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In the light of the recent tom media and other prominence of the term, this article has been created, initially as a stub, as part of a series of articles on abuse. While it was, in 2001, a neologism, a fact that the article refers to, it is now in current parlance, a thing caused by the recent tragic series of LGBT bullying related suicides. It is not, however, an LGBT specific phenomenon. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 09:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
So what's the definition of the made-up word? The first sentence says suicide, but later on it says homicide. As regicide is the killing of a king, matricide the killing of a mother, etc., bullycide is clearly the killing of a bully, and the incorrect definition of the word should be removed. Reywas92 Talk 01:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
This seems out of place in the lead ( Manual of Style), if there are going to be comparisons of this type perhaps the article needs a body and separate lead text? Fæ ( talk) 16:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
That's not a good link for Wikipedia since it's a LJ post, but it has references to news stories. But unless suicide by cop is particularly likely in cases of bullycide, there's no reason to specifically mention it.
BTW: Would it help to list specific cases, or is that too much for this page? 65.185.155.121 ( talk) 16:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
If a consensus is reached then this merge and redirect can be made. There is, however, sufficient separation between bulling and bullycide to maintain separate articles. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 07:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Outside of ending or avoiding pain and suffering coming from within (physical like health/disease/disability, or emotional from unrequited love to pangs of conscience), isn't just about any other suicide a case of this??? Even the for-honour cases boil down to a refusal to live on in the ignominy of defeat (Samurai code and similar), failure (Captain goes down with his ship, etc.), or public shaming (scandals, rumors) --- in other words, making it a preemptive action to avoid the experience of peer group rejection and ostracism aka preventing pain & suffering inflicted from without... meanwhile, the rest are pushed to such actions by experiencing said continued pain & suffering inflicted from without. Which, well, sounds like a key element of bullying. That's really what all intentional suicide comes down to - avoiding some form of misery, which most often comes with external causes. Aka abuse and/or ostracism aka bullying. Because (truly) unintentional suicide, whether due to undocumented, insufficiently emphasized, or hazards of something/anything is really something else entirely, be it "death by misadventure" as per British euphemism or loss of life at the fault of another party entirely... while death by intentionally taking on a series of (known) disproportionate and unnecessary risks is self-harming or deadly risk-seeking behaviour that amounts to indecisively suicidal behaviour and/or "leaving it up to luck/fate/God/whatever", especially in cultures and societies that emphasize a more direct suicide as the epitome of taboo (as cultures rooted in Abrahamic faiths tend to do, while looking down far less on recklessness or thoughtlessness). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.70.219 ( talk) 20:44, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I hate portmanteaux! -- MacRùsgail ( talk) 17:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. The consensus is that the proposed title is unambiguous and more recognisable. Jenks24 ( talk) 00:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Bullycide →
Bullying and suicide – page was uncontroversially moved in November 2014; move was reverted in July 2015 for reasons I find unclear. I think the proposed move target is better in compliance with our policy on article titles, especially
WP:PRECISION. The -cide terminology is inherently ambiguous as to whether the subject of the article is suicide by bullied persons or homicide of a bully. "Bullycide" is also a neologism to which
WP:COMMONNAME applies, though the alternative proposed "X and Y" format naming is rather too apples and oranges to readily, quantitatively, compare.
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In the light of the recent tom media and other prominence of the term, this article has been created, initially as a stub, as part of a series of articles on abuse. While it was, in 2001, a neologism, a fact that the article refers to, it is now in current parlance, a thing caused by the recent tragic series of LGBT bullying related suicides. It is not, however, an LGBT specific phenomenon. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 09:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
So what's the definition of the made-up word? The first sentence says suicide, but later on it says homicide. As regicide is the killing of a king, matricide the killing of a mother, etc., bullycide is clearly the killing of a bully, and the incorrect definition of the word should be removed. Reywas92 Talk 01:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
This seems out of place in the lead ( Manual of Style), if there are going to be comparisons of this type perhaps the article needs a body and separate lead text? Fæ ( talk) 16:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
That's not a good link for Wikipedia since it's a LJ post, but it has references to news stories. But unless suicide by cop is particularly likely in cases of bullycide, there's no reason to specifically mention it.
BTW: Would it help to list specific cases, or is that too much for this page? 65.185.155.121 ( talk) 16:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
If a consensus is reached then this merge and redirect can be made. There is, however, sufficient separation between bulling and bullycide to maintain separate articles. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 07:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Outside of ending or avoiding pain and suffering coming from within (physical like health/disease/disability, or emotional from unrequited love to pangs of conscience), isn't just about any other suicide a case of this??? Even the for-honour cases boil down to a refusal to live on in the ignominy of defeat (Samurai code and similar), failure (Captain goes down with his ship, etc.), or public shaming (scandals, rumors) --- in other words, making it a preemptive action to avoid the experience of peer group rejection and ostracism aka preventing pain & suffering inflicted from without... meanwhile, the rest are pushed to such actions by experiencing said continued pain & suffering inflicted from without. Which, well, sounds like a key element of bullying. That's really what all intentional suicide comes down to - avoiding some form of misery, which most often comes with external causes. Aka abuse and/or ostracism aka bullying. Because (truly) unintentional suicide, whether due to undocumented, insufficiently emphasized, or hazards of something/anything is really something else entirely, be it "death by misadventure" as per British euphemism or loss of life at the fault of another party entirely... while death by intentionally taking on a series of (known) disproportionate and unnecessary risks is self-harming or deadly risk-seeking behaviour that amounts to indecisively suicidal behaviour and/or "leaving it up to luck/fate/God/whatever", especially in cultures and societies that emphasize a more direct suicide as the epitome of taboo (as cultures rooted in Abrahamic faiths tend to do, while looking down far less on recklessness or thoughtlessness). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.70.219 ( talk) 20:44, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I hate portmanteaux! -- MacRùsgail ( talk) 17:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. The consensus is that the proposed title is unambiguous and more recognisable. Jenks24 ( talk) 00:55, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Bullycide →
Bullying and suicide – page was uncontroversially moved in November 2014; move was reverted in July 2015 for reasons I find unclear. I think the proposed move target is better in compliance with our policy on article titles, especially
WP:PRECISION. The -cide terminology is inherently ambiguous as to whether the subject of the article is suicide by bullied persons or homicide of a bully. "Bullycide" is also a neologism to which
WP:COMMONNAME applies, though the alternative proposed "X and Y" format naming is rather too apples and oranges to readily, quantitatively, compare.
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