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Does the "Calumetopoly" game really have any encyclopedic significance? --
64squares 22:11, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
No. Bigturtle 17:04, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
The article previously mentioned the following:
Calumet is famously known as the runner up in the decision of the location of the Michigan State Capitol, having lost to Lansing by one vote citation needed.
It seems interesting and would be great to put back in. Does anyone have a source?-- 24.209.135.229 ( talk) 21:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Having worked at the Keweenaw National Historical Park, and based upon SEVERAL books, inculding Lankton, Calumet was defintely NOT ever a contender with Lansing to be the capital. The Keweenaw was still largely a wasteland when Douglass Houghton, the Michigan state geologist made his survey in 1841. It wasn't until *1864* that Edwin Hulbert discovered the load of copper called the Calumet Conglomerate upon which the town would revolve around and Red Jacket (Calumet) wasn't organized as a town until 1867, 20 years AFTER Lansing was chosen as the capital. So how in the name of sanity can a non-existent town be a contender for the state capital 20 years before it was founded? And who started this ahistorical rumor anyway? 67.247.147.235 ( talk) 15:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
First in Michigan, should be mentioned. -- Daniel C. Boyer 20:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I added the oldest paved road in Michigan. Feel free to edit t as needed! Moonlandingwasahoax ( talk) 18:40, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Link seems to be dead. Someone should investigate. -- 141.219.44.44 21:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
In the 3rd paragraph under History, we learn:
But then the article explains that Calumet township actually had only slightly more than half that population, and that to arrive at that 60,000, we have to include Hancock, Dollar Bay, South Range, Atlantic, and Dodgeville. Honestly, do the folks in South Range really think of themselves as part of the "greater Calumet metroplex"? Why don't we just give the population of Calumet township and leave it at that? Plazak ( talk) 19:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I corrected the population figures to reflect only Red Jacket and Calumet Township. Now as the the following statement in the article: "Red Jacket suffered from mining labor strikes, and the population began to decline." The above wording implies that the labor troubles caused the decline in population; if anyone can substantiate such a connection, please add documentation. A more likely cause for the period 1910-1920 is greater mining productivity due to mechanization. Plazak ( talk) 16:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
An indication would be helpful for non-locals. Which syllable is stressed? Is it roughly CA-lu-met? Ca-LOO-met? Ca-lu-MET? Draggleduck ( talk) 04:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Uhm. It says that George Gipp is a notable person from Calumet. However, adjacent Laurium also claims his as one of their own. And Laurium actually has a memorial shrine dedicated to Gipp's memory erected in a prominent place in the town. However, I don't want to get picky about this. -- Saukkomies talk 01:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Being from Laurium, I highly believe that the story is true that George Gipp is from Laurium. I have heard this many times, and there are two memorial service for him (one being the George Gipp Arena located at the corner of 3rd St and Isle Royale St.) Moonlandingwasahoax ( talk) 18:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Correction: As stated: in the 1984 movie, "Red Dawn", 'Calumet' was not re-created in Colorado but in Las Vegas, New Mexico as meticulously detailed in this Utube video by 'adamthewoo'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I35Y2qp19vw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.177.207 ( talk) 20:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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The revert edit on 17 January 2017 done by user Daniel C. Boyer is legitimate. He removed erroneous information regarding the history of Calumet, though originally it was added by another user with honest good intent. The information removed discussed the name change and incorporation of the communities of Red Jacket, Calumet, Hecla and Laurium, and included a link to a web page hosted by InfoMi, a dubious source at best. The confusion in the wording of the reference is due to the fact that it is talking about the US Post Office that opened in Calumet in 1866 that eventually took over the mail delivery of the surrounding areas. However, this does not mean that these separate communities merged civil governments. The communities of Red Jacket, Calumet, Hecla, South Hecla and others did merge to form the single town of Calumet, but Laurium always remained a separate civil entity. Additionally, Laurium was once called Calumet, and in 1893 it acquired its own separate post office and changed its name to the present Laurium.
Much of this confusion is made more clear if one takes into consideration that the communities derived their original names from the copper mine shafts they were built around to provide housing for the mine workers. Sometimes the same mine would have several shafts built far apart from each other to access the intricate mine tunnels below. The Calumet/Hecla Mine is such a case, and the shaft bearing the name of Calumet Mine Shaft was located in the present-day town of Laurium. The same is the case with the other communities: Red Jacket, Hecla, South Hecla, etc. all were the names of the mine shafts located in various places, and gave their names to the communities that surrounded them, even though sometimes those communities were directly adjacent to each other, forming a cohesive, uninterrupted town. When Red Jacket, Hecla, South Hecla merged their civil governments and formed the town of Calumet, it was in response to the often confusing situation in which people often had no idea what town they were living in, as the boundaries were often unclear. Laurium, however, being the community where many of the more affluent mine employees lived, refused to merge with Calumet, and so when the other adjacent communities merged, Laurium voted to change its name and remain as a separate civil entity, and retained its separate social identity to this day. Today, Laurium is by far the larger community, however it is Calumet that is more widely known.
Here is the cited text from the reference that the original editor used as the basis for the erroneous edit:
-- Saukkomies talk 15:32, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello all, I had just went to look at the Calumet Public Library page and had seen that it now redirects to this page. Was it moved? What happened? Archigan ( talk) 20:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I fully agree with you, John from Idegon. It is not near as notable as, say, the old C&H Historic Library. I will not undo the edit nor will I contest it. Archigan ( talk) 20:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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Does the "Calumetopoly" game really have any encyclopedic significance? --
64squares 22:11, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
No. Bigturtle 17:04, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
The article previously mentioned the following:
Calumet is famously known as the runner up in the decision of the location of the Michigan State Capitol, having lost to Lansing by one vote citation needed.
It seems interesting and would be great to put back in. Does anyone have a source?-- 24.209.135.229 ( talk) 21:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Having worked at the Keweenaw National Historical Park, and based upon SEVERAL books, inculding Lankton, Calumet was defintely NOT ever a contender with Lansing to be the capital. The Keweenaw was still largely a wasteland when Douglass Houghton, the Michigan state geologist made his survey in 1841. It wasn't until *1864* that Edwin Hulbert discovered the load of copper called the Calumet Conglomerate upon which the town would revolve around and Red Jacket (Calumet) wasn't organized as a town until 1867, 20 years AFTER Lansing was chosen as the capital. So how in the name of sanity can a non-existent town be a contender for the state capital 20 years before it was founded? And who started this ahistorical rumor anyway? 67.247.147.235 ( talk) 15:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
First in Michigan, should be mentioned. -- Daniel C. Boyer 20:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I added the oldest paved road in Michigan. Feel free to edit t as needed! Moonlandingwasahoax ( talk) 18:40, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Link seems to be dead. Someone should investigate. -- 141.219.44.44 21:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
In the 3rd paragraph under History, we learn:
But then the article explains that Calumet township actually had only slightly more than half that population, and that to arrive at that 60,000, we have to include Hancock, Dollar Bay, South Range, Atlantic, and Dodgeville. Honestly, do the folks in South Range really think of themselves as part of the "greater Calumet metroplex"? Why don't we just give the population of Calumet township and leave it at that? Plazak ( talk) 19:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I corrected the population figures to reflect only Red Jacket and Calumet Township. Now as the the following statement in the article: "Red Jacket suffered from mining labor strikes, and the population began to decline." The above wording implies that the labor troubles caused the decline in population; if anyone can substantiate such a connection, please add documentation. A more likely cause for the period 1910-1920 is greater mining productivity due to mechanization. Plazak ( talk) 16:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
An indication would be helpful for non-locals. Which syllable is stressed? Is it roughly CA-lu-met? Ca-LOO-met? Ca-lu-MET? Draggleduck ( talk) 04:37, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Uhm. It says that George Gipp is a notable person from Calumet. However, adjacent Laurium also claims his as one of their own. And Laurium actually has a memorial shrine dedicated to Gipp's memory erected in a prominent place in the town. However, I don't want to get picky about this. -- Saukkomies talk 01:27, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Being from Laurium, I highly believe that the story is true that George Gipp is from Laurium. I have heard this many times, and there are two memorial service for him (one being the George Gipp Arena located at the corner of 3rd St and Isle Royale St.) Moonlandingwasahoax ( talk) 18:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Correction: As stated: in the 1984 movie, "Red Dawn", 'Calumet' was not re-created in Colorado but in Las Vegas, New Mexico as meticulously detailed in this Utube video by 'adamthewoo'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I35Y2qp19vw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.177.207 ( talk) 20:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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The revert edit on 17 January 2017 done by user Daniel C. Boyer is legitimate. He removed erroneous information regarding the history of Calumet, though originally it was added by another user with honest good intent. The information removed discussed the name change and incorporation of the communities of Red Jacket, Calumet, Hecla and Laurium, and included a link to a web page hosted by InfoMi, a dubious source at best. The confusion in the wording of the reference is due to the fact that it is talking about the US Post Office that opened in Calumet in 1866 that eventually took over the mail delivery of the surrounding areas. However, this does not mean that these separate communities merged civil governments. The communities of Red Jacket, Calumet, Hecla, South Hecla and others did merge to form the single town of Calumet, but Laurium always remained a separate civil entity. Additionally, Laurium was once called Calumet, and in 1893 it acquired its own separate post office and changed its name to the present Laurium.
Much of this confusion is made more clear if one takes into consideration that the communities derived their original names from the copper mine shafts they were built around to provide housing for the mine workers. Sometimes the same mine would have several shafts built far apart from each other to access the intricate mine tunnels below. The Calumet/Hecla Mine is such a case, and the shaft bearing the name of Calumet Mine Shaft was located in the present-day town of Laurium. The same is the case with the other communities: Red Jacket, Hecla, South Hecla, etc. all were the names of the mine shafts located in various places, and gave their names to the communities that surrounded them, even though sometimes those communities were directly adjacent to each other, forming a cohesive, uninterrupted town. When Red Jacket, Hecla, South Hecla merged their civil governments and formed the town of Calumet, it was in response to the often confusing situation in which people often had no idea what town they were living in, as the boundaries were often unclear. Laurium, however, being the community where many of the more affluent mine employees lived, refused to merge with Calumet, and so when the other adjacent communities merged, Laurium voted to change its name and remain as a separate civil entity, and retained its separate social identity to this day. Today, Laurium is by far the larger community, however it is Calumet that is more widely known.
Here is the cited text from the reference that the original editor used as the basis for the erroneous edit:
-- Saukkomies talk 15:32, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello all, I had just went to look at the Calumet Public Library page and had seen that it now redirects to this page. Was it moved? What happened? Archigan ( talk) 20:31, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I fully agree with you, John from Idegon. It is not near as notable as, say, the old C&H Historic Library. I will not undo the edit nor will I contest it. Archigan ( talk) 20:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)