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The article says that the area of Cape Cod is 1,033 km². But the article on Barnstable County, Massachusetts says that its land area is 1,024 km². How can this be, when all of Cape Cod is part of Barnstable County? Where did those extra 9 km² come from? -- AJD 23:56, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Hello all- Not a terribly important point, but you may want to take a look at the definitions of peninsulaand cape. - Eric (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
All of Bourne, not just the southern 3/4, has always been part of Cape Cod, well before the canal was created, although some locals, I guess, wrongly believe it starts after you cross the canal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.221.32.10 ( talk) 17:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
One cannot deny P-town's gay and lesbian tourist attractions in addition to the whale watching that takes place. I added a blurb covering that. Colby Peterson 16:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Why are there two very similar sattelite images of Cape Cod on the page? To the untutored eye, at least, there doesn't seem to be any significant difference between them to justify them both. Just wondering if someone could explain it to me. Billy Shears 22:04, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
External linking wars in this article, particularly among those promoting particular Cape Cod travel and information portals and personal sites, are growing extremely tiresome. There are so many such sites (e.g. capecod.com, capecodtravel.com, ecape.com, capecodtoday.com, capelinks.com etc. etc. etc.) that linking to any particular one is prohibitive.
From the guidelines on Wikipedia:External links:
Occasionally acceptable links [...] Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open). If deemed unnecessary, or if no good directory listing exists, one should not be included. (emphasis added)
The regional Chamber site is the least volatile/advertising-sensitive of these options, and adequate in providing the directory feature. If there is consensus that the Chamber site itself is too controversial or divisive, that too could be eliminated. It is not Wikipedia's role to provide commercial links, even if they are under the guise of "directory assistance." This article should be about the Cape itself, not which advertiser has been here most recently.
CapeCodEph 21:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Depite this request for comments, the links are back, and I fear this is going to turn into an editing war, with links being removed on a daily basis without much discussion to support (or deny) the edits. There is also a dearth of interest in the discussion, so I'm going to solicit other editors' opinions for policy input. CapeCodEph 05:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
The two sections "History" and "Geography" seem to have been lopped off earlier today by a user with only an IP address. SInce there is no explanation, and these are valid sections, I reinstated the immediately previous edit. Perhaps this was a mistake, but it was done in two edits, so I don't know. Tvoz 19:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is Mashpee, Massachusetts highlighted in the image of Cape Cod at the top of the article? FEastman 00:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
As long as there has been a Cape Cod Cannel, there has been a debate over what is Cape Cod and what is not. By definition, a man-made structure can not determine or redefine the physical characteristics of a cape of any kind. One needs to apply a more educated analysis of the facts instead of utilizing personal opinion, arbitrary colloquialisms and the like to truly define where Cape Cod’s boarders lie.
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a “Cape” is defined as a, “headland or promontory” (ORIGIN Old French cap, from Latin caput ‘head’). A cape is not to be confused with the word “Peninsula” which is defined as, “a long, narrow piece of land projecting out into a sea or lake”. Hence, a cape may include a peninsula, as “Cape” Cod does, but a peninsula is not a qualifier nor a requisite for a piece of land to be defined a cape.
In the case of Cape Cod, we not only have a distinctive headland that starts well west of the man-made Cape Cod Canal, we have the assistance of geology to define its location. Cape Cod is mainly composed of a sand base as a result of glacial formation (see Geology section for more detail). The geological differences between Cape Cod and other Southeastern Massachusetts communities are stark. Vegetation is a testament to this difference. Pitch Pine, Oak and other species of flora and fauna thrive on the Cape’s sandy promontory and differ greatly from the mainland’s plant life.
As a result of these facts, no encyclopedic definition or discussion of Cape Cod can be complete without including all of the Cape Cod headland and not simply the portion that is encapsulated by a convenient, man-made demarcation line. It is beyond dispute that the towns of Plymouth and Wareham are factually part of Cape Cod. Therefore, all discussion on Cape Cod as a whole in Wikipedia must include mention of these towns. To remove them from the definition and explanation of what and where Cape Cod is, as if they were some foreign world with no attachment, is baseless and clearly founded in unsupported opinion and conjecture.
It is therefore recommended that any edits to this article that fail to recognize all of Cape Cod by including the geographic region from Provincetown to Plymouth and Chatham to Wareham, be immediately struck and corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leftshore ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, for starters, the first line on the article reads, “This article is about the geographic landform. For other uses, see Cape Cod (disambiguation)” and not “This article is about where many people 'feel' Cape Cod is”. So yes, for the record, this article is all about geographic landform and issues that relate to it.
Secondly, the idea that the name “Cape Cod” is a misnomer and had people really known what they were doing when they named it, they would have been called “Peninsula Cod” is absurd. To say “What Cape Cod is is determined by what the people who use the name "Cape Cod" mean by it” is like saying that because a consensus of people feel 2+2 is 8, it’s now right.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a private web blog. While it is open to all to edit, it is not immune from the truth. Otherwise, it has no value as a resource. It should be the goal of every editor to seek the actual truth as dictated by fact, even when they would much rather cling to the warm fuzzy ideas of their past understandings.
I am using the Oxford English Dictionary and God’s geography to determine the location of Cape Cod. Unfortunately, your argument is still based in opinion and conjecture and denies the simple facts. Leftshore 15:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that the geography currently offered in this article covers Human geography quite nicely, but based on all of the facts (not opinion) that I have set forth above, it fails miserably from the stand point of Physical geography. The only change I am proposing now is to have this article title note “This article is about the Human geography of Cape Cod. For other uses, see Cape Cod (disambiguation)” and a new article with the title note, “This article is about the Physical geography of Cape Cod. For other uses, see Cape Cod (disambiguation).”
The beauty of using the proper geographic terms is that we have a standardized test as to what is geographic fact and what has become commonly accepted. That would give us an outside compass on what information goes into each article and alleviate much of the debate on where Cape Cod actually is. Leftshore 17:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
As someone who lives on the Cape, I might offer my own opinion -- the Cape is, de facto, Barnstable County, including the 1/3 of the town of Bourne (and a small chunk of Sandwich) on the north side of the canal and possibly, depending on who you talk to, part of Wareham. While a large chunk of Plymouth might be "part of the Cape" geologically and in terms of local biology, Plymouth has a very distinct identity from Cape Cod, so much so that even people from Massachusetts might be surprised to learn that the Cape was originally part of the Plymouth colony. You certainly don't get too many people who live on this side of the canal claiming that Wareham and Plymouth are part of the Cape, and in fact a trip up route 3 indicates that the scrub pine forest characteristic of Cape life tends to peter out well before the Plymouth Center exits. Haikupoet 00:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Cape Cod is an island according to the Cape Cod Commission:
As submitted in a report "Susceptibility to Natural Disaster: Cape Cod encompasses 412.42 square miles (approximately 236,930 acres) and is surrounded by the waters of the Cape Cod Canal, Cape Cod Bay, Atlantic Ocean, Nantucket Sound, and Vineyard Sound. Effectively, Cape Cod is an island connected to the mainland only by two four-lane bridges and a seldom used train bridge."
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http://www.capecodcommission.org/
Is there reason to omit this data in favor of this current sentence in the article?: "It is still identified as a peninsula by geographers, who do not change landform designations based on man-made canal construction."
-- Extrabatteries ( talk) 15:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
As a large part of the history of the Cape and a vital part of the history of our country lighthouses are very important. I think that the lighthouses of Cape Cod deserve mentioning. Could someone please add brief history's as well as some pictures (cannot get any without breaking copyrights) for some of the lighthouses of Cape Cod.
Also I believe that the light savers, and some famous shipwrecks of Cape Cod as a large part of its history should be a larger part of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.132.135 ( talk) 21:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The reason provided to explain why the Cape gets less rainfall than the rest of Massachusetts is 100% wrong. The correct reason is that air-mass thunderstorms are not common over the peninsula in the summer due to maritime air disturbing their organization. And yes, I am a meteorologist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gligg ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Rather than simply verbally describing the interior features and towns, it would be useful to have a map showing them. -- Beland 18:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
{{Location map Cape Cod}}
, and then to build upon that to make {{
Cape Cod Lighthouses}}
and {{
Cape Cod overlay map}}
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Grollτech (
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15:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)Should this article be merged with Barnstable County, Massachusetts? Pretty much everything you could say about the one, you could say about the other, and yet the two articles are very different. -- Beland 18:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Today I added a brief section to the Cape Cod article about sport fishing. The section included internal links and two links to pages on the recently launched site www.gofishn.com. The page son GoFISHn.com contain excerpts from the book, The Fishing Encyclopedia, which is widely considered to be one of the finest comprehensive works on sport fishing. It has never been available online before, and GoFISHn recently published nearly 2000 articles from the work, under a license from the publisher, Wiley. In general, I assume that it's worthwhile to link to a high-quality source like this from Wikipedia, assuming that the context is correct. Please correct me if I am wrong. But perhaps I did not handle the attribution correctly. I'd be grateful for insights on how best to handle this. Or some explanation as to why I might be completely off base. EWDes ( talk) 01:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
I did not copy text word for word from the article. In fact, I did not even come close to doing that. I summarized several hundred words of material in a few sentences. So far you've suggested two issues: One, that I did not follow Wikipedia's linking policy, but you have not explained how I violated that policy. I'm not sure myself that I got that completely right, but based on my reading I think it's fine. I'd appreciate more detailed feedback than what you've had to say so far. Second, you've also suggested that I copied material, which I absolutely did not, and you can see that for yourself, if you want to go to the original source. I'd be grateful for constructive feedback. EWDes ( talk) 12:59, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
I will wait a few days to see if anyone else has a point of view on this issue, and unless someone steers me in another direction will re-post the sport fishing section, eliminate the in-text links to the encyclopedia, and replace them with references, as SquidSK suggests. EWDes ( talk) 16:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Vampire Weekend refers to Cape Cod in two of their songs: Walcot and Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa. I'm not sure of what to do with that and if it's even noteworthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.172.119.164 ( talk) 17:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I removed ", and called Cape of Keel by early Norse explorers" from the start of the article. Needs citation if true, but all accounts I've heard of Norse explorers only made it to northern Canada. Cheers, — sligocki ( talk) 01:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I just added alot of new information on The Lower Cape. -- Worldviews190 ( talk) 04:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason why Nobska Light ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobska_Light) isn't listed as a cape lighthouse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.24.6 ( talk) 20:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
In the movie The Core actress Hilary Swank says "we are dodging diamonds the size of Cape Cod" at the mantle/core interface. it struck me as funny.[ [1]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.63.91.140 ( talk) 22:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
The section entitled "Geography and political divisions" has been hijacked way off course. Three paragraphs that once simply enumerated the towns and their villages have been expanded into mini travel guides, and every time I come across this, it irritates me like nails on a chalkboard:
Bourne is home to the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, in the village of Buzzards Bay, along the canal, Massachusetts Military Reservation, Aptucxet Trading Post, [1] the annual Bourne Scallop Festival in September, and, until 1884, was part of Sandwich. Sandwich, the oldest town on Cape Cod, founded in 1637, is home to the Dexter Grist Mill, the historic Hoxie House, Heritage Museums and Gardens, the Sandwich Glass Museum, the Thornton Burgess Museum, the Green Briar Nature Center, a Friends' Meeting House, a U.S. Coast Guard Station, and many quaint inns and motels, restaurants, shops and activities. Mashpee, home of the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe of Native Americans, hosts Mashpee Commons, an outdoor shopping mall, with many boutiques, eateries, movie theaters, and offices, as is the newer South Cape Village, a short way south towards Falmouth, along Route 28; it is also home to New Seabury, an upscale residential golf community along Vineyard Sound, South Cape Beach, the Cape Cod Children's Museum, the Boys & Girls Club of Cape Cod, the Indian Meeting House just off Route 151, and a historic one-room school house near Town Hall, on Great Neck Road North.
This stuff is like Kudzu... if it's allowed to take hold, it'll spread all over the place, as is evidenced by the recent additions to the Mid Cape:
The Mid-Cape area features many beautiful beaches, including warm-water beaches along Nantucket Sound, e.g., Kalmus Beach in Hyannis, which gets its name from one of the inventors of Technicolor, Herbert Kalmus. This popular windsurfing destination was bequeathed to the town of Barnstable by Dr. Kalmus on condition that it not be developed, possibly one of the first instances of open-space preservation in the US. The Mid-Cape is also the commercial and industrial center of the region.
and now the Lower Cape paragraph has gotten it too:
This area is home to the Cape Cod National Seashore, a national park that encompasses much of the Outer Cape, including the entire east-facing coast from Orleans to Provincetown. The Outer Cape is home to some of the most popular beaches in the United States, such as Nauset Light Beach and Coast Guard Beach in Eastham, Race Point Beach in Provincetown, Ballston Beach in Truro, and Skaket Beach in Orleans. The Outer Cape and the beaches in the area have become infamous for their summertime Great White Shark sightings along with numerous other shark species. In the summer of 2012, a tourist was attacked and bitten by a Great White Shark off of Ballston Beach in Truro, and had to be transported to a Boston-area hospital for treatment. He received almost 60 stitches in his leg and had surgery to repair damage. Stephen Leatherman, aka "Dr. Beach", named Coast Guard Beach the 5th best beach in America in 2007. [2] The Outer Cape is the most unpopulated, or "rural" area of Cape Cod outside of Provincetown, which has a small, populated, city-like atmosphere during the summer season. Provincetown has become a major gay & lesbian resort destination – The town is regarded as one of the largest LGBT resort communities in the United States. Provincetown is also renowned for it's historic fishing fleets and Stellwagen Bank, a hugely popular fishing ground, is located only a few miles offshore of Race Point in Provincetown.
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Does this bother anyone else? These passages violate Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a travel guide, and some of it also violates Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. These are policies, not guidelines. Most of this stuff should be taken to Wikivoyage. Very little of it has anything to do with "Geography and political divisions", and I believe the few notable words above are already covered elsewhere. Unless somebody can talk me out of it, this is fair warning that I'm getting my axe sharpened for some spring pruning... Grollτech ( talk)
(Moving this from my user talk page as suggested... -- Beland ( talk) 20:56, 12 July 2013 (UTC))
Hi Beland- Thanks for working on the Cape Cod article. I tweaked the bike trails section a bit. The rail trail runs along the boundary of the Seashore (what we call the Nat'l Park here) for its northernmost 2.6 miles, but it isn't really in the Park. So I took out a bit of your description, but we could add a note saying that the trail provides access to the Park if you think that would help. Aside: do you know if there's something like a talkback template where I could put this note on the article talk page while simultaneously alerting you to it? Cheers. Eric talk 21:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I am moving the following unsourced and dubious assertion to the talk page for now:
By some definitions, the Cape and Islands region includes part or all of the adjacent towns of Plymouth and Wareham. citation needed [1]
I say "unsourced" because the cited source does not support the assertion that was made in the text. Specifically, the "Cape and Islands region" is not the same as the "Cape Cod Canal region". — grolltech( talk) 13:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
The Cape Cod Baseball League, a collegiate summer baseball league, has a team based in Wareham, Massachusetts. Also, historically Cape Cod and Plymouth, Massachusetts are connected through european explorers (example: The Pilgrims landed in various areas on the Cape before settling in Plymouth Colony) -- Aidan721 ( talk) 19:52, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I propose that Cape Cod and Islands be merged here into Cape Cod. I think that the content in the Cape Cod and Islands article can easily be explained in the context of Cape Cod, and the Cape Cod and Islands article is a small article and is in need of updating. Merging the article here will give the article more detailed information. For a new name I suggest Cape Cod and Islands. I want to merge the article here at Cape Cod as it is a much larger article than the Cape Cod and Islands. -- Aidan721 ( talk) 20:08, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I support the proposed merger. The CC&I page has no information that this page doesn't have. Aaekia ( talk) 9 February 2015
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What is this? Cape Cod must have a Csb climate, not a Cfb climate due to the many rainy days in winter and few rainy days during summer. You must be joking by saying that. Koppen is brainless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.55.166 ( talk) 02:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Since 2004 it has been the Park Service (Cape Cod National Seashore) and the Society.
Partnership Agreement signed June, 2004 On May 24, 2004, the long-awaited Partnership Agreement between the Nauset Light Preservation Society and the National Park Service was signed. NLPS president Richard Ryder and Cape Cod National Seashore superintendent Maria Burks affixed their signatures to the agreement. It will be in effect for five years, after which time, the agreement will be subject to renewal. Past presidents Hawkins Conrad and Pam Nobili were among those attending the signing.
Under the agreement, NLPS operates Nauset Light as a private aid to navigation, and is responsible for all utilities, repair and maintenance associated with the tower and the oil house. http://www.nausetlight.org/NLupdate.htm
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Considering all routes and ferry companies are described it does not fall under WP:NOTTRAVEL. There are no suggestions as to which route is the best. Md2022 ( talk) 12:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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The article says that the area of Cape Cod is 1,033 km². But the article on Barnstable County, Massachusetts says that its land area is 1,024 km². How can this be, when all of Cape Cod is part of Barnstable County? Where did those extra 9 km² come from? -- AJD 23:56, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Hello all- Not a terribly important point, but you may want to take a look at the definitions of peninsulaand cape. - Eric (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
All of Bourne, not just the southern 3/4, has always been part of Cape Cod, well before the canal was created, although some locals, I guess, wrongly believe it starts after you cross the canal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.221.32.10 ( talk) 17:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
One cannot deny P-town's gay and lesbian tourist attractions in addition to the whale watching that takes place. I added a blurb covering that. Colby Peterson 16:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Why are there two very similar sattelite images of Cape Cod on the page? To the untutored eye, at least, there doesn't seem to be any significant difference between them to justify them both. Just wondering if someone could explain it to me. Billy Shears 22:04, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
External linking wars in this article, particularly among those promoting particular Cape Cod travel and information portals and personal sites, are growing extremely tiresome. There are so many such sites (e.g. capecod.com, capecodtravel.com, ecape.com, capecodtoday.com, capelinks.com etc. etc. etc.) that linking to any particular one is prohibitive.
From the guidelines on Wikipedia:External links:
Occasionally acceptable links [...] Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open). If deemed unnecessary, or if no good directory listing exists, one should not be included. (emphasis added)
The regional Chamber site is the least volatile/advertising-sensitive of these options, and adequate in providing the directory feature. If there is consensus that the Chamber site itself is too controversial or divisive, that too could be eliminated. It is not Wikipedia's role to provide commercial links, even if they are under the guise of "directory assistance." This article should be about the Cape itself, not which advertiser has been here most recently.
CapeCodEph 21:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Depite this request for comments, the links are back, and I fear this is going to turn into an editing war, with links being removed on a daily basis without much discussion to support (or deny) the edits. There is also a dearth of interest in the discussion, so I'm going to solicit other editors' opinions for policy input. CapeCodEph 05:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
The two sections "History" and "Geography" seem to have been lopped off earlier today by a user with only an IP address. SInce there is no explanation, and these are valid sections, I reinstated the immediately previous edit. Perhaps this was a mistake, but it was done in two edits, so I don't know. Tvoz 19:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Why is Mashpee, Massachusetts highlighted in the image of Cape Cod at the top of the article? FEastman 00:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
As long as there has been a Cape Cod Cannel, there has been a debate over what is Cape Cod and what is not. By definition, a man-made structure can not determine or redefine the physical characteristics of a cape of any kind. One needs to apply a more educated analysis of the facts instead of utilizing personal opinion, arbitrary colloquialisms and the like to truly define where Cape Cod’s boarders lie.
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, a “Cape” is defined as a, “headland or promontory” (ORIGIN Old French cap, from Latin caput ‘head’). A cape is not to be confused with the word “Peninsula” which is defined as, “a long, narrow piece of land projecting out into a sea or lake”. Hence, a cape may include a peninsula, as “Cape” Cod does, but a peninsula is not a qualifier nor a requisite for a piece of land to be defined a cape.
In the case of Cape Cod, we not only have a distinctive headland that starts well west of the man-made Cape Cod Canal, we have the assistance of geology to define its location. Cape Cod is mainly composed of a sand base as a result of glacial formation (see Geology section for more detail). The geological differences between Cape Cod and other Southeastern Massachusetts communities are stark. Vegetation is a testament to this difference. Pitch Pine, Oak and other species of flora and fauna thrive on the Cape’s sandy promontory and differ greatly from the mainland’s plant life.
As a result of these facts, no encyclopedic definition or discussion of Cape Cod can be complete without including all of the Cape Cod headland and not simply the portion that is encapsulated by a convenient, man-made demarcation line. It is beyond dispute that the towns of Plymouth and Wareham are factually part of Cape Cod. Therefore, all discussion on Cape Cod as a whole in Wikipedia must include mention of these towns. To remove them from the definition and explanation of what and where Cape Cod is, as if they were some foreign world with no attachment, is baseless and clearly founded in unsupported opinion and conjecture.
It is therefore recommended that any edits to this article that fail to recognize all of Cape Cod by including the geographic region from Provincetown to Plymouth and Chatham to Wareham, be immediately struck and corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leftshore ( talk • contribs) 20:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, for starters, the first line on the article reads, “This article is about the geographic landform. For other uses, see Cape Cod (disambiguation)” and not “This article is about where many people 'feel' Cape Cod is”. So yes, for the record, this article is all about geographic landform and issues that relate to it.
Secondly, the idea that the name “Cape Cod” is a misnomer and had people really known what they were doing when they named it, they would have been called “Peninsula Cod” is absurd. To say “What Cape Cod is is determined by what the people who use the name "Cape Cod" mean by it” is like saying that because a consensus of people feel 2+2 is 8, it’s now right.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a private web blog. While it is open to all to edit, it is not immune from the truth. Otherwise, it has no value as a resource. It should be the goal of every editor to seek the actual truth as dictated by fact, even when they would much rather cling to the warm fuzzy ideas of their past understandings.
I am using the Oxford English Dictionary and God’s geography to determine the location of Cape Cod. Unfortunately, your argument is still based in opinion and conjecture and denies the simple facts. Leftshore 15:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that the geography currently offered in this article covers Human geography quite nicely, but based on all of the facts (not opinion) that I have set forth above, it fails miserably from the stand point of Physical geography. The only change I am proposing now is to have this article title note “This article is about the Human geography of Cape Cod. For other uses, see Cape Cod (disambiguation)” and a new article with the title note, “This article is about the Physical geography of Cape Cod. For other uses, see Cape Cod (disambiguation).”
The beauty of using the proper geographic terms is that we have a standardized test as to what is geographic fact and what has become commonly accepted. That would give us an outside compass on what information goes into each article and alleviate much of the debate on where Cape Cod actually is. Leftshore 17:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
As someone who lives on the Cape, I might offer my own opinion -- the Cape is, de facto, Barnstable County, including the 1/3 of the town of Bourne (and a small chunk of Sandwich) on the north side of the canal and possibly, depending on who you talk to, part of Wareham. While a large chunk of Plymouth might be "part of the Cape" geologically and in terms of local biology, Plymouth has a very distinct identity from Cape Cod, so much so that even people from Massachusetts might be surprised to learn that the Cape was originally part of the Plymouth colony. You certainly don't get too many people who live on this side of the canal claiming that Wareham and Plymouth are part of the Cape, and in fact a trip up route 3 indicates that the scrub pine forest characteristic of Cape life tends to peter out well before the Plymouth Center exits. Haikupoet 00:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Cape Cod is an island according to the Cape Cod Commission:
As submitted in a report "Susceptibility to Natural Disaster: Cape Cod encompasses 412.42 square miles (approximately 236,930 acres) and is surrounded by the waters of the Cape Cod Canal, Cape Cod Bay, Atlantic Ocean, Nantucket Sound, and Vineyard Sound. Effectively, Cape Cod is an island connected to the mainland only by two four-lane bridges and a seldom used train bridge."
via
http://www.capecodcommission.org/
Is there reason to omit this data in favor of this current sentence in the article?: "It is still identified as a peninsula by geographers, who do not change landform designations based on man-made canal construction."
-- Extrabatteries ( talk) 15:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
As a large part of the history of the Cape and a vital part of the history of our country lighthouses are very important. I think that the lighthouses of Cape Cod deserve mentioning. Could someone please add brief history's as well as some pictures (cannot get any without breaking copyrights) for some of the lighthouses of Cape Cod.
Also I believe that the light savers, and some famous shipwrecks of Cape Cod as a large part of its history should be a larger part of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.132.135 ( talk) 21:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The reason provided to explain why the Cape gets less rainfall than the rest of Massachusetts is 100% wrong. The correct reason is that air-mass thunderstorms are not common over the peninsula in the summer due to maritime air disturbing their organization. And yes, I am a meteorologist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gligg ( talk • contribs) 22:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Rather than simply verbally describing the interior features and towns, it would be useful to have a map showing them. -- Beland 18:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
{{Location map Cape Cod}}
, and then to build upon that to make {{
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and {{
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.
Grollτech (
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15:28, 7 June 2013 (UTC)Should this article be merged with Barnstable County, Massachusetts? Pretty much everything you could say about the one, you could say about the other, and yet the two articles are very different. -- Beland 18:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Today I added a brief section to the Cape Cod article about sport fishing. The section included internal links and two links to pages on the recently launched site www.gofishn.com. The page son GoFISHn.com contain excerpts from the book, The Fishing Encyclopedia, which is widely considered to be one of the finest comprehensive works on sport fishing. It has never been available online before, and GoFISHn recently published nearly 2000 articles from the work, under a license from the publisher, Wiley. In general, I assume that it's worthwhile to link to a high-quality source like this from Wikipedia, assuming that the context is correct. Please correct me if I am wrong. But perhaps I did not handle the attribution correctly. I'd be grateful for insights on how best to handle this. Or some explanation as to why I might be completely off base. EWDes ( talk) 01:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
I did not copy text word for word from the article. In fact, I did not even come close to doing that. I summarized several hundred words of material in a few sentences. So far you've suggested two issues: One, that I did not follow Wikipedia's linking policy, but you have not explained how I violated that policy. I'm not sure myself that I got that completely right, but based on my reading I think it's fine. I'd appreciate more detailed feedback than what you've had to say so far. Second, you've also suggested that I copied material, which I absolutely did not, and you can see that for yourself, if you want to go to the original source. I'd be grateful for constructive feedback. EWDes ( talk) 12:59, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
I will wait a few days to see if anyone else has a point of view on this issue, and unless someone steers me in another direction will re-post the sport fishing section, eliminate the in-text links to the encyclopedia, and replace them with references, as SquidSK suggests. EWDes ( talk) 16:47, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Vampire Weekend refers to Cape Cod in two of their songs: Walcot and Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa. I'm not sure of what to do with that and if it's even noteworthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.172.119.164 ( talk) 17:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I removed ", and called Cape of Keel by early Norse explorers" from the start of the article. Needs citation if true, but all accounts I've heard of Norse explorers only made it to northern Canada. Cheers, — sligocki ( talk) 01:48, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I just added alot of new information on The Lower Cape. -- Worldviews190 ( talk) 04:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason why Nobska Light ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobska_Light) isn't listed as a cape lighthouse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.24.6 ( talk) 20:51, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
In the movie The Core actress Hilary Swank says "we are dodging diamonds the size of Cape Cod" at the mantle/core interface. it struck me as funny.[ [1]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.63.91.140 ( talk) 22:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
The section entitled "Geography and political divisions" has been hijacked way off course. Three paragraphs that once simply enumerated the towns and their villages have been expanded into mini travel guides, and every time I come across this, it irritates me like nails on a chalkboard:
Bourne is home to the Massachusetts Maritime Academy, in the village of Buzzards Bay, along the canal, Massachusetts Military Reservation, Aptucxet Trading Post, [1] the annual Bourne Scallop Festival in September, and, until 1884, was part of Sandwich. Sandwich, the oldest town on Cape Cod, founded in 1637, is home to the Dexter Grist Mill, the historic Hoxie House, Heritage Museums and Gardens, the Sandwich Glass Museum, the Thornton Burgess Museum, the Green Briar Nature Center, a Friends' Meeting House, a U.S. Coast Guard Station, and many quaint inns and motels, restaurants, shops and activities. Mashpee, home of the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe of Native Americans, hosts Mashpee Commons, an outdoor shopping mall, with many boutiques, eateries, movie theaters, and offices, as is the newer South Cape Village, a short way south towards Falmouth, along Route 28; it is also home to New Seabury, an upscale residential golf community along Vineyard Sound, South Cape Beach, the Cape Cod Children's Museum, the Boys & Girls Club of Cape Cod, the Indian Meeting House just off Route 151, and a historic one-room school house near Town Hall, on Great Neck Road North.
This stuff is like Kudzu... if it's allowed to take hold, it'll spread all over the place, as is evidenced by the recent additions to the Mid Cape:
The Mid-Cape area features many beautiful beaches, including warm-water beaches along Nantucket Sound, e.g., Kalmus Beach in Hyannis, which gets its name from one of the inventors of Technicolor, Herbert Kalmus. This popular windsurfing destination was bequeathed to the town of Barnstable by Dr. Kalmus on condition that it not be developed, possibly one of the first instances of open-space preservation in the US. The Mid-Cape is also the commercial and industrial center of the region.
and now the Lower Cape paragraph has gotten it too:
This area is home to the Cape Cod National Seashore, a national park that encompasses much of the Outer Cape, including the entire east-facing coast from Orleans to Provincetown. The Outer Cape is home to some of the most popular beaches in the United States, such as Nauset Light Beach and Coast Guard Beach in Eastham, Race Point Beach in Provincetown, Ballston Beach in Truro, and Skaket Beach in Orleans. The Outer Cape and the beaches in the area have become infamous for their summertime Great White Shark sightings along with numerous other shark species. In the summer of 2012, a tourist was attacked and bitten by a Great White Shark off of Ballston Beach in Truro, and had to be transported to a Boston-area hospital for treatment. He received almost 60 stitches in his leg and had surgery to repair damage. Stephen Leatherman, aka "Dr. Beach", named Coast Guard Beach the 5th best beach in America in 2007. [2] The Outer Cape is the most unpopulated, or "rural" area of Cape Cod outside of Provincetown, which has a small, populated, city-like atmosphere during the summer season. Provincetown has become a major gay & lesbian resort destination – The town is regarded as one of the largest LGBT resort communities in the United States. Provincetown is also renowned for it's historic fishing fleets and Stellwagen Bank, a hugely popular fishing ground, is located only a few miles offshore of Race Point in Provincetown.
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Does this bother anyone else? These passages violate Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a travel guide, and some of it also violates Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. These are policies, not guidelines. Most of this stuff should be taken to Wikivoyage. Very little of it has anything to do with "Geography and political divisions", and I believe the few notable words above are already covered elsewhere. Unless somebody can talk me out of it, this is fair warning that I'm getting my axe sharpened for some spring pruning... Grollτech ( talk)
(Moving this from my user talk page as suggested... -- Beland ( talk) 20:56, 12 July 2013 (UTC))
Hi Beland- Thanks for working on the Cape Cod article. I tweaked the bike trails section a bit. The rail trail runs along the boundary of the Seashore (what we call the Nat'l Park here) for its northernmost 2.6 miles, but it isn't really in the Park. So I took out a bit of your description, but we could add a note saying that the trail provides access to the Park if you think that would help. Aside: do you know if there's something like a talkback template where I could put this note on the article talk page while simultaneously alerting you to it? Cheers. Eric talk 21:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
I am moving the following unsourced and dubious assertion to the talk page for now:
By some definitions, the Cape and Islands region includes part or all of the adjacent towns of Plymouth and Wareham. citation needed [1]
I say "unsourced" because the cited source does not support the assertion that was made in the text. Specifically, the "Cape and Islands region" is not the same as the "Cape Cod Canal region". — grolltech( talk) 13:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
The Cape Cod Baseball League, a collegiate summer baseball league, has a team based in Wareham, Massachusetts. Also, historically Cape Cod and Plymouth, Massachusetts are connected through european explorers (example: The Pilgrims landed in various areas on the Cape before settling in Plymouth Colony) -- Aidan721 ( talk) 19:52, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I propose that Cape Cod and Islands be merged here into Cape Cod. I think that the content in the Cape Cod and Islands article can easily be explained in the context of Cape Cod, and the Cape Cod and Islands article is a small article and is in need of updating. Merging the article here will give the article more detailed information. For a new name I suggest Cape Cod and Islands. I want to merge the article here at Cape Cod as it is a much larger article than the Cape Cod and Islands. -- Aidan721 ( talk) 20:08, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I support the proposed merger. The CC&I page has no information that this page doesn't have. Aaekia ( talk) 9 February 2015
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What is this? Cape Cod must have a Csb climate, not a Cfb climate due to the many rainy days in winter and few rainy days during summer. You must be joking by saying that. Koppen is brainless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.55.166 ( talk) 02:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Since 2004 it has been the Park Service (Cape Cod National Seashore) and the Society.
Partnership Agreement signed June, 2004 On May 24, 2004, the long-awaited Partnership Agreement between the Nauset Light Preservation Society and the National Park Service was signed. NLPS president Richard Ryder and Cape Cod National Seashore superintendent Maria Burks affixed their signatures to the agreement. It will be in effect for five years, after which time, the agreement will be subject to renewal. Past presidents Hawkins Conrad and Pam Nobili were among those attending the signing.
Under the agreement, NLPS operates Nauset Light as a private aid to navigation, and is responsible for all utilities, repair and maintenance associated with the tower and the oil house. http://www.nausetlight.org/NLupdate.htm
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Considering all routes and ferry companies are described it does not fall under WP:NOTTRAVEL. There are no suggestions as to which route is the best. Md2022 ( talk) 12:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)