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Ok, what the hell is going on here? This page is basically an attack/exposition on Charlie Rose for some connection about Coca-Cola.
I don't particularly get political about this, but it's obvious from the sourcing (Le Show and FAIR) and tone that this is a politically liberal diatribe about Rose. There's almost no information Rose himself or his work, other than the supposed Coke connection. There's something about an article from the Washington Post, but no source reference to it.
I would appreciate any help in expanding this and making it something other than an attack article on Rose.-- Orporg
not a MENTION?
http://gothamist.com/2009/03/22/book_mob_mistakenly_targeted_talk_s.php 66.105.218.5 ( talk) 02:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
"it's been substantiated that he goes too easy on guests because he agreed not to talk politics with a businessman?"
Regardless of whether or not this page has an anti-Rose bias, the notion that politics should be off-limits in an interview with Roger Ailes is simply poor journalism, no matter who is conducting the interview. Ailes' business strategy cannot be isolated from his politics - any discussion of his business that purposefully avoids politics will be totally superficial.
Can "welcome to the broadcast" be one? Stan weller 08:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
WNET-13's broadcast of Charlie Rose led with a guest host, who said that Charlie Rose was recovering from mitral valve repair surgery. [1] [2] Lent 03:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Should medical history be part of a biographical article? I don't think so but feel free to disagree. I think this entire section should not be part of the article. Otherwise we could start listing other
Also, the entry merely states that Charlie Rose got heart surgery on the way to Syria while the surgeons page actually states that he was on his way to interview the Syrian president. Danieljaeger 00:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it was in a _World Almanac_ that I came across the fact that there was a Senator (from North Carolina, I think) named Charlie Rose. Just now, I used Google to search for "Senator Charlie Rose", and got *one* hit! Funny how a shopkeeper's son can become so famous, while his own namesake and senator is utterly forgotten. Incidentally, Wikipedia really needs articles on George Crile III, who just died recently and was well memorialized on Charlie's show, and who worked with him on 60 Minutes II. Crile's father deserves some treatment, too. His father was the famous surgeon found under "Crile" in Wikipedia. -- D021317c 10:07, 26 May 2006 (EDT)
I have been thinking that Rose has a unique status as journalist: that is he can easily get an audience with presidents, kings, and anyone who wants to matter. I often find Rose's excessive talking (as interviewer, arguably putting words in mouths) irritating, but perhaps it helps make him effective. I don't want to put fluff in the main article, so I ask some questions here: Is Rose unique because American journalistic interviewers occupy a low standard? If Rose retires, can he be replaced? At a time when the powerful seem to control all popular expression, what is the best journalism that can be hoped for? Anthony717 05:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, he is the Second Coming, isn't he? Desperado57 ( talk) 00:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, I do say so. Desperado57 ( talk) 16:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Charlie Rose I think is generally well respected, and I think there should be some praise and/or awards section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.67 ( talk) 19:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
The criticism section is seven years old. Hundreds of shows have been done since then. Is there anything more recent to substantiate the allegations?
Would anyone criticize Charles Kuralt for not asking demanding questions? —Preceding
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Anybody watched his show? He appeared beat up. Anybody know how this happened? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bleach 2982 ( talk • contribs) 04:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Is this incident relevant? Ars Technica wrote about it citing TechCrunch [3]. TechCrunch says Apple got free publicity. Is this even notable enough to be a part of Charlie's article on wikipedia? Kushal 02:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I came across this term used in a an issue of the "Electrical Engineer" (Nov 11 1891). The context pertains to enumeration of the american population in the US census;
"The work of counting all those Charlie Roses might still be going on, but...".
Can anyone enlighten me as to what the colloquialism may mean? It's obviously unrelated to the subject of this page, but, depending on significance, may be worth a disambiguation link. --
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I rev'd the edit where a 3-edit contrib'r
inserted ", originally slated as a vaudeville show," which is farfetched, has the ring of stealth vandalism, & should await verification if true.
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Boys/girls will be boys/girls, you know. Snickerdoodle09 ( talk) 04:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
...is? I have a hunch he's an agnostic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.212.2.86 ( talk) 15:10, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
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This section makes no sense and should be removed if it can't be substantiated.
Jkiang ( talk) 19:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Charlie Rose is shown on Bloomberg, and the trailers make it clear that the interviews take place in Bloomberg offices. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.148.133 ( talk) 11:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I have an opportunity to listen to Charlie Rose speak this afternoon, so I came here looking to see if I might be interested. This article does little more than say "Charlie Rose" is a television journalist. That's terrible! Is he involved in philanthropy? Is he politically active? What does he stand for? All I get instead is brief resume and a list of residences he owns. As uninformative as this article is, you'd think this article was written by the main stream media. Rklawton ( talk) 16:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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The "Early Life" section contains no mention of church attendance or influence, or his parents' religious affiliation (or lack of it), which is highly unusual for that area of the farming south during those years. Aren't both of his wives Jewish? Starhistory22 ( talk) 05:04, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Rose got out of law school in 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam draft and war. How did he manage to avoid military service? This is a factual, historical question, not any sort of attack on the fellow. Being of draft age in a hot war brings anyone who has experienced it to one of the biggest decisions of his life, yet this enormous issue is almost never discussed in articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.152.216.213 ( talk) 01:39, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Should we be putting end dates on the shows he hosts on CBS and PBS? He has not officially been terminated by either network as of yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeb0728 ( talk • contribs) 23:17, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
I have seen Rose credited with winning several Emmy's & other awards not in this article. Emmy's are notable & should be included. — Lentower ( talk) 16:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
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Much of the text of the lead and honors section read as a newspaper rundown of the day's scandal. I have toned down the lead, the details are in the article. The Honors section should have been prose. I have converted it from a bulleted list of what honors he has lost and hasn't yet lost to a neutral prose section that does not speculate on whether he might lose honors which officials have not yet said were in jeopardy. See WP:Ten year test. μηδείς ( talk) 06:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
In 2015, Gawker released a redacted address list of convicted sex predator Jeffrey Epstein (the "little black book"), which contained Rose's name alongside other high-profile individuals.
such as Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump.Rose and Epstein had an amiable relationship in the early 2000s, and Epstein made a number (at least 5) recommendations for open positions at the Charlie Rose show, all of whom were young women. Rose hired three of these women, one of whom told New York: "I was being offered up for abuse".[1][2] [3] [4]
These Epstein allegations which I added to the article (which have been reverted multiple times) seem very much WP:DUE for this article. There is a decent amount of coverage in a number of different (non-tabloid) sources, and covers similar ground to the sexual abuse allegations already included in this article. -- Bangalamania ( talk) 02:16, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Discussion of his ties to Epstein should be moved to the Sexual Misconduct section Lenbrazil ( talk) 01:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
References
The section is pretty small considering 1) his stature before the scandal broke 2) the number of women who have made allegations and 3) the time period (about 20 years). It should be bigger. Unfortunately I don't know enough about it or have enough free time to research and write an expansion. Hopefully some reading this has both or at least one or the other. Lenbrazil ( talk) 01:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
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Ok, what the hell is going on here? This page is basically an attack/exposition on Charlie Rose for some connection about Coca-Cola.
I don't particularly get political about this, but it's obvious from the sourcing (Le Show and FAIR) and tone that this is a politically liberal diatribe about Rose. There's almost no information Rose himself or his work, other than the supposed Coke connection. There's something about an article from the Washington Post, but no source reference to it.
I would appreciate any help in expanding this and making it something other than an attack article on Rose.-- Orporg
not a MENTION?
http://gothamist.com/2009/03/22/book_mob_mistakenly_targeted_talk_s.php 66.105.218.5 ( talk) 02:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
"it's been substantiated that he goes too easy on guests because he agreed not to talk politics with a businessman?"
Regardless of whether or not this page has an anti-Rose bias, the notion that politics should be off-limits in an interview with Roger Ailes is simply poor journalism, no matter who is conducting the interview. Ailes' business strategy cannot be isolated from his politics - any discussion of his business that purposefully avoids politics will be totally superficial.
Can "welcome to the broadcast" be one? Stan weller 08:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
WNET-13's broadcast of Charlie Rose led with a guest host, who said that Charlie Rose was recovering from mitral valve repair surgery. [1] [2] Lent 03:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Should medical history be part of a biographical article? I don't think so but feel free to disagree. I think this entire section should not be part of the article. Otherwise we could start listing other
Also, the entry merely states that Charlie Rose got heart surgery on the way to Syria while the surgeons page actually states that he was on his way to interview the Syrian president. Danieljaeger 00:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I think it was in a _World Almanac_ that I came across the fact that there was a Senator (from North Carolina, I think) named Charlie Rose. Just now, I used Google to search for "Senator Charlie Rose", and got *one* hit! Funny how a shopkeeper's son can become so famous, while his own namesake and senator is utterly forgotten. Incidentally, Wikipedia really needs articles on George Crile III, who just died recently and was well memorialized on Charlie's show, and who worked with him on 60 Minutes II. Crile's father deserves some treatment, too. His father was the famous surgeon found under "Crile" in Wikipedia. -- D021317c 10:07, 26 May 2006 (EDT)
I have been thinking that Rose has a unique status as journalist: that is he can easily get an audience with presidents, kings, and anyone who wants to matter. I often find Rose's excessive talking (as interviewer, arguably putting words in mouths) irritating, but perhaps it helps make him effective. I don't want to put fluff in the main article, so I ask some questions here: Is Rose unique because American journalistic interviewers occupy a low standard? If Rose retires, can he be replaced? At a time when the powerful seem to control all popular expression, what is the best journalism that can be hoped for? Anthony717 05:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, he is the Second Coming, isn't he? Desperado57 ( talk) 00:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Well, I do say so. Desperado57 ( talk) 16:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Charlie Rose I think is generally well respected, and I think there should be some praise and/or awards section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.67 ( talk) 19:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
The criticism section is seven years old. Hundreds of shows have been done since then. Is there anything more recent to substantiate the allegations?
Would anyone criticize Charles Kuralt for not asking demanding questions? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
76.89.192.125 (
talk)
01:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Anybody watched his show? He appeared beat up. Anybody know how this happened? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bleach 2982 ( talk • contribs) 04:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Is this incident relevant? Ars Technica wrote about it citing TechCrunch [3]. TechCrunch says Apple got free publicity. Is this even notable enough to be a part of Charlie's article on wikipedia? Kushal 02:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I came across this term used in a an issue of the "Electrical Engineer" (Nov 11 1891). The context pertains to enumeration of the american population in the US census;
"The work of counting all those Charlie Roses might still be going on, but...".
Can anyone enlighten me as to what the colloquialism may mean? It's obviously unrelated to the subject of this page, but, depending on significance, may be worth a disambiguation link. --
BlueNovember (
talk)
23:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
I rev'd the edit where a 3-edit contrib'r
inserted ", originally slated as a vaudeville show," which is farfetched, has the ring of stealth vandalism, & should await verification if true.
--
Jerzy•
t
22:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Boys/girls will be boys/girls, you know. Snickerdoodle09 ( talk) 04:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
...is? I have a hunch he's an agnostic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.212.2.86 ( talk) 15:10, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
One or more portions of this article duplicated other source(s). The material was copied from: http://www.bloomberg.com/tvradio/tv/crose/bio.html. It was introduced in this series of edits. Infringing material has been removed by the restoration of an earlier version of the article. It must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
This section makes no sense and should be removed if it can't be substantiated.
Jkiang ( talk) 19:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Charlie Rose is shown on Bloomberg, and the trailers make it clear that the interviews take place in Bloomberg offices. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.148.133 ( talk) 11:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I have an opportunity to listen to Charlie Rose speak this afternoon, so I came here looking to see if I might be interested. This article does little more than say "Charlie Rose" is a television journalist. That's terrible! Is he involved in philanthropy? Is he politically active? What does he stand for? All I get instead is brief resume and a list of residences he owns. As uninformative as this article is, you'd think this article was written by the main stream media. Rklawton ( talk) 16:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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The "Early Life" section contains no mention of church attendance or influence, or his parents' religious affiliation (or lack of it), which is highly unusual for that area of the farming south during those years. Aren't both of his wives Jewish? Starhistory22 ( talk) 05:04, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Rose got out of law school in 1968, at the peak of the Vietnam draft and war. How did he manage to avoid military service? This is a factual, historical question, not any sort of attack on the fellow. Being of draft age in a hot war brings anyone who has experienced it to one of the biggest decisions of his life, yet this enormous issue is almost never discussed in articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.152.216.213 ( talk) 01:39, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Should we be putting end dates on the shows he hosts on CBS and PBS? He has not officially been terminated by either network as of yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeb0728 ( talk • contribs) 23:17, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
I have seen Rose credited with winning several Emmy's & other awards not in this article. Emmy's are notable & should be included. — Lentower ( talk) 16:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
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Much of the text of the lead and honors section read as a newspaper rundown of the day's scandal. I have toned down the lead, the details are in the article. The Honors section should have been prose. I have converted it from a bulleted list of what honors he has lost and hasn't yet lost to a neutral prose section that does not speculate on whether he might lose honors which officials have not yet said were in jeopardy. See WP:Ten year test. μηδείς ( talk) 06:07, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
In 2015, Gawker released a redacted address list of convicted sex predator Jeffrey Epstein (the "little black book"), which contained Rose's name alongside other high-profile individuals.
such as Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump.Rose and Epstein had an amiable relationship in the early 2000s, and Epstein made a number (at least 5) recommendations for open positions at the Charlie Rose show, all of whom were young women. Rose hired three of these women, one of whom told New York: "I was being offered up for abuse".[1][2] [3] [4]
These Epstein allegations which I added to the article (which have been reverted multiple times) seem very much WP:DUE for this article. There is a decent amount of coverage in a number of different (non-tabloid) sources, and covers similar ground to the sexual abuse allegations already included in this article. -- Bangalamania ( talk) 02:16, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Discussion of his ties to Epstein should be moved to the Sexual Misconduct section Lenbrazil ( talk) 01:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
References
The section is pretty small considering 1) his stature before the scandal broke 2) the number of women who have made allegations and 3) the time period (about 20 years). It should be bigger. Unfortunately I don't know enough about it or have enough free time to research and write an expansion. Hopefully some reading this has both or at least one or the other. Lenbrazil ( talk) 01:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)