chelsea was a part of the French district, where most of the French immigrants lived. 2603:7080:953D:2470:8841:E4E7:7197:2758 ( talk) 19:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)