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![]() | On 5 May 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from Carboniferous limestone to Carboniferous Limestone. The result of the discussion was page moved. |
Carboniferous limestone is not a "type of limestone" -- the word as applied to the cited location refers to the age of the rock, Carboniferous, not its composition. Geologyguy 17:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The article as it currently stands is still somewhat Yorkshire-centric. The Dales provide a classic karstic landscape but there's much more to the Carb Lime than the Dales - a fact which the article doesn't yet do full justice to. I may get around to providing more balance unless someone beats me to it. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 06:13, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I intend to ask for this article to be renamed as 'Carboniferous Limestone' ie upper case 'C' and 'L' so as to bring it into line with other proper names for rock units such as the ' Old Red Sandstone' (and not the 'Old red sandstone'). The content of the article clearly relates not to 'Carboniferous limestone' ie any carbonate rock dating from the Carboniferous Period from anywhere in the world but to the rocks of the 'Carboniferous Limestone Supergroup' across Great Britain as defined by the British Geological Survey. We are thus talking about The Carboniferous Limestone not simply any old Carboniferous limestone(s). Discussion please. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 05:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. The specific nature of this carboniferous limestone (and its capitalization in about half of cited sources) indicate that capitalization is desirable. Mini apolis 14:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Carboniferous limestone → Carboniferous Limestone – This article is not simply about limestone of Carboniferous age - such an article would be of limited merit. Rather it is about the specific rock unit long recognised in Britain which is now formally accorded the status of supergroup [1]. As such it constitutes a proper name - an alternative (and more formal) title would be Carboniferous Limestone Supergroup but that would be cumbersome for the wider WP readership and mention of that name is best made within the body text of the article, as with the older name 'CL Series' Relisted. BDD ( talk) 18:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC) Geopersona ( talk) 10:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
For the record, the close rationale "The specific nature of this carboniferous limestone (and its capitalization in about half of cited sources) indicate that capitalization is desirable" does not support the move decision. The guidelines at MOS:CAPS are clear:
Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization. Most capitalization is for proper names or for acronyms. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is a proper name; words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in sources are treated as proper names and capitalized in Wikipedia.
The inconsistent capitalization in sources suggests that this is NOT a proper name. WP prefers to avoid unnecessary capitalization. Many topics have a "specific nature" without being proper names, and many topics are capitalized within special interest communities without being capitalized in WP (see WP:SSF). Dicklyon ( talk) 15:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
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I think the article would benefit from some better representative images on a macro- and micro- scale ie landscape and perhaps fossils - borings by Jurassic organisms isn't so relevant as it might be - it tells us little about Carboniferous Limestone. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 16:30, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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![]() | On 5 May 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from Carboniferous limestone to Carboniferous Limestone. The result of the discussion was page moved. |
Carboniferous limestone is not a "type of limestone" -- the word as applied to the cited location refers to the age of the rock, Carboniferous, not its composition. Geologyguy 17:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The article as it currently stands is still somewhat Yorkshire-centric. The Dales provide a classic karstic landscape but there's much more to the Carb Lime than the Dales - a fact which the article doesn't yet do full justice to. I may get around to providing more balance unless someone beats me to it. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 06:13, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
I intend to ask for this article to be renamed as 'Carboniferous Limestone' ie upper case 'C' and 'L' so as to bring it into line with other proper names for rock units such as the ' Old Red Sandstone' (and not the 'Old red sandstone'). The content of the article clearly relates not to 'Carboniferous limestone' ie any carbonate rock dating from the Carboniferous Period from anywhere in the world but to the rocks of the 'Carboniferous Limestone Supergroup' across Great Britain as defined by the British Geological Survey. We are thus talking about The Carboniferous Limestone not simply any old Carboniferous limestone(s). Discussion please. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 05:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. The specific nature of this carboniferous limestone (and its capitalization in about half of cited sources) indicate that capitalization is desirable. Mini apolis 14:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Carboniferous limestone → Carboniferous Limestone – This article is not simply about limestone of Carboniferous age - such an article would be of limited merit. Rather it is about the specific rock unit long recognised in Britain which is now formally accorded the status of supergroup [1]. As such it constitutes a proper name - an alternative (and more formal) title would be Carboniferous Limestone Supergroup but that would be cumbersome for the wider WP readership and mention of that name is best made within the body text of the article, as with the older name 'CL Series' Relisted. BDD ( talk) 18:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC) Geopersona ( talk) 10:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
For the record, the close rationale "The specific nature of this carboniferous limestone (and its capitalization in about half of cited sources) indicate that capitalization is desirable" does not support the move decision. The guidelines at MOS:CAPS are clear:
Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization. Most capitalization is for proper names or for acronyms. Wikipedia relies on sources to determine what is a proper name; words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in sources are treated as proper names and capitalized in Wikipedia.
The inconsistent capitalization in sources suggests that this is NOT a proper name. WP prefers to avoid unnecessary capitalization. Many topics have a "specific nature" without being proper names, and many topics are capitalized within special interest communities without being capitalized in WP (see WP:SSF). Dicklyon ( talk) 15:53, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
References
I think the article would benefit from some better representative images on a macro- and micro- scale ie landscape and perhaps fossils - borings by Jurassic organisms isn't so relevant as it might be - it tells us little about Carboniferous Limestone. cheers Geopersona ( talk) 16:30, 4 January 2015 (UTC)