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Cbl62, I figured I would move this to the talk page to keep things in one noticeable place. Feel free to add any to-do items, etc. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Cbl62, I have been able to find links or replacement references for all refs except #4 and #55. Would you be able to try to track links down for these? Both have direct quotes and wouldn't be necessarily easy to remove or replace. We obviously don't necessarily need links for the citations to be acceptable, but I would really prefer to have them, if possible. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:58, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Editor
Gonzo fan2007 reverted
my edit with this edit summary: actively working on this article; deceptive edit summary as removing {{Open access}} isn't "cite repair"
. The initial purpose of my edit was
this broken cs1|2 citation template which put this article is in
Category:CS1 errors: invalid parameter value. Once here, I noticed that the cs1|2 templates that link to
Newspapers.com,
Google News Archive, and
Google books all had {{
open access}}
in |via=
.
Open access has a specific meaning (see the article for the nitty-gritty of that) but the tldr is: reuse of academic publications. In this article, {{open access}}
is misapplied to newspaper articles and to a book where there is no possibility of reuse. In cs1|2 citation templates, sources linked by a url parameter are presumed to be free-to-read unless otherwise noted (as this article's
New York Times citation). Since {{open access}}
is misapplied in the cs1|2 citation templates here, I removed these templates. So yeah, 'cite repair'.
As an aside, this short cite (sfn) does not link to a full-length citation. Needs cite repair.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 16:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
it's use is to identify the difference between linking to a clipping of a newspaper. There are, I have seen them, article titles linked to some 'thing' at Newspapers.com that lie behind the paywall. For those cases,
|url-access=subscription
is the appropriate parameter to use because it places the red lock icon directly adjacent to the article title; in cs1|2 we highlight the abnormal. You can, if you think it important, add |type=clipping
:
{{Cite news | first = Bill| last = Dow| title = Mann pioneer player in NFL: Part 2| date = January 11, 2002| access-date = November 22, 2019| url-status=live |newspaper = [[Detroit Free Press]]| page = 72| url = https://www.newspapers.com/clip/24262964/mann_end_was_one_of_1st_black_lions/| archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20191122153540/https://www.newspapers.com/clip/24262964/mann_end_was_one_of_1st_black_lions/| archive-date = November 22, 2019| via = [[Newspapers.com]] |type=clipping}}
|page=8D
instead of |page=72
?{{
open access}}
and {{
free access}}
templates (in relation to Newspapers.com in particular) that started at:
{{open access}}
is not appropriate here so I shall remove those templates.Jweiss11, per WP:BRD, I reverted your addition of {{ Football stats}} yesterday. You reverted my revert, so I returned it to the status quo and now am bringing it to the talk page to discuss. I don't want to edit war over an external link template. That said, I have been working on this article for a while and have it nominated with Cbl62 at WP:GAN. I feel like this is an editorial decision that can be made by those that have been improving the article and bringing it through an editorial process. There is no requirement that the template has to be used on every football page, and quite frankly I don't find it that useful, especially when PFR and NFL are linked throughout the article and in the infobox. I'm not going to go around actively removing the template from articles you edit, so mutually, I would prefer you leave it be when editors who are working on an article remove the template. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: MWright96 ( talk · contribs) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Going to review. MWright96 (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Those are the issues I found during my readthrough. Will put on hold for the time being. MWright96 (talk) 13:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay then, some thoughts:
Overall, the article is looking in pretty good shape and I think is within striking distance of FA status. (I mean, it'd be nice if there is some more biographical information but maybe there just isn't, in which case the article is big enough anyway) Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 22:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Bob Mann (American football) is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so. | |||||||||||||
This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on April 8, 2024. | |||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
October 6, 2010. | |||||||||||||
Current status: Featured article |
This article is rated FA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Cbl62, I figured I would move this to the talk page to keep things in one noticeable place. Feel free to add any to-do items, etc. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Cbl62, I have been able to find links or replacement references for all refs except #4 and #55. Would you be able to try to track links down for these? Both have direct quotes and wouldn't be necessarily easy to remove or replace. We obviously don't necessarily need links for the citations to be acceptable, but I would really prefer to have them, if possible. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:58, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Editor
Gonzo fan2007 reverted
my edit with this edit summary: actively working on this article; deceptive edit summary as removing {{Open access}} isn't "cite repair"
. The initial purpose of my edit was
this broken cs1|2 citation template which put this article is in
Category:CS1 errors: invalid parameter value. Once here, I noticed that the cs1|2 templates that link to
Newspapers.com,
Google News Archive, and
Google books all had {{
open access}}
in |via=
.
Open access has a specific meaning (see the article for the nitty-gritty of that) but the tldr is: reuse of academic publications. In this article, {{open access}}
is misapplied to newspaper articles and to a book where there is no possibility of reuse. In cs1|2 citation templates, sources linked by a url parameter are presumed to be free-to-read unless otherwise noted (as this article's
New York Times citation). Since {{open access}}
is misapplied in the cs1|2 citation templates here, I removed these templates. So yeah, 'cite repair'.
As an aside, this short cite (sfn) does not link to a full-length citation. Needs cite repair.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 16:16, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
it's use is to identify the difference between linking to a clipping of a newspaper. There are, I have seen them, article titles linked to some 'thing' at Newspapers.com that lie behind the paywall. For those cases,
|url-access=subscription
is the appropriate parameter to use because it places the red lock icon directly adjacent to the article title; in cs1|2 we highlight the abnormal. You can, if you think it important, add |type=clipping
:
{{Cite news | first = Bill| last = Dow| title = Mann pioneer player in NFL: Part 2| date = January 11, 2002| access-date = November 22, 2019| url-status=live |newspaper = [[Detroit Free Press]]| page = 72| url = https://www.newspapers.com/clip/24262964/mann_end_was_one_of_1st_black_lions/| archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20191122153540/https://www.newspapers.com/clip/24262964/mann_end_was_one_of_1st_black_lions/| archive-date = November 22, 2019| via = [[Newspapers.com]] |type=clipping}}
|page=8D
instead of |page=72
?{{
open access}}
and {{
free access}}
templates (in relation to Newspapers.com in particular) that started at:
{{open access}}
is not appropriate here so I shall remove those templates.Jweiss11, per WP:BRD, I reverted your addition of {{ Football stats}} yesterday. You reverted my revert, so I returned it to the status quo and now am bringing it to the talk page to discuss. I don't want to edit war over an external link template. That said, I have been working on this article for a while and have it nominated with Cbl62 at WP:GAN. I feel like this is an editorial decision that can be made by those that have been improving the article and bringing it through an editorial process. There is no requirement that the template has to be used on every football page, and quite frankly I don't find it that useful, especially when PFR and NFL are linked throughout the article and in the infobox. I'm not going to go around actively removing the template from articles you edit, so mutually, I would prefer you leave it be when editors who are working on an article remove the template. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
GA toolbox |
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Reviewing |
Reviewer: MWright96 ( talk · contribs) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Going to review. MWright96 (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Those are the issues I found during my readthrough. Will put on hold for the time being. MWright96 (talk) 13:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Okay then, some thoughts:
Overall, the article is looking in pretty good shape and I think is within striking distance of FA status. (I mean, it'd be nice if there is some more biographical information but maybe there just isn't, in which case the article is big enough anyway) Cas Liber ( talk · contribs) 22:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)