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Seriously, a huge vacuum in the article is: I don't know where this bugs are to be found!! Can someone please fill that vacuum? And please don't turn it into some retarded Noah-related argument. Nobody cares about the Genesis myth anymore!! At least if you are a Catholic living outside the States... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.179.155 ( talk) 20:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Of course "intelligent design" is a euphemism for God, since it says there exists (somewhere, somehow) a designer who creates life - e.g., God. But you are correct, in that my statement comes across as POV-ish, not wikipedia-ian, so I'm not going to try putting it back in. -- DavidWBrooks 18:51, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I was vaguely thinking of the Raelians - but if you try, I won't revert. The link to irreducible complexity is the important bit :) Martin
The story of Darwin having tried to collect that beatle sounds unlikely at best. Are there any sources on this one? 84.139.20.7 19:20, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
<undent> Desmond & Moore specifically state that it was a bombardier beetle, but Browne doesn't identify the beetle. The above is effectively original research, but looks convincing. Accordingly, I've modified the biographical article to show the various sources. dave souza, talk 14:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it a problem that the entire second paragraph of this article is taken from here: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/bombardier.html (Number 2 in the sources)? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.97.25 ( talk • contribs)
At 06:35, 9 March 2006, 137.132.3.7 added "Note: It was originally under the category of [Category:catalysts], but as it had no bearing on catalysts, I removed it". .. dave souza, talk 08:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Where are these little guys usually found?
I'm wondering if these bombardier beetles are found anywhere near Mt. Ararat... because if Noah did collect two of every kind, he must've collected many kinds of beetles, but the "bombing" beetle might be specific to an area that he couldn't get to. I would love to shoot holes in the Creationists THEORY. I love to find out if there are Bombardiers in Turkey, or more specifically, Mt Ararat. - Deon
Why not ask a 2 year old what his idea about this beetle is! he might do a better job than creationists! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.203.233.77 ( talk) 09:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
I removed this:
"In one demonstration, documented in the book The Blind Watchmaker, biologist Richard Dawkins mixed together hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide in an artificial environment. No reaction occurred—a catalyst was required. Dawkins' point was that as the beetle's defensive mechanism evolved, the intermediate stages would not explode - the chemicals would not react without a catalyst."
Any objections? Rational User 05:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB310.html
"an evolutionary pathway that accounts for the bombardier beetle is not hard to come up with (Isaak 1997). One plausible sequence (much abbreviated) is thus:
All of the steps are small or can be easily broken down into smaller ones, and all are probably selectively advantageous. Several of the intermediate stages are known to be viable by the fact that they exist in other living species."—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.217.29.62 ( talk) 06:47, 23 June 2007
I just wanted to comment that this section of the article is EXCEEDINGLY poor. The bombardier beetle is used frequently by creationists/intelligent designists as an example of a complex system the individual parts of which are useless. The minor factual errors of Creationist X (e.g. the chemicals don't actually explode when put in immediate contact) is irrelevant to the point being made. It is not the purpose of Wikipedia to attempt lame deconstructions of theories with which we disagree. Somebody please rescue this section of the article. Am I wrong? Must Wikipedia "weigh in" on the creationist, evolutionist fight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.180.2 ( talk) 21:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
To be frank, i would move to ENTIRELY remove the 'evolution' section: It cites very little in the way of reliable sources, mostly repeats the 'defence mechanism' information and is continually biased either to one theory or another whilst adding no meaningful information to the article. Abergabe ( talk) 15:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Small thing - I'd change 'this has been refuted by' to 'this proposition is not accepted by'. 'Refute' is wrong here - 'rebut' would be better. To refute is to SHOW that something is unfounded, not merely to reject it. I fully accept the evolutionary explanation of the origin of the beetle's defences, but I don't think it can be said that the ID explanation has been shown by experiment to be invalid (even though it almost certainly is). Regards to all Notreallydavid ( talk) 07:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
The initial section, "Defense Mechanism", consists of two parts: an overview paragraph and a more detailed pair of paragraphs. The two parts are divided by a sentence at the end of the first paragraph: "A more detailed description of the process follows:". This seems awkward to me, but I'm not sure of how to improve it.
Perhaps the two parts need to be split into separate sections, the first describing the external manifestation of the defense mechanism, and the second describing the internal organs and chemicals that produce the observed results. -- Dan Griscom ( talk) 00:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is literally half the article about Creationism? It's inappropriate to waste so much of an article on this "debate". Keep that garbage in the Creationism vs Evolution or Intelligent Design article where it belongs. Don Dueck ( talk) 06:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I added 2 new sections about the beetle instead of the "controversy" surrounding it. the links I posted for the new sections have ,ore information that I can (or others can) transform into new sections I.E. Physical Description, Reproduction, ETC. I'm going to be busy for the weekend but could expand further on Monday. till then (and after) please others expand this article. if you remove the creationism and refutations this article is a stub and we should treat it as such. Donhoraldo ( talk) 06:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
This claim falls flat. The claimed fallacious article doesn't try to say this is how the defense mechanism evolved exactly step by step, but instead tries to counter the claim that there is no way for the mechanism to evolve. The article counter is this is A plausible evolutionary pathway. Further there is an argument presented that the gaps in the pathway make it religious, But as there are an infinite number of gaps between any 2 points and adding new data only demonstrates this the point is moot. After all by this argument 2 coming after 1 is a religious belief. Donhoraldo ( talk) 16:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason that's even up? Cataloging both sides of the story is one thing, but the section as written is definitely espousing a POV. MudskipperMarkII ( talk) 20:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Intelligent design biochemist isn't Behe title, nor anyone's. However I can understand if some think the accurate statement that he is an intelligent design creationist is not needed. As such I've changed it to intelligent design proponent. As far as it goes if it is needed to have the irrelevant fact of him being a biochemist (as his work on ID doesn't actually involve biochemistry)I advise them to follow the article on Behe and put it in the format ,"American biochemist, author, and intelligent design advocate" or "biochemist, and intelligent design advocate" to save space. Donhoraldo ( talk) 21:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The source lists extant organisms with all necessary intermediate stages for the formation of the defense mechanism. It has been claimed that because this is not necessarily the evolutionary sequence provided in the article we should however use "possible", instead of "all necessary". Even if the beetle didn't evolve along the prescribed lines this does not change the fact that there are extant animals witch use the proposed stages. Donhoraldo ( talk) 02:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I quoted Behe earlyer and someone reverted it becase I suposedly mis represented BEHE by a direct quote. Well here is the conclusion Behe comes to at the end of the passage. "All we can conclude at this point is that Darwinian evoultion might have occured. If we could analyze the structural details of the beetle to the last protein and enzyme, and if we could agree with Dawkins. For now, We cannot tell wether the step-by-step accreetions of our hypothedical evolutionary stream are single-mutation "hops" or helicopter rides between distant buttes." http://books.google.com/books?id=7L8mkq4jG6EC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=Can+the+other+components+be+added+to+the+bombardier's+system+in+such+a+way+that+the+function+continuously+improves?+It+would+seem+that+they+can.&source=bl&ots=ZAxoy1jrfT&sig=2d2IwQxHS-fage6ip6DuxUjCuIg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4J0sT-jPM8ru0gGqlKW8Cg&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Can%20the%20other%20components%20be%20added%20to%20the%20bombardier's%20system%20in%20such%20a%20way%20that%20the%20function%20continuously%20improves%3F%20It%20would%20seem%20that%20they%20can.&f=false(all transcriptional errors mine) In reading this it becomes clearly apparent that the previous version was in fact the one misrepresenting Behe. Donhoraldo ( talk) 03:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
I've significantly pared down the section about creationism as giving undue weight to a fringe view. If someone wants to add the beetle as an example to Irreducible_complexity#Stated_examples, then it could be linked to. But this article does not need to go into any more detail than to say a creationist argument exists and is rejected by mainstream science. GDallimore ( Talk) 13:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
GDallimore, you reverted my edit with the comment:
I have two problems with that. First, your complaint that the word "believe" has religious connotations is mistaken. Check the dictionary, if you doubt me.
Second, that "all the pre-bombardier beetle had to do" quote didn't come from a biologist, it came from a computer programmer. This section of the Bombardier beetle article is about what biologists believe (or, more accurately, what evolutionary biologists believe), and it cites page 214 of botanist Stan Rice's book, Encyclopedia of Evolution. But that citation supports neither the "have shown" claim nor the "easily" language.
The "have shown" claim is also contradicted by the (accurate) preceding phrase, "the true evolutionary path is still unknown..." If the evolutionary path is unknown, then it hasn't been shown.
If you don't like "biologists believe" then we could say "biologists hypothesize." For now, I'm going with "evolutionary biologists believe." If you prefer "hypothesize," please make that change, I will not object.
I see that the article also cites a 1997 usenet newsgroup essay, which obviously is not a reliable source, so I an deleting that. (I'm also making a couple of other minor improvements to the prose, which I'm sure you'll be okay with.) NCdave ( talk) 19:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Your line of reasoning is flawed. Isaak's article is not research into evolutionary biology so he does not need to be an established evolutionary biologist. His article is a tertiary source gathering together existing research on evolutionary biology to counter creationist claims. He is a recognised authority on countering creationist claims so the source is reliable for the purpose in which it is being used. Evolutionary biologists do not counter creationist claims because they have no need to bring themselves down to that level. GDallimore ( Talk) 11:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
NCdave, will you please try to rephrase that without the conspiracy theories, attacks on named living people, and general accusations of bad faith? No, science is not "just another POV", and no, Isaak's book is not "how to argue with creationists". And testifying at the Kitzmiller trial isn't evidence of POV, it's evidence that Padian's an expert on the subject. Calm down, and try discussing this based on facts and policy. Guettarda ( talk) 13:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Of the enzymes mentioned, catalases typically decompose hydrogen peroxide into water and oxygen, and peroxidases catalyze the reaction of hydrogen peroxide with various reducing agents depending on the particular peroxidase. In this case the reducing agent is hydroquinone, and the reaction product is para-quinone. Accordingly I have removed hydrogen from the list of reaction products. CharlesHBennett ( talk) 15:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
It would be nice if someone could come up with (or add) a scale to the pictures of the insect. I went looking and I couldn't find a picture with a scale that wasn't encumbered by someone else's rights. Norm Reitzel ( talk) 16:04, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
There is, in my opinion, still too much about Creationism in this article. It doesn't really belong in the introduction, and the entire "Evolution of the defense mechanism" section reads like passive aggressive spiting towards Creationism. Will try to trim it down a bit. Creationism should be mentioned as a small part of the Evolution section, not 10% of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilMiner ( talk • contribs) 13:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
In a large concentration of bombardier beetles, scientists speculate that the evolutionary significance of the aggregation behavior is related to predator avoidance. However, after an individual Brachinus sprays to exhaustion, they must wait a day and a half or 24-36 hours to recharge their chemical stores to fire again effectively (WM, pers. obs.). [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquilaa27 ( talk • contribs) 23:23, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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Please view the article at https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200616173227.htm. [1] The authors have some comments on irreducible complexity vs. evolution. LuckySpike ( talk) 02:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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The Bombardier Beetle entry offers a detailed examination of its taxonomy, anatomy, and defense mechanism, showcasing its remarkable ability to repel attackers with a chemical spray. However, to enhance comprehension of its biology and ecology, the page could delve into areas like social behavior, development phases, reproduction, and lifespan. Furthermore, exploring potential mutualistic interactions among beetles could shed light on its ecological significance within ecosystems. Addressing these aspects would enrich the reader's understanding of this unique species.
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Seriously, a huge vacuum in the article is: I don't know where this bugs are to be found!! Can someone please fill that vacuum? And please don't turn it into some retarded Noah-related argument. Nobody cares about the Genesis myth anymore!! At least if you are a Catholic living outside the States... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.179.155 ( talk) 20:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Of course "intelligent design" is a euphemism for God, since it says there exists (somewhere, somehow) a designer who creates life - e.g., God. But you are correct, in that my statement comes across as POV-ish, not wikipedia-ian, so I'm not going to try putting it back in. -- DavidWBrooks 18:51, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I was vaguely thinking of the Raelians - but if you try, I won't revert. The link to irreducible complexity is the important bit :) Martin
The story of Darwin having tried to collect that beatle sounds unlikely at best. Are there any sources on this one? 84.139.20.7 19:20, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
<undent> Desmond & Moore specifically state that it was a bombardier beetle, but Browne doesn't identify the beetle. The above is effectively original research, but looks convincing. Accordingly, I've modified the biographical article to show the various sources. dave souza, talk 14:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it a problem that the entire second paragraph of this article is taken from here: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/bombardier.html (Number 2 in the sources)? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.97.25 ( talk • contribs)
At 06:35, 9 March 2006, 137.132.3.7 added "Note: It was originally under the category of [Category:catalysts], but as it had no bearing on catalysts, I removed it". .. dave souza, talk 08:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Where are these little guys usually found?
I'm wondering if these bombardier beetles are found anywhere near Mt. Ararat... because if Noah did collect two of every kind, he must've collected many kinds of beetles, but the "bombing" beetle might be specific to an area that he couldn't get to. I would love to shoot holes in the Creationists THEORY. I love to find out if there are Bombardiers in Turkey, or more specifically, Mt Ararat. - Deon
Why not ask a 2 year old what his idea about this beetle is! he might do a better job than creationists! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.203.233.77 ( talk) 09:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
I removed this:
"In one demonstration, documented in the book The Blind Watchmaker, biologist Richard Dawkins mixed together hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide in an artificial environment. No reaction occurred—a catalyst was required. Dawkins' point was that as the beetle's defensive mechanism evolved, the intermediate stages would not explode - the chemicals would not react without a catalyst."
Any objections? Rational User 05:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB310.html
"an evolutionary pathway that accounts for the bombardier beetle is not hard to come up with (Isaak 1997). One plausible sequence (much abbreviated) is thus:
All of the steps are small or can be easily broken down into smaller ones, and all are probably selectively advantageous. Several of the intermediate stages are known to be viable by the fact that they exist in other living species."—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.217.29.62 ( talk) 06:47, 23 June 2007
I just wanted to comment that this section of the article is EXCEEDINGLY poor. The bombardier beetle is used frequently by creationists/intelligent designists as an example of a complex system the individual parts of which are useless. The minor factual errors of Creationist X (e.g. the chemicals don't actually explode when put in immediate contact) is irrelevant to the point being made. It is not the purpose of Wikipedia to attempt lame deconstructions of theories with which we disagree. Somebody please rescue this section of the article. Am I wrong? Must Wikipedia "weigh in" on the creationist, evolutionist fight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.180.2 ( talk) 21:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
To be frank, i would move to ENTIRELY remove the 'evolution' section: It cites very little in the way of reliable sources, mostly repeats the 'defence mechanism' information and is continually biased either to one theory or another whilst adding no meaningful information to the article. Abergabe ( talk) 15:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
Small thing - I'd change 'this has been refuted by' to 'this proposition is not accepted by'. 'Refute' is wrong here - 'rebut' would be better. To refute is to SHOW that something is unfounded, not merely to reject it. I fully accept the evolutionary explanation of the origin of the beetle's defences, but I don't think it can be said that the ID explanation has been shown by experiment to be invalid (even though it almost certainly is). Regards to all Notreallydavid ( talk) 07:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
The initial section, "Defense Mechanism", consists of two parts: an overview paragraph and a more detailed pair of paragraphs. The two parts are divided by a sentence at the end of the first paragraph: "A more detailed description of the process follows:". This seems awkward to me, but I'm not sure of how to improve it.
Perhaps the two parts need to be split into separate sections, the first describing the external manifestation of the defense mechanism, and the second describing the internal organs and chemicals that produce the observed results. -- Dan Griscom ( talk) 00:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is literally half the article about Creationism? It's inappropriate to waste so much of an article on this "debate". Keep that garbage in the Creationism vs Evolution or Intelligent Design article where it belongs. Don Dueck ( talk) 06:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I added 2 new sections about the beetle instead of the "controversy" surrounding it. the links I posted for the new sections have ,ore information that I can (or others can) transform into new sections I.E. Physical Description, Reproduction, ETC. I'm going to be busy for the weekend but could expand further on Monday. till then (and after) please others expand this article. if you remove the creationism and refutations this article is a stub and we should treat it as such. Donhoraldo ( talk) 06:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
This claim falls flat. The claimed fallacious article doesn't try to say this is how the defense mechanism evolved exactly step by step, but instead tries to counter the claim that there is no way for the mechanism to evolve. The article counter is this is A plausible evolutionary pathway. Further there is an argument presented that the gaps in the pathway make it religious, But as there are an infinite number of gaps between any 2 points and adding new data only demonstrates this the point is moot. After all by this argument 2 coming after 1 is a religious belief. Donhoraldo ( talk) 16:10, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Is there a reason that's even up? Cataloging both sides of the story is one thing, but the section as written is definitely espousing a POV. MudskipperMarkII ( talk) 20:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Intelligent design biochemist isn't Behe title, nor anyone's. However I can understand if some think the accurate statement that he is an intelligent design creationist is not needed. As such I've changed it to intelligent design proponent. As far as it goes if it is needed to have the irrelevant fact of him being a biochemist (as his work on ID doesn't actually involve biochemistry)I advise them to follow the article on Behe and put it in the format ,"American biochemist, author, and intelligent design advocate" or "biochemist, and intelligent design advocate" to save space. Donhoraldo ( talk) 21:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The source lists extant organisms with all necessary intermediate stages for the formation of the defense mechanism. It has been claimed that because this is not necessarily the evolutionary sequence provided in the article we should however use "possible", instead of "all necessary". Even if the beetle didn't evolve along the prescribed lines this does not change the fact that there are extant animals witch use the proposed stages. Donhoraldo ( talk) 02:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I quoted Behe earlyer and someone reverted it becase I suposedly mis represented BEHE by a direct quote. Well here is the conclusion Behe comes to at the end of the passage. "All we can conclude at this point is that Darwinian evoultion might have occured. If we could analyze the structural details of the beetle to the last protein and enzyme, and if we could agree with Dawkins. For now, We cannot tell wether the step-by-step accreetions of our hypothedical evolutionary stream are single-mutation "hops" or helicopter rides between distant buttes." http://books.google.com/books?id=7L8mkq4jG6EC&pg=PA35&lpg=PA35&dq=Can+the+other+components+be+added+to+the+bombardier's+system+in+such+a+way+that+the+function+continuously+improves?+It+would+seem+that+they+can.&source=bl&ots=ZAxoy1jrfT&sig=2d2IwQxHS-fage6ip6DuxUjCuIg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4J0sT-jPM8ru0gGqlKW8Cg&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Can%20the%20other%20components%20be%20added%20to%20the%20bombardier's%20system%20in%20such%20a%20way%20that%20the%20function%20continuously%20improves%3F%20It%20would%20seem%20that%20they%20can.&f=false(all transcriptional errors mine) In reading this it becomes clearly apparent that the previous version was in fact the one misrepresenting Behe. Donhoraldo ( talk) 03:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
I've significantly pared down the section about creationism as giving undue weight to a fringe view. If someone wants to add the beetle as an example to Irreducible_complexity#Stated_examples, then it could be linked to. But this article does not need to go into any more detail than to say a creationist argument exists and is rejected by mainstream science. GDallimore ( Talk) 13:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
GDallimore, you reverted my edit with the comment:
I have two problems with that. First, your complaint that the word "believe" has religious connotations is mistaken. Check the dictionary, if you doubt me.
Second, that "all the pre-bombardier beetle had to do" quote didn't come from a biologist, it came from a computer programmer. This section of the Bombardier beetle article is about what biologists believe (or, more accurately, what evolutionary biologists believe), and it cites page 214 of botanist Stan Rice's book, Encyclopedia of Evolution. But that citation supports neither the "have shown" claim nor the "easily" language.
The "have shown" claim is also contradicted by the (accurate) preceding phrase, "the true evolutionary path is still unknown..." If the evolutionary path is unknown, then it hasn't been shown.
If you don't like "biologists believe" then we could say "biologists hypothesize." For now, I'm going with "evolutionary biologists believe." If you prefer "hypothesize," please make that change, I will not object.
I see that the article also cites a 1997 usenet newsgroup essay, which obviously is not a reliable source, so I an deleting that. (I'm also making a couple of other minor improvements to the prose, which I'm sure you'll be okay with.) NCdave ( talk) 19:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Your line of reasoning is flawed. Isaak's article is not research into evolutionary biology so he does not need to be an established evolutionary biologist. His article is a tertiary source gathering together existing research on evolutionary biology to counter creationist claims. He is a recognised authority on countering creationist claims so the source is reliable for the purpose in which it is being used. Evolutionary biologists do not counter creationist claims because they have no need to bring themselves down to that level. GDallimore ( Talk) 11:37, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
NCdave, will you please try to rephrase that without the conspiracy theories, attacks on named living people, and general accusations of bad faith? No, science is not "just another POV", and no, Isaak's book is not "how to argue with creationists". And testifying at the Kitzmiller trial isn't evidence of POV, it's evidence that Padian's an expert on the subject. Calm down, and try discussing this based on facts and policy. Guettarda ( talk) 13:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Of the enzymes mentioned, catalases typically decompose hydrogen peroxide into water and oxygen, and peroxidases catalyze the reaction of hydrogen peroxide with various reducing agents depending on the particular peroxidase. In this case the reducing agent is hydroquinone, and the reaction product is para-quinone. Accordingly I have removed hydrogen from the list of reaction products. CharlesHBennett ( talk) 15:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
It would be nice if someone could come up with (or add) a scale to the pictures of the insect. I went looking and I couldn't find a picture with a scale that wasn't encumbered by someone else's rights. Norm Reitzel ( talk) 16:04, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
There is, in my opinion, still too much about Creationism in this article. It doesn't really belong in the introduction, and the entire "Evolution of the defense mechanism" section reads like passive aggressive spiting towards Creationism. Will try to trim it down a bit. Creationism should be mentioned as a small part of the Evolution section, not 10% of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilMiner ( talk • contribs) 13:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
In a large concentration of bombardier beetles, scientists speculate that the evolutionary significance of the aggregation behavior is related to predator avoidance. However, after an individual Brachinus sprays to exhaustion, they must wait a day and a half or 24-36 hours to recharge their chemical stores to fire again effectively (WM, pers. obs.). [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquilaa27 ( talk • contribs) 23:23, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
References
Please view the article at https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200616173227.htm. [1] The authors have some comments on irreducible complexity vs. evolution. LuckySpike ( talk) 02:56, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
References
The Bombardier Beetle entry offers a detailed examination of its taxonomy, anatomy, and defense mechanism, showcasing its remarkable ability to repel attackers with a chemical spray. However, to enhance comprehension of its biology and ecology, the page could delve into areas like social behavior, development phases, reproduction, and lifespan. Furthermore, exploring potential mutualistic interactions among beetles could shed light on its ecological significance within ecosystems. Addressing these aspects would enrich the reader's understanding of this unique species.
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02:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)