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Please see Talk:Chabad-Lubavitch related controversies#Multiple merge proposal for a proposed "multiple merge" of the page Chabad-Lubavitch related controversies to Chabad and other pages. I.am.a.qwerty ( talk) 23:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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BTW, concerning the "estimates" given here, I'll quote Sue Fishkoff, The Rebbe's Army: Inside the World of Chabad-Lubavitch p. 13: Many reporters use the figure of 200,000 Lubavitchers worldwide, but that's little more than a guesstimate. AddMore-III ( talk) 04:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
footnote 2 does not say Chabad is "one of the largest", it says it is the largest. -- 134.153.2.217 ( talk) 15:46, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Debresser, I don't understand, there has to be a consensus for my version but not yours? You added information that's not sourced at all, it's Posner's opinion. While he has the full right to think that way, for you to put it as "objective fact" is disingenuous.
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Recently the movie Code of Silence was removed from the "Film and Television" section of "Chabad in the arts" by two editors. This was done because the editors felt that the movie -- which is about a case of sexual abuse in a Chabad-Lubavitch community in Australia, and the backlash the victim and their family faced from that community -- was not "about Chabad" but simply about people who happened to be Chabad. I re-added the movie because I felt it was as much about Chabad as many of the entries already on the list. One of the editors that removed Code of Silence agreed with me on this. Therefore, if we want to keep a section on "Chabad in the arts", I think the only consistent solutions are to remove all the works that are not "about Chabad" in the sense that they primarily concern the religion and the practice of it, or to add back Code of Silence.
I am generally in favor of inclusion, so I would like the more tangentially related works already on the list to stay, along with Code of Silence. This also seems to be the general case on Wikipedia, at least with categories. For example, the Category: Films about Catholicism includes e.g. Daredevil and Doubt, and the Category: Films about Mormonism includes e.g. Latter Days and New York Doll. Of course, neither the article Catholicism or Mormonism contain any mention of their respective subjects "in the arts" at all. So perhaps another resolution could be to remove the entire section of "Chabad in the arts" and create a list or category of works about Chabad, with the already existing Category: Films about Chabad as a subcategory. I feel this would make relevant information less accessible, so again, my preferred solution would be to add Code of Silence back as it were. If the consensus is to go for the middle ground of keeping only the works that are more strictly "about Chabad", we should discuss which these would be.
I am not entirely sure how this is process usually works, but I would appreciate comments, and let's reach a good consensus! Knuthove ( talk) 23:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Content FORK I.am.a.qwerty ( talk) 10:38, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
I came here hoping to get some clarity on the degree to which Chabad has been institutionally unified or not in the years since the death of Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The article hints that it hasn't been, but doesn't really say much. I believe this is something that belongs in the article, and I would presume that there has been enough written about the topic that there ought to be plenty that is citable. - Jmabel | Talk 00:54, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
The seven hugely overweight expanded biographies front-loading the article need slashing. Iskandar323 ( talk) 08:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Chassidim - the Joyful path to G-d : A 1966 documentary of Chabad Chassidim in Kfar Chabad, Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqzo_HnPUc Chamyv ( talk) 06:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please see Talk:Chabad-Lubavitch related controversies#Multiple merge proposal for a proposed "multiple merge" of the page Chabad-Lubavitch related controversies to Chabad and other pages. I.am.a.qwerty ( talk) 23:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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BTW, concerning the "estimates" given here, I'll quote Sue Fishkoff, The Rebbe's Army: Inside the World of Chabad-Lubavitch p. 13: Many reporters use the figure of 200,000 Lubavitchers worldwide, but that's little more than a guesstimate. AddMore-III ( talk) 04:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
footnote 2 does not say Chabad is "one of the largest", it says it is the largest. -- 134.153.2.217 ( talk) 15:46, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
Debresser, I don't understand, there has to be a consensus for my version but not yours? You added information that's not sourced at all, it's Posner's opinion. While he has the full right to think that way, for you to put it as "objective fact" is disingenuous.
I'm new to this, so I'm not sure if I'm posting my message to you the right way and if I'm following all the complicated rules here. User:User1wik1 11:34, 19 November 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by User1wiki ( talk • contribs)
User1wiki 6:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
User1wiki 10:52, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Recently the movie Code of Silence was removed from the "Film and Television" section of "Chabad in the arts" by two editors. This was done because the editors felt that the movie -- which is about a case of sexual abuse in a Chabad-Lubavitch community in Australia, and the backlash the victim and their family faced from that community -- was not "about Chabad" but simply about people who happened to be Chabad. I re-added the movie because I felt it was as much about Chabad as many of the entries already on the list. One of the editors that removed Code of Silence agreed with me on this. Therefore, if we want to keep a section on "Chabad in the arts", I think the only consistent solutions are to remove all the works that are not "about Chabad" in the sense that they primarily concern the religion and the practice of it, or to add back Code of Silence.
I am generally in favor of inclusion, so I would like the more tangentially related works already on the list to stay, along with Code of Silence. This also seems to be the general case on Wikipedia, at least with categories. For example, the Category: Films about Catholicism includes e.g. Daredevil and Doubt, and the Category: Films about Mormonism includes e.g. Latter Days and New York Doll. Of course, neither the article Catholicism or Mormonism contain any mention of their respective subjects "in the arts" at all. So perhaps another resolution could be to remove the entire section of "Chabad in the arts" and create a list or category of works about Chabad, with the already existing Category: Films about Chabad as a subcategory. I feel this would make relevant information less accessible, so again, my preferred solution would be to add Code of Silence back as it were. If the consensus is to go for the middle ground of keeping only the works that are more strictly "about Chabad", we should discuss which these would be.
I am not entirely sure how this is process usually works, but I would appreciate comments, and let's reach a good consensus! Knuthove ( talk) 23:41, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
Content FORK I.am.a.qwerty ( talk) 10:38, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
I came here hoping to get some clarity on the degree to which Chabad has been institutionally unified or not in the years since the death of Menachem Mendel Schneerson. The article hints that it hasn't been, but doesn't really say much. I believe this is something that belongs in the article, and I would presume that there has been enough written about the topic that there ought to be plenty that is citable. - Jmabel | Talk 00:54, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
The seven hugely overweight expanded biographies front-loading the article need slashing. Iskandar323 ( talk) 08:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Chassidim - the Joyful path to G-d : A 1966 documentary of Chabad Chassidim in Kfar Chabad, Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqzo_HnPUc Chamyv ( talk) 06:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)