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The standard practice on wikipedia is to include high profile rape or sexual asssault accusations. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Brock_(musician), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Travolta#Personal_life, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Roethlisberger#Sexual_assault_allegations
Bobsd: "...there is a cadre of editors that lunge at every article attempting to insert any and all salacious content." There is also a cadre of editors who resort to rhetoric about innocent until proven guilty to insist that even alleged offences have no place in entries. This type if editing war happens with high profile crimes such as those of Ariel Castro as well as those of celebrities. You, Bobsd, have misunderstood the essence of due process which is accorded to accusers as well as their alleged assailants. The mention of allegations is not synonymous with a declaration of guilt but your deciding to pretend they don't exist is nothing short of suggesting that the accuser is a liar before a court of law has heard the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.12.110.229 ( talk) 15:43, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the opening paragraph should mention that he's a deviant, considering how many times he has been accused. 2003:F4:1F12:DE01:4C90:842E:3C52:5D89 ( talk) 05:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bryan Singer/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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Last edited at 01:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 10:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Given that all these accusations seem to result in nothing should this section be removed? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 21:33, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
So just so I understand this, someone can accuse you of molesting them as a child with zero evidence, with zero convictions (criminal or civil), with a story that is proved to be false in the case of Michael Egan, and for the rest of your life any time anyone discusses you, you should be referred to as an alleged child abuser? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 08:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Sex abuse in Hollywood is a particularly important issue at this time, i.e. is notable/newsworthy, but a large amount of information regarding allegations against Singer along that line was recently deleted from this entry. I've undone those deletions and updated this entry, but I suspect further attempts will be forthcoming. Soraciel ( talk) 00:11, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
This section seems to composed solely of actors from the X-men franchise. Given that, does it make sense to have a section on frequent collaborators? The fact that such a section exists suggests that Singer tends to choose to collaborate with the same people, when in fact everyone was merely working together as a side effect of having been cast in a popular franchise. It seems misleading.-- Soraciel ( talk) 19:58, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
The section should be removed, which I will do with reference to similar issues noted here first, then here, and and once again, here. In those very similar edits, the users were new editors who apparently were unfamiliar with the guidelines explained. The section makes up over 25% of the article! -- Light show ( talk) 17:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
The first line of this paragraph is:
"Allegations against Singer were revived following the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations in 2017, as well as those against frequent collaborator Kevin Spacey."
Singer and Spacey have worked together twice, on The Usual Suspects (1995) and Superman Returns (2006). It is my opinion this hardly qualifies them as 'frequent collaborators'. I would like to change 'frequent' to something a bit less 'weasel-wordy', ie 'some-time'. Anyone else mind if I make this change, as I don't feel two collaborations in a 23 year span will meet anyone's definition of 'frequent'. Robbmonster ( talk) 08:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
The page currently lists Dark Phoenix in Singer's filmography and says: "Uncredited producer during development and pre-production. Removed from production and credits amidst sexual assault allegations". However, the Wikipedia page for Dark Phoenix states that Singer was not involved in the project, relying on this source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/how-jessica-chastain-emerged-as-a-leader-gender-equality-1117361. If that is true, this page shouldn't list Dark Phoenix at all. I have tagged the Dark Phoenix listing as dubious. Does anybody have any light to shed on this? SunCrow ( talk) 07:30, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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Bobsd: "...there is a cadre of editors that lunge at every article attempting to insert any and all salacious content." There is also a cadre of editors who resort to rhetoric about innocent until proven guilty to insist that even alleged offences have no place in entries. This type if editing war happens with high profile crimes such as those of Ariel Castro as well as those of celebrities. You, Bobsd, have misunderstood the essence of due process which is accorded to accusers as well as their alleged assailants. The mention of allegations is not synonymous with a declaration of guilt but your deciding to pretend they don't exist is nothing short of suggesting that the accuser is a liar before a court of law has heard the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.12.110.229 ( talk) 15:43, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the opening paragraph should mention that he's a deviant, considering how many times he has been accused. 2003:F4:1F12:DE01:4C90:842E:3C52:5D89 ( talk) 05:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Bryan Singer/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
contains a lot of content, though lacking in sources, and style |
Last edited at 01:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 10:27, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Given that all these accusations seem to result in nothing should this section be removed? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 21:33, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
So just so I understand this, someone can accuse you of molesting them as a child with zero evidence, with zero convictions (criminal or civil), with a story that is proved to be false in the case of Michael Egan, and for the rest of your life any time anyone discusses you, you should be referred to as an alleged child abuser? AlistairMcMillan ( talk) 08:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Sex abuse in Hollywood is a particularly important issue at this time, i.e. is notable/newsworthy, but a large amount of information regarding allegations against Singer along that line was recently deleted from this entry. I've undone those deletions and updated this entry, but I suspect further attempts will be forthcoming. Soraciel ( talk) 00:11, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
This section seems to composed solely of actors from the X-men franchise. Given that, does it make sense to have a section on frequent collaborators? The fact that such a section exists suggests that Singer tends to choose to collaborate with the same people, when in fact everyone was merely working together as a side effect of having been cast in a popular franchise. It seems misleading.-- Soraciel ( talk) 19:58, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
The section should be removed, which I will do with reference to similar issues noted here first, then here, and and once again, here. In those very similar edits, the users were new editors who apparently were unfamiliar with the guidelines explained. The section makes up over 25% of the article! -- Light show ( talk) 17:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
The first line of this paragraph is:
"Allegations against Singer were revived following the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations in 2017, as well as those against frequent collaborator Kevin Spacey."
Singer and Spacey have worked together twice, on The Usual Suspects (1995) and Superman Returns (2006). It is my opinion this hardly qualifies them as 'frequent collaborators'. I would like to change 'frequent' to something a bit less 'weasel-wordy', ie 'some-time'. Anyone else mind if I make this change, as I don't feel two collaborations in a 23 year span will meet anyone's definition of 'frequent'. Robbmonster ( talk) 08:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
The page currently lists Dark Phoenix in Singer's filmography and says: "Uncredited producer during development and pre-production. Removed from production and credits amidst sexual assault allegations". However, the Wikipedia page for Dark Phoenix states that Singer was not involved in the project, relying on this source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/how-jessica-chastain-emerged-as-a-leader-gender-equality-1117361. If that is true, this page shouldn't list Dark Phoenix at all. I have tagged the Dark Phoenix listing as dubious. Does anybody have any light to shed on this? SunCrow ( talk) 07:30, 24 January 2020 (UTC)