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the page to 2010 Castelldefels train/rail accident. It gives more description that the accident is not a stampede or road crash. Lihaas ( talk) 22:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
So... why does this get on the Main Page? Thirteen people getting hit by a train isn't exactly earth-shattering news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.168.209 ( talk) 04:36, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Seems very not worthy of a wikipedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.163.117 ( talk) 11:46, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Causes of the accident are totaly clear, and number of victims was defenetly & officialy lowerd to 12. Please read your own sources, they are quite clear, thy-- 83.35.68.183 ( talk) 18:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Twice now I've had to change the sentence "a major celebration in Catalonia as in other European countries" to "a major celebration in Spain as in other European countries".
The first sentence does not make sense as Catalonia is not a country, but an autonomous region of Spain. As the predominant religion in Spain is Roman Catholic, it is reasonable to assume that St John's Day is celebrated countrywide. Mjroots ( talk) 05:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
St. John's Day is celebrated in many places in the Canary Islands, too, as in many other places in Spain, so I do agree that it should read "a major celebration in Spain" and not "in Catalonia". Besides, Catalonia isn't indeed a country, but an Autonomous Community in Spain, so...
Joan Saura is the Minister of Home Affairs, Institutional Relations and Participation, not the Minister of Interior.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.24.198.213 ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
On the ain page it states 12 people were killed, but on this article, it states 13, is this a mistake? Ip user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.110.28.132 ( talk) 10:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
THank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.110.28.132 ( talk) 11:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm starting to think we need to move this article to a new name. The current title "Castelldefels train accident" implies that something extraordinary malfunctioned to cause an accident involving a train. As of today's date, it appears that this is more accurately described as an incident, than an accident, because the people who were killed or injured were knowingly crossing active tracks which could only be accessed by climbing or jumping down into the recessed area of tracks below the passenger platform of a station. All indications are that this group of people took this action because they were impatient and did not want to wait for the crowd in front of them to exit the station. Deliberately placing yourself on an active set of tracks located below a platform inside a station and getting killed by a train is not an accident. It is a tragedy, yes, but an easily avoidable tragedy that had nothing to do with the operations of the station or train. To that end, I propose we move the article to 2010 Castelldefels Station tragedy. Hiberniantears ( talk) 17:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Done
Physchim62
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23:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Should this article have the current event tag? Nowyouseeme | wanna chat? 17:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there a good explanation why only people from South America (and one Romanian) were killed? -- Stone ( talk) 06:15, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The reference (www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/24/spain-train-teenagers-killed, currently #9) does not actually confirm this claim. By the article history (on Guardian's site) it has been modified at least once, so it is possible the part about the rescue workers' difficulties was there before.
But it does not now. CapnZapp ( talk) 22:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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the page to 2010 Castelldefels train/rail accident. It gives more description that the accident is not a stampede or road crash. Lihaas ( talk) 22:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
So... why does this get on the Main Page? Thirteen people getting hit by a train isn't exactly earth-shattering news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.168.209 ( talk) 04:36, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Seems very not worthy of a wikipedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.163.117 ( talk) 11:46, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Causes of the accident are totaly clear, and number of victims was defenetly & officialy lowerd to 12. Please read your own sources, they are quite clear, thy-- 83.35.68.183 ( talk) 18:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Twice now I've had to change the sentence "a major celebration in Catalonia as in other European countries" to "a major celebration in Spain as in other European countries".
The first sentence does not make sense as Catalonia is not a country, but an autonomous region of Spain. As the predominant religion in Spain is Roman Catholic, it is reasonable to assume that St John's Day is celebrated countrywide. Mjroots ( talk) 05:39, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
St. John's Day is celebrated in many places in the Canary Islands, too, as in many other places in Spain, so I do agree that it should read "a major celebration in Spain" and not "in Catalonia". Besides, Catalonia isn't indeed a country, but an Autonomous Community in Spain, so...
Joan Saura is the Minister of Home Affairs, Institutional Relations and Participation, not the Minister of Interior.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.24.198.213 ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
On the ain page it states 12 people were killed, but on this article, it states 13, is this a mistake? Ip user —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.110.28.132 ( talk) 10:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
THank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.110.28.132 ( talk) 11:11, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm starting to think we need to move this article to a new name. The current title "Castelldefels train accident" implies that something extraordinary malfunctioned to cause an accident involving a train. As of today's date, it appears that this is more accurately described as an incident, than an accident, because the people who were killed or injured were knowingly crossing active tracks which could only be accessed by climbing or jumping down into the recessed area of tracks below the passenger platform of a station. All indications are that this group of people took this action because they were impatient and did not want to wait for the crowd in front of them to exit the station. Deliberately placing yourself on an active set of tracks located below a platform inside a station and getting killed by a train is not an accident. It is a tragedy, yes, but an easily avoidable tragedy that had nothing to do with the operations of the station or train. To that end, I propose we move the article to 2010 Castelldefels Station tragedy. Hiberniantears ( talk) 17:38, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Done
Physchim62
(talk)
23:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Should this article have the current event tag? Nowyouseeme | wanna chat? 17:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Is there a good explanation why only people from South America (and one Romanian) were killed? -- Stone ( talk) 06:15, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The reference (www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/24/spain-train-teenagers-killed, currently #9) does not actually confirm this claim. By the article history (on Guardian's site) it has been modified at least once, so it is possible the part about the rescue workers' difficulties was there before.
But it does not now. CapnZapp ( talk) 22:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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