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This article has become a link farm, with proprietors of individual cat cafés adding links to their establishments with no evidence of notability for those establishments. I propose to delete all material following the "History" section (i.e. all location-specific information listing individual cafés). Any objections? WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 18:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted recent additions of individual cat cafés in order to avoid reverting this article to a link farm. Unless a particular café is individually notable (i.e. would likely stand as a standalone Wikipedia article), it doesn't really merit mention in this article. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 20:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
This is turning into a link farm again. Individual cat cafes are adding themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.58.67.113 ( talk) 23:58, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
The continent headings are not encyclopedic and need to be removed. Unless someone can demonstrate why a list of most cat cafés around the world belongs in an encyclopedia I will remove them shortly. UKWikiGuy ( talk) 21:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Any sentence about a cafe that's cited by the cafe's website should be deleted. However, edits like this are not constructive; in that edit, two sentences containing wikilinks to reliably sourced Wikipedia articles on a specific cat cafes were deleted. Those, and many other cafes in that edit, are clearly notable enough to merit coverage in this article based upon the sources that cover them. Consequently, I've re-added the set of cafes from that edit that were deleted despite being cited by a WP:RS. In other sections of this article, there's still a number of sentences about cafes which lack a citation to a reliable source though. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 07:53, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
The introductory "History" paragraph seems a little confusing in that it presents 2 different cat cafes in Japan as being the first (in Japan), one in 2004, and one in 2005... -- EzraJones ( talk) 13:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi guys, I wanted to contribute a bit of my time with more details about the legal background of cat cafes on a global scale. Are there any organizations which define a "code of conduct" for operating a cat cafe? As I understand most of the cafes have to respect the normal hygiene standards of the respective country and depending on the place need a license from a agriculture/animal licensing body. So there are basically two things, which are mixed in the operation of a cat cafe:
Happy to explore more! -- huggi - never stop exploring ( talk) 00:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Could be anywhere. Maybe find a more relevant picture? 86.138.45.7 ( talk) 15:56, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
This article is increasingly growing a list of (confirmable but non-notable) cat cafés. I'm not sure any cat café anywhere is notable, but a list of them is potentially within WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE bounds. Maybe better formatted as an actual list, under a "List of" heading (and redirected to from List of cat cafés. However, the direct pasting-in of links to these places need to get cleaned up, as ref citations. Its permissible, perhaps, as WP:ABOUTSELF primary sourcing, despite potential SEO WP:SPAM concerns. I really don't spend any time balancing spam vs. completion of coverage concerns, so others should probably weigh in on this. I just know what what we have right this moment is a mess and isn't compliant with WP:EL, at very least. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
"Oakland's Cat Town has the distinct honor of being the first cat cafe to open its doors to customers, signing a lease in July 2014 and opening just months later in October.[98]"
"distinct honor" sounds like marketing language, and is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Even if it might be true, it's not supported by the article cited. I've changed the sentence to use neutral language. Omc ( talk) 20:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Dear Ajf773,
How come you qualified my entry yesterday as "promotional" (in adddition to other defaults you mention)? Believe me it wasn't. I (76) was in contact with my granddaughter (21) in the Netherlands and she told me about a cat café she goes to; as she doesn't speak German and I don't speak Dutch, we converse/write in English. So I checked Wikipedia in English and found Switzerland missing in the list, which prompted me to search for cat cafés in my country. And that was the only one I found. I am aware that other cat cafés in other countries (and some planned in Switzerland, but that didn't materialize) have it in their concepts to find permanent homes for homeless cats, and this one doesn't. But in the introductory text of the article this isn't mentioned as a request. And you know, cat cafés can no doubt be a very good thing for cats needing a home, but they can also serve humans who may be feeling lonely or just badly missing the possibility to keep a pet.
Please, Ajf773, let me know what (by way of information) it would take to make you or other Wikipedians refrain from simply deleting my input. I explicitly kept it short and prim, hoping to enlarge on it, if (IF!) I could find suitable information (online and/or by visiting the place, when the opportunity arises next time). I mean : It only said that, at long last, a cat café does now exist in Switzerland (which is a fact and can surely not be interpreted as promotional). You also write "unsourced"... but that's just the point: I explicitly didn't give a link neither to the articles in the press, which could be qualified as promotional, nor to the café's website (of which the same could be said). So what would you suggest as a valid source? - PS: I don't quite know what you mean by "non-notable content"... I hope I have explained now why my information was so short and barren - it was precisely to avoid the reproach of undue partiality (=promotional intentions).
Best thanks in advance for your reply ! Mpa swiss ( talk) 10:18, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
with the info above about link farming and notability in mind, including the decision to allow content backed up by Wikipedia:RS to remain, I still think the discussion of individual cat cafés in the History section should be consolidated. I know I’m part of the problem as I just added info about individual cat cafés in Austin, but 1) the controversy surrounding the Blue Cat Café was a fairly well-covered story in local and state outlets for years and 2) I’m happy to remove my edits to conform with a more streamlined approach to this section Laurenschneider210 ( talk) 12:58, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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This article has become a link farm, with proprietors of individual cat cafés adding links to their establishments with no evidence of notability for those establishments. I propose to delete all material following the "History" section (i.e. all location-specific information listing individual cafés). Any objections? WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 18:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted recent additions of individual cat cafés in order to avoid reverting this article to a link farm. Unless a particular café is individually notable (i.e. would likely stand as a standalone Wikipedia article), it doesn't really merit mention in this article. WikiDan61 ChatMe! ReadMe!! 20:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
This is turning into a link farm again. Individual cat cafes are adding themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.58.67.113 ( talk) 23:58, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
The continent headings are not encyclopedic and need to be removed. Unless someone can demonstrate why a list of most cat cafés around the world belongs in an encyclopedia I will remove them shortly. UKWikiGuy ( talk) 21:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Any sentence about a cafe that's cited by the cafe's website should be deleted. However, edits like this are not constructive; in that edit, two sentences containing wikilinks to reliably sourced Wikipedia articles on a specific cat cafes were deleted. Those, and many other cafes in that edit, are clearly notable enough to merit coverage in this article based upon the sources that cover them. Consequently, I've re-added the set of cafes from that edit that were deleted despite being cited by a WP:RS. In other sections of this article, there's still a number of sentences about cafes which lack a citation to a reliable source though. Seppi333 ( Insert 2¢) 07:53, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
The introductory "History" paragraph seems a little confusing in that it presents 2 different cat cafes in Japan as being the first (in Japan), one in 2004, and one in 2005... -- EzraJones ( talk) 13:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi guys, I wanted to contribute a bit of my time with more details about the legal background of cat cafes on a global scale. Are there any organizations which define a "code of conduct" for operating a cat cafe? As I understand most of the cafes have to respect the normal hygiene standards of the respective country and depending on the place need a license from a agriculture/animal licensing body. So there are basically two things, which are mixed in the operation of a cat cafe:
Happy to explore more! -- huggi - never stop exploring ( talk) 00:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Could be anywhere. Maybe find a more relevant picture? 86.138.45.7 ( talk) 15:56, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
This article is increasingly growing a list of (confirmable but non-notable) cat cafés. I'm not sure any cat café anywhere is notable, but a list of them is potentially within WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE bounds. Maybe better formatted as an actual list, under a "List of" heading (and redirected to from List of cat cafés. However, the direct pasting-in of links to these places need to get cleaned up, as ref citations. Its permissible, perhaps, as WP:ABOUTSELF primary sourcing, despite potential SEO WP:SPAM concerns. I really don't spend any time balancing spam vs. completion of coverage concerns, so others should probably weigh in on this. I just know what what we have right this moment is a mess and isn't compliant with WP:EL, at very least. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
"Oakland's Cat Town has the distinct honor of being the first cat cafe to open its doors to customers, signing a lease in July 2014 and opening just months later in October.[98]"
"distinct honor" sounds like marketing language, and is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Even if it might be true, it's not supported by the article cited. I've changed the sentence to use neutral language. Omc ( talk) 20:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Dear Ajf773,
How come you qualified my entry yesterday as "promotional" (in adddition to other defaults you mention)? Believe me it wasn't. I (76) was in contact with my granddaughter (21) in the Netherlands and she told me about a cat café she goes to; as she doesn't speak German and I don't speak Dutch, we converse/write in English. So I checked Wikipedia in English and found Switzerland missing in the list, which prompted me to search for cat cafés in my country. And that was the only one I found. I am aware that other cat cafés in other countries (and some planned in Switzerland, but that didn't materialize) have it in their concepts to find permanent homes for homeless cats, and this one doesn't. But in the introductory text of the article this isn't mentioned as a request. And you know, cat cafés can no doubt be a very good thing for cats needing a home, but they can also serve humans who may be feeling lonely or just badly missing the possibility to keep a pet.
Please, Ajf773, let me know what (by way of information) it would take to make you or other Wikipedians refrain from simply deleting my input. I explicitly kept it short and prim, hoping to enlarge on it, if (IF!) I could find suitable information (online and/or by visiting the place, when the opportunity arises next time). I mean : It only said that, at long last, a cat café does now exist in Switzerland (which is a fact and can surely not be interpreted as promotional). You also write "unsourced"... but that's just the point: I explicitly didn't give a link neither to the articles in the press, which could be qualified as promotional, nor to the café's website (of which the same could be said). So what would you suggest as a valid source? - PS: I don't quite know what you mean by "non-notable content"... I hope I have explained now why my information was so short and barren - it was precisely to avoid the reproach of undue partiality (=promotional intentions).
Best thanks in advance for your reply ! Mpa swiss ( talk) 10:18, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
with the info above about link farming and notability in mind, including the decision to allow content backed up by Wikipedia:RS to remain, I still think the discussion of individual cat cafés in the History section should be consolidated. I know I’m part of the problem as I just added info about individual cat cafés in Austin, but 1) the controversy surrounding the Blue Cat Café was a fairly well-covered story in local and state outlets for years and 2) I’m happy to remove my edits to conform with a more streamlined approach to this section Laurenschneider210 ( talk) 12:58, 13 September 2023 (UTC)